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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2235 on: July 04, 2014, 06:01:45 am »
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4 July 2014

Body composition measurements:

Net morning weight : 84,4kg / 186lbs
Waist : 87,5cm / 34,44''

Online bodyfat estimation : 15.6%
BI scale bodyfat estimation : 15.6%
AVERAGE bodyfat estimation : 15.6%

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Net morning weight : 84,5kg / 186.3lbs
Waist : 88,25cm / 34,75''

Online bodyfat estimation : 16.4%
BI scale bodyfat estimation : 15.7%
AVERAGE bodyfat estimation : 16.05%

Awesomeness!!!  :wowthatwasnutswtf:
Couple of milestones: broke under 88cm waist, broke under 16% both in the web-based and average measurement.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2236 on: July 04, 2014, 06:36:08 am »
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Right. Now time for a 75 kg bodyweight :D
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2237 on: July 04, 2014, 07:10:22 pm »
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Lol, easy tiger!
I generally prefer to be heavier, my ideal state would be a relatively lean 90kg.
Will keep cutting for now anyway, see what happens 2-3 kg lower from here, then we may have a long discussion about where to go... I have been reading a lot and thinking about it but it is not the time yet.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2238 on: July 05, 2014, 05:59:15 am »
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Fine, you're excused for 1 kg.

76.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2239 on: July 05, 2014, 07:18:05 am »
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I have good news for you. Yesterday's measurements were after a heavy carb dinner.
Today morning, after a 1500kcal day and a carb-less dinner, measurements were:

Net morning weight : 83,5kg / 184lbs
Waist : 87cm / 34,25''

Online bodyfat estimation : 15.6%
BI scale bodyfat estimation : 15.4%
AVERAGE bodyfat estimation : 15.5%

I guess the truth is in the middle, 84kg / 15,55%

:goodjobbro: anyway...
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2240 on: July 05, 2014, 08:27:36 am »
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I've been having similar progress, going from 88.3 to 87.9 kg in a month!

#PROGRESS
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2241 on: July 05, 2014, 10:21:35 am »
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5 July 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~84.5kg , season low
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

Kelly Baggett's simple periodization routine

PHASE IV , Peak

Workout #6

Gym switched to summer schedule so by the time i got there it was closed ,  :ffffffuuuuuu:

9'' DEPTH JUMPS:
2x10
-Incredible, FA, GCT, RFD, height, all great! Arguably my best DJs ever.

COMPLEX :
C1 : HALF SQUAT:
C1 : HALF PISTOL SQUAT:
5@BW + 25 kg
5@BW + 25 kg
-That is about 97,5kg load on each leg, which equals to a 122,5kg squat.
That is how it felt too, judging from the last weeks 120 to 130 kg half squat progression
Math comes true, with some fluctuation of course.

C2: JUMP SQUAT:
2x5@20kg
-Very good but not awesome. Potentiation still there on the legs but of course that '20 kg is so light' feeling was gone.

HORIZONTAL LEG PRESS CALVES 'RAISES':
PAUSED SINGLE LEG CALVES RAISES:
13 each leg @ BW + 15kg
13 each leg @ BW + 15kg
13 each leg @ BW + 15kg
-That was 3*F. A little stronger than 495lbs smith. (BW+15)*2 = 200kg/440lbs, yup, math comes true again.

CHINUPS:
BENT OVER DB ROWS:
12 each hand @ 20kg
12 each hand @ 20kg
12 each hand @ 20kg

DIPS:
CHEST DB FLY:
12 @ 10kg each hand
12 @ 10kg each hand
12 @ 10kg each hand
« Last Edit: July 05, 2014, 10:27:14 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2242 on: July 06, 2014, 03:50:48 pm »
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6 July 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~84,75kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches :  none

1,6km ( 1 mile ) STEADY PACE JOGGING RUNNING:
Total time = 8 minutes 35 seconds ( -40 seconds )  :personal-record:  :personal-record:  :personal-record:
Average speed = 11,18 km/h ( +0.85kmh ) , broke the 11 km/h barrier
Pace  = 5 minutes 21 seconds per km ( -26 seconds per km )
-Huge PR!!! But i can't call it jogging anymore, it was running, not max possible pace but at least 80%.
Delighted with 8:35, that is an amazing time for my unfit old fat ass.

5 minutes rest

100m TEMPO RUNS ( 1 minute rest between runs ):
5x100m@60% + 1x100m@80%
-Times for 60% : 20-21 seconds.
-Time for 80% : 17:50
Wanted to go 50% but i couldn't, my legs denied, i could ether jog or go 60%. Weird.

Wanted to do another set of tempos but legs felt tired so called it a day because i want to do ME jumps tomorrow.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2014, 03:58:39 pm by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2243 on: July 07, 2014, 03:00:55 pm »
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7 July 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~84,75kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches :  none

ME RIM JUMPS:
SVJ : max = 26''
Dropstep : max = 30''
1-step-DLRVJ : max = 31'' , ties season best!
2-steps-DLRVJ : max = 31'' , ties season best!
Full runup DLRVJs : max = 31'' , ties season best!

