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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1935 on: December 02, 2013, 04:35:10 pm »
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funny, what i perceive as parallel or slightly below parallel turns out to be well below parallel on video.
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1936 on: December 02, 2013, 05:41:50 pm »
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funny, what i perceive as parallel or slightly below parallel turns out to be well below parallel on video.

Me too
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1937 on: December 03, 2013, 04:50:42 am »
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Interesting, my recent experiences are the same lately, i occasionaly feel i lost depth but video proves me wrong. But in the past it was the opposite, film always proved my depth to be higher than i thought. Maybe it has to do with the fact that you both were always deep squatters, while my style was ramp up the weight and do each set as deep as possible, so my constantly incosistent depth was ruining my perception? And now that i am doing full squats only for a long time it got fixed? Or maybe it has to do with form. I allowed much more lean in the past, so as the bar got heavier  i guess i leaned instead of sitting deeper, so same bar height, different hips height. A little bit of both i guess. Heh, silly/useless analysis of the day...
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1938 on: December 03, 2013, 07:22:57 am »
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For me, what tricks me in thinking that I'm not going deep enough is I feel flexiblity/mobility issues in my body and the lack of "cursive" movement, and THAT makes me think that I don't get deep enough. I feel like I load differently etc so I'm losing my depth awareness if you will.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1939 on: December 04, 2013, 03:56:34 pm »
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4 December 2013

Bodyweight@session : ~92kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches :  none

5/3/1 beginner template
Wave 3 :: Week 1 :: Day 2

ROMANIAN DEADLIFT ( 5/3/1 ):
5@70kg
5@80kg
10@92,5kg , all time predicted 1RM  :personal-record: ( 123kg )
-Awesome!

STANDING OVERHEAD PRESS ( 5/3/1 ):
5@32,5kg
5@37,5kg
8@42,5kg
-Wanted a 9th for a PR here too but failed it, same reps with last wave's 42,5kg.  :-[

BICEPS EZ BAR CURL:
12@35,5kg
12@35,5kg
12@35,5kg
-Got my 3x12 finally. Damn hard!

TRICEPS CABLE PUSHDOWN:
12@35kg
12@35kg
12@35kg
-Same comment with biceps.

I also did:
-8 DB lunges each leg , 12kg dbs
-8 BB BSS each leg , empty bar ( 20kg )
-8 BB lunges each leg , empty bar ( 20kg )
Wanted to see what feels better to start doing, i will go with BB lunges.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1940 on: December 05, 2013, 01:51:58 pm »
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5 December 2013

Bodyweight@session : n/a
Soreness : glutes 4/5, WTF, 20-30kg lunges destroyed them!
Injuries/aches :  none

1,5 hour of full court basketball.
Endurance : Felt a little worse than the previous times, so a little worse than awful!  :uhhhfacepalm:
Jumps : Got a 10'1'' SVJ ( 26'' ) and a 10'5'' 2-steps RVJ ( 30'' ). Fair.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1941 on: December 07, 2013, 09:32:33 am »
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7 December 2013

Bodyweight@session : 92kg
Soreness : glutes still a little sore
Injuries/aches :  none

5/3/1 beginner template
Wave 3 :: Week 1 :: Day 3

BENCH ( 5/3/1 ):
5@50kg
5@57,5kg
9@65kg , predicted 1RM :personal-record:
-Predicted 1RM PR by 0,2kg, 83,9kg, previous was last year's 83,7kg ( 8@67,5kg ). I'll take it.

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT ( Light day ):
5@55kg
5@65kg
5@75kg
-Easy.

HALF SQUATS:
3@85kg
3@95kg
3@105kg
-Strong but again harder than i thought. Filmed them, they are harder because i go much lower than i used to. Will upload later.

CHINUPS:
9@BW+5kg ( +1 rep ) ,  predicted 1RM :personal-record:
7@BW+5kg
6@BW+5kg
-Same reps with last week but 0,5kg heavier, so new 1RM PR is 125kg vs 124,5kg. I'll take that too.

LANCE CALVE RAISES ( DL concentric, slow SL eccentric ):
10 each leg@35kg
10 each leg@35kg
10 each leg@35kg
-Meh, thought i did 30kg last time, that's why they felt easy.

ABS COASTER MACHINE:
20@BW+10kg front  ( +5 reps )
20@BW+10kg left ( +5 reps )
20@BW+10kg right ( +5 reps )
-Stayed at same load to up the volume, very strong.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1942 on: December 11, 2013, 05:47:51 am »
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10 December 2013

Bodyweight@session : ~91,75kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches :  none

5/3/1 beginner template
Wave 3 :: Week 2 :: Day 1

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT ( 5/3/1 day ):
3@70kg
3@80kg
7@90kg
-Great! Predicted 1RM a tiny bit lower than last week's 9@85kg, but 7@90kg is a 7RM PR, also in last wave's 90kg maxout i could do 5.

BENCH PRESS ( Light day ):
5@42,5kg
5@50kg
5@57,5kg
-Paused. Easy. Strong.

