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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1365 on: April 12, 2012, 04:02:20 pm »
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^Dafuq , who negged a random bbal practice day and why?


2012 WINTER WORKOUTS COUNTER/REMINDER:
CURRENT WEEK COUNT   : 14
Lower body sessions     : 28
ME jumping sessions     : 2
Stretching sessions      : 7
Core sessions               : 0
Plyos sessions              : 0
Upper body sessions    : 17
Endurance sessions      : 13


12 April 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~193
Injuries/aches : none
Soreness : slight quads soreness

ME lower workout + Lance method upper

JUMP SNATCHES:
3@66 ( +11 lbs )
3@77 ( +11 lbs )
3@88 ( +11 lbs )
3@99 ( +11 lbs )
3@99 ( same )
-Very good , form @99 was good this time , snatching and not pressing.

SQUATS:
5@187 lbs ( same ) , full
5@220 lbs ( same ) , full
5@242 lbs ( same ) , just above parallel
5@264 lbs ( same )  , half
5@308 lbs ( +22 lbs )  , half
-Still not able to go deep enough@242 , not even parallel. :uhhhfacepalm:
-Decided to push a bit more on half squats top set, went good, same depth/form/difficulty with last week's 286.

BENCH PRESS , Lance method ( 45 seconds pauses ):
110lbs ( same ) :
11 + 9 + 5 , total = 25reps ( +3 reps )

SEATED MACHINE ROWS , Lance method ( 45 seconds pauses ):
190lbs ( +5 lbs ) :
10 + 7 + 7 , total = 24 reps ( -1 rep )


STANDING CALVE RAISES:
1x15@198 lbs ( same )
1x15@198 lbs ( same )
1x15@198 lbs ( same )
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1366 on: April 12, 2012, 04:55:29 pm »
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Damn, you really went down in that 3rd set ... 11+9 and then suddenly only 5. I have that tendency as well. Maybe we just have fast twitch fibers that don't have enough time to recover in 45 s :D
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1367 on: April 12, 2012, 06:44:33 pm »
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^Nah,  I've been doing 4x8 upper all year long, I'm ok with that rep range, i just pushed almost to failure in first 2 sets so got too fatigued. That and a mental CNS shutdown because with those last 5 i reached the 25 reps needed to advance weight , as silly as it may sound!  :P
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1368 on: April 17, 2012, 04:46:55 pm »
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Easter weekend here so 4 days off.
Want to change training schedule to a higher frequency one but its not doable yet. Not updating the weekend reminder as i consider the previous block done , gonna keep previous scheme for a while but cancel the upper body day and integrate upper workouts in the lower body days with 'Lance-method'. So for now its 2 days [lower + lance upper] plus one 3d lower when possible. Eventually the 3d lower will be permanent and i will add sprints/plyos/ME jumps.

17 April 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~194
Injuries/aches : none
Soreness : none

Potentiation lower workout ( bball game tomorrow ).

HANG POWER CLEANS:
3@110 lbs ( same )
3@121 lbs ( same )
3@132 lbs ( same )
3@143 lbs ( +1 rep) , 3RM  :personal-record:
1@154 lbs ( same ) , ties 1RM :personal-record:
-Constant progress , love how those go.

BUFFERED MSEM FULL SQUATS :
8x1@198 lbs ( -22lbs )
-Last week i didn't recover from 8x1@220 so lowered to 198 to see what happens.
-Very powerful and explosive BUT : I filmed the first 3 reps and although i thought i was going full ROM they were a couple of inches above parallel!
Big fail, must think well what to do with my full squats.  :uhhhfacepalm:

STANDING CALVE RAISES:
-Didn't recover from them last week too so skipped them.

SHOULDERS SEATED OHP , Lance method ( 45 seconds pauses ):
88 lbs :
12 + 10 + 8 , total = 30reps.

WIDE GRIP LAT PULLDOWNS, Lance method ( 45 seconds pauses ):
160 lbs :
10 + 8 + 8 , total = 26reps.

-First time doing both those Lance-style , i obviously went too light in both.  :uhhhfacepalm:  :pissed:
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1369 on: April 17, 2012, 04:57:38 pm »
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Externally rotate feet more, widen the stance a bit more.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1370 on: April 17, 2012, 06:16:04 pm »
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Externally rotate feet more, widen the stance a bit more.

Feet are externally rotated , about 30 degrees. Stance could be wider indeed. Maybe i should step out of the cage too , maybe the fear of hitting it at the bottom stops me , i did smash it hard at my 60kg warmup set today.



To anyone interested , i just  uploaded a vid with some HP cleans and squats from today's workout at my pics and vids thread, here's the link:

http://www.adarq.org/forum/adarq-org-special-content/age-vs-vertical-pics-and-vids/msg69291/#msg69291
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1371 on: April 17, 2012, 06:37:28 pm »
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All this time I wondered why you used such awkward weight amounts like 121lbs, and 132lbs.  Never occurred to me that you were converting from kilos til I saw your vid. 