Mixed emotions. Getting season best heights but not PRing. Not gonna happen without new shoes, my Kobes are totally worn out, the traction is terrible and i think the zoom bags blew off too. Can't jump good on my running shoes either, i tried it, they are frees and the too much flex ruins my mechanics. Pity, i would have PRed for sure today, 30'' was all voluntary, getting it easy off 1 step.
New trainers are on the way ( adidas supernova glide 6 boost ) , i got the most 'firm' boost shoe out there, lets see how that overhyped TPU magic foam will work.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2014, 03:03:30 pm by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2244 on: July 07, 2014, 06:09:57 pm »
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Try one leg jumps in your frees and see what you get.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2245 on: July 07, 2014, 07:11:43 pm »
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Try one leg jumps in your frees and see what you get.

I always do SLRVJs too in my jump sessions this year, just don't log them. They are steady at around 27''.
In frees it is the opposite of DLRVJs, the extra flex makes them feel more natural and fluid and with a more powerful toe off. Still 27'' though.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2246 on: July 09, 2014, 07:10:30 am »
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8 July 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~84.75kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

Kelly Baggett's simple periodization routine

PHASE IV ( Peak )

Workout #7

9'' DEPTH JUMPS:
2x10
-Awesome.

COMPLEX :
C1 : HALF SQUAT:
5@130kg
5@130kg
-Easier than last time. Kinda fast actually, awesome!

C2: JUMP SQUAT:
2x5@20kg
-Awesome.

PAUSED STANDING CALVES RAISES MACHINE:
18@75kg
17@75kg
15@75kg
-Same reps with last time. Did not do 80kg by mistake, goal is 3x15 here so was above it already.

BENCH PRESS:
4@72,5kg , ties 4RM  :personal-record:
9@62,5kg ( +1 rep )
14@52,5kg ( +1 rep )
-Some progress so nice.

PULLUPS:
8@BW + 5kg ( -2 reps ) , ( +5kg ):personal-record:
8@BW + 5kg ( +5kg ):personal-record:
8@BW  ( +1rep )
-PRs are because it is my first time ever doing them weighted.

4th week of peaking. Kinda losing its meaning. Also bored of it. Half squats get better and better but  i don't know, i feel the crave to do deep ones too.
New shoes are supposed to arrive this week so i will wait to have a couple of 'peaked' ME jump sessions in them and then end it.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2247 on: July 10, 2014, 05:13:55 am »
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9 July 2014

Bodyweight@session : forgot to check
Soreness : Chest, lats, calves sore. quads, glutes, abductors, hamstrings feeling something between sore and too stiff. 130kg speed halfs wrecked me, lol
Injuries/aches :  none

1km jogging

Dynamic warmup

TEMPO RUNS:
5x80m , building up intensity from 50 to 80%.
-Really bad. Feeling too stiff, like there was no energy transfer through my legs.

5 minutes rest

Then i wanted to do this:
1) 300m @ 100%

2) Some challenging lactate run
- could be 2x3x200 - 2 mins between the reps (200, 2min, 200, 2min, 200) & 10 mins between sets - start off trying to hit 30,30,30 & 30,30,28 and get better each week

300m@10% : 54 seconds
-Heh, not that bad. It is 3x100m@17s, so given my 15.5s PR, this was pretty good.

10 minutes rest

200m@100% : 34 seconds ( actually big  :personal-record:, i was at 38 seconds this April )
2 minutes rest
200m@100% : 36 seconds ( also  :personal-record: compared to April )
2 minutes rest
200m@100% : DNF ( gave up at around 150m, i just couldn't run anymore, i would have to jog )

Decided to call it a day and not try a second set given i could not even complete the first one.

5 minutes rest.

1km cooldown jog.

That was interesting. I am wasting my time on this 80x50 gravel football field though, the times I post are useless:
As discussed again here, those are not sprints, i have to decelerate much to take the 90 degree turns. Now what good is a 300m sprint if i have to do 4 such cuts? That's what i thought.
Still, i like the concept of the longer sprints, even if they are 'sprints'. Gotta get to the damn track and see how much my real splits deviate from those.

In other news, my boost shoes just arrived and they are sexyyyyyyy, can't wait to run&jump in them  :wowthatwasnutswtf:
« Last Edit: July 10, 2014, 05:19:21 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2248 on: July 10, 2014, 06:04:31 am »
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Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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« Reply #2249 on: July 10, 2014, 03:15:51 pm »
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^^^
Yes, that is the shoe, supernova glide 6. I chose this of all available boosts because according to the reviews it has the most 'firm' feeling of them. It has a thin layer of 'harder' EVA foam between the boost foam and the foot so it feels less mushy and deforms less, supposedly.

10 July 2014

Bodyweight@session : forgot to check
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches :  none

1km RUN: 5 minutes, averge speed = 12kmh , :personal-record:
Previous PR was 5minutes 21 seconds / 11,18kmh from a mile run.
That was not even close to max, i was saving for the sprints.

5 minutes rest

SPRINTS:

80m@100% : 11:50 ,  :personal-record: , previous was 11:90,

3 minutes rest

80m@100% : 11:30 ,  :personal-record: , previous was the above.

5 minutes rest

100m@100% : 15:30 ,  :personal-record: , previous was 15:50

5 minutes rest

100m@100% : 14:90 ,  :personal-record:  :personal-record:  :personal-record: , previous was the above.

:almostascoolasnyancat: , placebo or not i was flying! :D

Then i tried some jumps but only the 9'6'' rim was free and that ruined my mechanics. Can't jump well there, I can't judge the correct spot to plant, I can't time my highest touch well etc. Also i can't know what heights i got without cam, from where i felt hitting the rim it must have been 3'' below wrist so around 30''. We will have to wait for 10' jumps to know.
« Last Edit: July 10, 2014, 03:18:55 pm by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?