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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2625 on: April 07, 2015, 05:42:31 am »
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running will interfere with lifting while you adapt. wouldn't worry about the weak HPC and squats (not that you were).

True, that is what i thought too. But until you hear it from someone else it is more an excuse than a reasoning, so nice to hear it! :D

In other news, i am down with a cold since Sunday. No fever, but huge sneezing and coughing and overall weakness. I would be ok with it and see it as a forced deload, but the upcoming weekend it is Easter here, so i get 4 more 'obligatory' off days. So i will try to train through it today that i feel a tiny bit better. Might overdose on caffeine to make up for the weakness.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2626 on: April 07, 2015, 04:15:09 pm »
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7 April 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~86,5kg , stuffed with food
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : sick(cold)

[HANG POWER CLEAN QUEST]+ [LANCE REST-PAUSE UPPER] ROUTINE

Workout #13 , ( Week #5 )

HANG POWER CLEAN:
5@20kg
5@30kg
3@40kg
2@50kg
0@60kg
0@60kg
3@50kg
3@50kg
3@50kg
-Not sure if physically or mentally defeated from 60kg. Absolutely sure it is not going up.
50kg triples are getting better though.

HALF SQUAT:
5@50kg ( +10 kg )
5@70kg ( +10 kg )
5@90kg ( +10 kg )
5@110kg ( +10 kg )
5@120kg ( +10 kg )
-Gaining fast as expected. Better speed in all sets despite the 10kg increase.

BENCH PRESS:
10@60kg
8@60kg ( +1 rep )
6@60kg ( +1 rep )
Total = 24 reps , ( +2 reps )
-Nice.

DEAD HANG PULLUPS:
8@BW
6@BW
5@BW
Total = 19 reps
-Same reps with last time. Better control.

STANDING CALF RAISE:
30@BW+50kg
28@BW+50kg ( -2 reps ) 
25@BW+50kg
-Regressed 2 reps here.

Not bad for sick.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2627 on: April 09, 2015, 05:46:02 am »
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8 April 2015

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : quads, calves, lats, chest
Injuries/aches : none

Was too cold and windy outside and i am still recovering from that cold so I decided to skip the planned sprints and jumps session.
Did this instead:

DYNAMIC WARMUP

BILATERAL LINE HOPS:
4x40 ( 2x40 left-righ / 2x40 front-back )

MR-TUCK JUMPS:
4x10

JUMP SQUAT:
3x5@20kg

12'' DEPTH JUMPS:
4x5

BICEP DB CURL:
4x15@10kg each hand

TRICEP DB KICK-BACK:
4x10@10kg

Ate maintenance.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2628 on: April 09, 2015, 03:39:33 pm »
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9 April 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~85,5kg
Soreness : stiff and sore quads, sore chest, lats
Injuries/aches : none

[HANG POWER CLEAN QUEST]+ [LANCE REST-PAUSE UPPER] ROUTINE

Workout #14 ( Week #5 )

HANG POWER CLEAN
5@20kg
5@30kg
3@40kg
2@50kg
1@60kg
0@65kg
0@65kg
-Finally got back to 60. Not even close to 65 though.

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
5@20kg
5@40kg
5@60kg
3@80kg
3@90kg
3@100kg
10@70kg
15@60kg
-Didn't do MSEM&MEBM, wanted to get some more volume in because of the short holidays ahead.
Quads were too tired from half squats 48hrs ago, even light weights made them hurt. Happy with the result at that state.

BB OHP:
12@37,5kg ( +2 reps )
8@37,5kg
6@37,5kg ( +1 rep )
Total = 26 reps ( +3 reps )
-Got my 25 reps target finally, very nice!

BENT OVER DB ROW:
10 each hand @ 36kg ( +1 rep )
10 each hand @ 36kg ( +2 reps )
8 each hand @ 36kg ( +1 rep )
Total =  28 reps ( +4 reps )
-Good progress.

SEATED PAUSED CALF RAISE:
15@50kg ( +5 kg )
15@50kg ( +5 kg )
15@50kg ( +5 kg )
-Constant progress here, very nice.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2015, 11:06:26 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2629 on: April 13, 2015, 03:53:02 pm »
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So the Greek Easter monstrosity is over.
Went and shot hoops for 45 minutes today trying to get some alcohol and cigar smoke out of my system.
Lol, that was hilarious. It was very challenging to even dribble at a medium speed, no chance of sprinting and jumping.
Stayed at it though, got a good blood flow in. Lets see what happens at gym tomorrow.

Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2630 on: April 15, 2015, 05:51:42 am »
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14 April 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~85,25kg , niceeee
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

[HANG POWER CLEAN QUEST]+ [LANCE REST-PAUSE UPPER] ROUTINE

Workout #15 , ( Week #6 )

HANG POWER CLEAN:
5@20kg
5@30kg
3@40kg
3@45kg
3@45kg
3@45kg
3@45kg
-Kept it light today. Have been neglecting the '5x3 comfortably not failing reps' day.
This session is very useful, can work on mechanics while still being challenged. Went great.

HALF SQUAT:
5@50kg
5@70kg
5@90kg
5@110kg
5@125kg ( +5 kg )
-Nice. Bar is getting heavy though, 130kg will be too tough.

BENCH PRESS:
10@60kg
8@60kg
6@60kg
Total = 24 reps
-Same reps with last time but feeling weaker.

DEAD HANG PULLUPS:
8@BW
6@BW
5@BW
Total = 19 reps
-Same reps with last time but feeling weaker here too.

STANDING CALF RAISE:
30@BW+50kg
30@BW+50kg ( +2 reps ) 
26@BW+50kg ( +1 rep )
-Ahhhh, almost there!
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2631 on: April 15, 2015, 07:20:29 pm »
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15 April 2015

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : quads, calves, chest
Injuries/aches : none

Another week with one less working ( open gym ) day, so another week with one runs&jumps and one gym day merged into this:

DYNAMIC WARMUP

BILATERAL LINE HOPS:
4x40 ( 2x40 left-righ / 2x40 front-back )
-Kinda slow.

MR-TUCK JUMPS:
4x10
-Quads feeling too stiff when jumping.

JUMP SQUAT:
3x5@20kg
-Nice.

12'' DEPTH JUMPS:
4x5
-Very good, much improved overall compared to last week.

BICEP DB CURL:
15@10kg each hand
12@10kg each hand ( -3 reps )
11@10kg each hand ( -4 reps )
10@10kg each hand ( -5 reps )
-Weaker than last week.

TRICEP DB KICK-BACK:
12 each hand@10kg ( +2 reps )
12 each hand@10kg ( +2 reps )
12 each hand@10kg ( +2 reps )
12 each hand@10kg ( +2 reps )
-Stronger than last week.

DB UPRIGHT ROW:
12@10kg each hand
12@10kg each hand
12@10kg each hand
12@10kg each hand
-Very nice.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2632 on: April 16, 2015, 02:50:17 pm »
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16 April 2015

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

1,5 hours full court basketball.
Bad endurance. Very good body-contact strength. Good vert, got a few of those in-game jumps that feel really high, haven't had them for a long time. I also see i create some block-fear intimidation, this has also not happened for a long time. Need more inches though.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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« Reply #2633 on: April 18, 2015, 11:19:05 am »
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18 April 2015

Bodyweight@session : 84,5kg , first time under 85kg in 2015  :wowthatwasnutswtf:
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

[HANG POWER CLEAN QUEST]+ [LANCE REST-PAUSE UPPER] ROUTINE

Workout #16 ( Week #6 )

HANG POWER CLEAN
5@20kg
5@30kg
3@40kg
2@50kg
1@60kg
0@65kg
0@65kg
0@65kg
0@60kg
2@55kg
3@50kg
-60 went up nice. 65 wouldn't.

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
MSEM:
1@90kg
1@95kg
1@100kg
1@100kg
1@100kg
1@100kg
-Wanted to do 1 or 2 105 but 100kg were heavier than i wanted so stayed there.
MEBM:
20@65kg
-Brutal. Struggle is mostly mental after rep 12.

BB OHP:
9@40kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -3 reps )
6@40kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -2 reps )
5 @40kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
Total = 20 reps ( -6 reps )
-Expected drop from weight-up, wanted a couple of reps more.

BENT OVER DB ROW:
10 each hand @ 36kg
10 each hand @ 36kg
9 each hand @ 36kg ( +1 rep )
Total =  29 reps ( +1 rep )
-One more rep and then it is the 40s.

SEATED PAUSED CALF RAISE:
15@55kg ( +5 kg )
15@55kg ( +5 kg )
15@55kg ( +5 kg )
-Got all reps but i sense i lost a bit of ROM so will redo this weight.