STANDING SHOULDERS DB LATERAL RAISES.
12@8kg each hand
12@8kg each hand
12@8kg each hand
-Those are starting to feel less challenging.

SEATED CHEST SUPPORTED ROW MACHINE:
10@75kg
10@75kg ( +1 rep )
9@75kg ( +1 rep )
-Hard but strong.

PAUSED STANDING CALVE RAISES MACHINE:
20@60kg
18@60kg ( +1 rep )
16@60kg ( +1 rep )
-This is so hard to progress because of the pauses.

WEIGHTED CRUNCHES MACHINE:
Skipped, run out of time.
« Last Edit: December 11, 2013, 06:23:36 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1943 on: December 12, 2013, 06:28:39 am »
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11 December 2013

Bodyweight@session : ~91,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches :  none

5/3/1 beginner template
Wave 3 :: Week 2 :: Day 2

ROMANIAN DEADLIFT ( 5/3/1 ):
3@75kg
3@85kg
9@97,5kg , all time predicted 1RM  :personal-record: ( ~126kg )
-Awesome! Previous predicted 1RM PR was ~123kg ( 10@92,5kg ).

STANDING OVERHEAD PRESS ( 5/3/1 ):
3@35kg
3@40kg
8@45kg , all time predicted 1RM  :personal-record: ( ~56kg )
-Awesome! Previous predicted 1RM PR was ~53kg( 10@40kg ).

BARBELL LUNGES:
8 each leg@20kg
8 each leg@30kg
8 each leg@40kg
-Feels like the limiting factor here ( for now, 2nd session doing them ) is getting used to the movement.

BICEPS EZ BAR CURL:
12@34,5kg
12@34,5kg
12@34,5kg
-Felt a bit harder than last week.

TRICEPS CABLE PUSHDOWN:
12@35kg
12@35kg
12@35kg
-Felt a bit harder than last week too.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1944 on: December 12, 2013, 09:33:40 am »
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progress progress progress progress
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1945 on: December 12, 2013, 01:37:47 pm »
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^Thanks, i am having steady progress indeed. But i was coming from ~4 months of no lifting and i gained about 10kgs since i re-started, so it was rather expected. Plus my numbers are still weak. But i am pushing all time PRs on every lift currently so happy with that.

12 December 2013

Bodyweight@session : n/a
Soreness : glutes and VMOs.
Injuries/aches :  none

1,5 hour of full court basketball.
Endurance : Felt a little improved this time finally. However VMOs and glutes gave out on me after a while, not recovered from lifting both yesterday and the day before.
Jumps : Only 1 rim jump at the end ( exhausted ), got an embarrassing 10'2'' dropstep ( 27'' ).  :uhhhfacepalm:
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1946 on: December 14, 2013, 08:51:08 am »
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14 December 2013

Bodyweight@session : ~91,5kg
Soreness : none.
Injuries/aches : none.

5/3/1 beginner template
Wave 3 :: Week 2 :: Day 3

BENCH ( 5/3/1 ):
3@52,5kg
3@60kg
8@67,5kg
-I had to do 9 reps to beat last week's 9@65kg PR since 8@67,5 gives slightly lower 1RM. Couldn't, 8th rep was too hard.
Still good though. Also being 0,5 kg lighter than last week gives a silly all time predicted 1RM/BW  :personal-record:

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT ( Light day ):
5@55kg
5@65kg
5@75kg
-Easy, 55 are actually REA squats, 65 and 75 speed squats.

HALF SQUATS:
3@90kg ( +5 kg )
3@100kg ( +5 kg )
3@110kg ( +5 kg )
-Tried to go a bit higher but not too high. Mechanics still off. Stronger although heavier loads though.

CHINUPS:
10@BW+5kg ( +1 rep ) ,  predicted 1RM :personal-record:
8@BW+5kg ( +1 rep )
6@BW+5kg
-10@BW+5kg is the most ive ever done but i was 3kg lighter back then.
-24 total reps ties the most I've done @BW+5kg and i was also 3kg lighter back then, so double  :personal-record:

LANCE CALVE RAISES ( DL concentric, slow SL eccentric ):
10 each leg@40kg ( +5 kg )
10 each leg@40kg ( +5 kg )
10 each leg@40kg ( +5 kg )
-Very strong despite load increase.

ABS COASTER MACHINE:
20@BW+12,5kg front  ( +2,5 kg )
20@BW+12,5kg left ( +2,5 kg )
20@BW+12,5kg right ( +2,5 kg )
-Reps 15 to 20 were damn hard. Still very strong.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1947 on: December 14, 2013, 07:03:59 pm »
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So this is my depth at half squats the previous week:



I suppose this is too deep, i remember Lance saying that the ideal depth is a little lower than your RVJ plant depth.
So this week ( today ) i did them like this:



What do you guys think? Is this too high? Which depth should i use?
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1948 on: December 14, 2013, 09:09:08 pm »
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To me, the bottom ones look better and even that is "too low" for my liking. I guess I understand by the term "half squat" a "quarter squat".
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1949 on: December 15, 2013, 01:42:16 am »
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Hey vag, are these the half squats that you suggested me to do? What depth do you think I should do for most carryover into vertical?