Diet-pan looks like it is going great. On a slow but steady weight loss despite force-feeding over 3000kcals each and every gym day.
Looks like i have maintained, if not added, all muscle mass despite the weight loss. Lifts are on a linear progress, I look bigger AND leaner.
A successful re-composition? Now that would be awesome. Not celebrating yet, patience, let's see how it goes.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2634 on: April 19, 2015, 08:15:51 pm »
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Great job on the progress. How low are you going on rest days?
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« Reply #2635 on: April 20, 2015, 04:07:11 am »
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Thanks. I go around 500-700 under TDEE. That includes the cardio days too. So at bball day that TDEE comes up to 2800-2900, i will eat ~2200. On a total rest day TDEE will be around 2200 so i eat 1500-1700.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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« Reply #2636 on: April 20, 2015, 11:02:56 pm »
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Nice. I love the idea of a recomp but have never done it successfully myself.

Does that mean though that the 3,000 days are basically at a maintenance level?
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« Reply #2637 on: April 21, 2015, 04:26:41 am »
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Nope, on gym days i try to go ~500 above maintenance. My BMR is around 1900, my TDEE in a normal day is around 2200 , so my TDEE at a day of weight lifting is around 2500. So i eat around 3000. If TDEE rises more, so do the kcals, e.g. this Saturday that i trained more and also did other things throughout the day, my TDEE came up to 3000 so i ate 4000 ( was planning 3500 but got carried away, Saturday night pizza, yay! :D ). I also try to concentrate kcals and carbs post-training at gym days. At times it gets a bit hard/annoying to force-feed a 2K clean(ish) dinner but you get used to it.

In other news, i felt kinda shity yesterday, like semi-sick. No fever or other symptoms but this overall numbness and weakness. So i didn't train. And that makes it a third week in a row that the 'normal' plan has to be tweaked. FML!
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2638 on: April 22, 2015, 01:14:29 am »
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Nope, on gym days i try to go ~500 above maintenance. My BMR is around 1900, my TDEE in a normal day is around 2200 , so my TDEE at a day of weight lifting is around 2500. So i eat around 3000. If TDEE rises more, so do the kcals, e.g. this Saturday that i trained more and also did other things throughout the day, my TDEE came up to 3000 so i ate 4000 ( was planning 3500 but got carried away, Saturday night pizza, yay! :D ). I also try to concentrate kcals and carbs post-training at gym days. At times it gets a bit hard/annoying to force-feed a 2K clean(ish) dinner but you get used to it.

Very cool. In my quest to get my body healthy again, and drop some bf in the process, I am going back towards more carb backloading without fear of it ruining my strength levels. Will be interesting to see if I can get some similar results to you. Fingers crossed.

I'm a slow eater though and it can take me 60 to 90 mins to get 2,000 cals PWO in.
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2639 on: April 22, 2015, 03:52:26 am »
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Hah, i am the exact opposite, I am a manic eater. Dunno about results, it is not that i made a mouth dropping recomp. Still too early. But yes, from what i've done so far ( bulks and cuts ) this one looks like the best deal, very happy with it so far. Curious to see how it continues. Fingers crossed here too.



21 April 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~85,25kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

[HANG POWER CLEAN QUEST]+ [LANCE REST-PAUSE UPPER] ROUTINE

Workout #17 , ( Week #7 )

HANG POWER CLEAN:
5@20kg
5@30kg
3@40kg
3@45kg
3@45kg
3@45kg
3@45kg
-Technique day. Very nice.

HALF SQUAT:
5@50kg
5@70kg
5@90kg
5@110kg
5@125kg
-Stayed at the same loads to get a better 'feel' of 125. It is still heavy.

BENCH PRESS:
8@60kg ( -2 reps )
7@60kg ( -1 rep )
6@60kg
Total = 21 reps ( -3 reps )
-Widened my grip a bit. I grip the bar with mid-palm at those smooth rings. I'd say it is a medium grip. I felt like it is too narrow for my long ass arms, involves too much of my (very strong ) triceps and takes away results from my ( very weak ) chest. So moved each hand ~3 inches out.
It sure felt more 'chest' this way, but i am not sure if my logic is valid. I am searching some info and it seems that the wider you go the less tricep you involve indeed.
Dunno, any thoughts/knowledge on that? Should i stay wide, or just go with the width that makes me lift the most ( medium )?

DEAD HANG PULLUPS:
8@BW
6@BW
5@BW
Total = 19 reps
-Same reps with last time again. Stalled.

STANDING CALF RAISE:
30@BW+50kg
30@BW+50kg
28@BW+50kg ( +2 reps ) 
-Nice.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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