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1372 on: April 18, 2012, 02:06:13 pm »
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All this time I wondered why you used such awkward weight amounts like 121lbs, and 132lbs.  Never occurred to me that you were converting from kilos til I saw your vid. 

LOL yes , i convert kilos, that goes back before joining the forum, i was talking with kellyb and adarqui for coaching advice and they both use lbs so it just became a habbit to log in lbs.

18 April 2012

Bball game.
Awesome endurance , not sure about vert.
I don't know if potentiation worked , i wasn't sore like i was last week after 8x1@220. Legs felt explosive and were ready to fire during all game. A couple of rim jumps were low though , 26-ish SVJ  and 30-ish dropstep.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1373 on: April 19, 2012, 04:17:20 pm »
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19 April 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~193.5
Injuries/aches : none
Soreness : none

ME lower workout + Lance method upper

JUMP SNATCHES:
3@55 ( -11 lbs )
3@66 ( -11 lbs )
3@77 ( -11 lbs )
3@88 ( -11 lbs )
3@99 ( same )
-Changed form. Lowering bar above knee insted of under it. Lowered load to get it right. Went good.

SQUATS:
5@198 lbs ( +11 lbs )  , full
5@220 lbs ( same ) , parallel
5@242 lbs ( same ) , just above parallel
5@275 lbs ( +11 lbs )  , half
5@308 lbs ( same )  , half
-Used wider stance. No depth or strength improvements.
-Once again not able to go deep enough@242 , not even parallel.

BENCH PRESS , Lance method ( 45 seconds pauses ):
115,5lbs ( +5,5 lbs ) :
9 + 7 + 5 , total = 21reps ( -4 reps )

SEATED MACHINE ROWS , Lance method ( 45 seconds pauses ):
190lbs ( same ) :
12 + 8 + 7 , total = 27 reps ( +3 reps )

STANDING CALVE RAISES:
1x15@198 lbs ( same )
1x15@198 lbs ( same )
1x15@198 lbs ( same )
« Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 05:56:34 pm by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1374 on: April 19, 2012, 04:48:10 pm »
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You should film your snatches...
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1375 on: April 19, 2012, 05:49:13 pm »
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You should film your snatches...



New form video uploaded on my pics/vids thread , comment there people:

http://www.adarq.org/forum/adarq-org-special-content/age-vs-vertical-pics-and-vids/msg69400/#msg69400
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1376 on: April 22, 2012, 08:21:19 am »
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Upon further inspection of my last video and older videos of half squats , i decided that the ROM of my current heavy 'half squats' is ridiculously limited. They are actually quarter squats and i don't see the point of wasting time and effort with them when my full squat strength is lacking so much, so i decided to phase them out.
I still see the benefits of half squats, especially for my build, but whenever i use them I will use a maximum of 110% of what i can get to parallel or barely above ( currently 5x242lbs ) , so top set for half squats will now be 5x265.

Most probable setup for ME day is 5x5 in 22lbs incements:
5x176 , full.
5x198 , full.
5x220 , parallel and try to go lower.
5x242 , however low i can get.
5x264 , however low i can get.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1377 on: April 22, 2012, 09:21:37 am »
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It's weird to me that you're getting heavier and heavier towards the end. I'd be dead if I were to go 5x5 with the last set being the heaviest.

I go low volume towards a heavy weight, squat close to 1RM for potentiation (and maybe unrack ~150%) and then come back to my work set weight and move that pretty explosive.

Why don't you go to 120 kg as your first set and then back down from there? I think you'd do your rest sets better after you get potentiated from that heavy first set.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1378 on: April 25, 2012, 04:40:51 am »
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^Really? Again???

24 April 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~191,5  :o
Injuries/aches : none
Soreness : none

Explpsove lower workout.

HANG POWER CLEANS:
3@88 lbs ( -22 lbs )
3@99 lbs ( -22 lbs )
3@110 lbs ( -22 lbs )
3@121 lbs ( -22 lbs )
3@132 lbs ( -22 lbs ), ( +2 reps)( same )
-Lowered the weight to make technique adjustments.
-The whole movement felt much more powerfull and quick.
-Going to let a few more sessions and then film again to re-evaluate.

EXPLOSIVE PARALLEL BOX SQUATS :
3@198 lbs ( same )
3@209 lbs ( same )
3@220 lbs ( same )
3@231 lbs ( same )
3@242 lbs ( same )
3@264 lbs ( +5,5 lbs ):personal-record:
-Up to 242 very fast. 264 slower but not even close to a grinder.

STANDING CALVE RAISES:
3x8@209
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1379 on: April 26, 2012, 02:23:43 pm »
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26 April 2012

Went in the park to check my vert/dunks.
I went dunking like 1 time in 2012 so it went much better than i expected.
Rim jumps at 9'10'' gave 30-ish SVJ , 32-ish dropstep and 33,5-ish DLRVJ. Also RVJs were very good , mostly limited from court grip.
Landed some very hard dunks at 9'10'' , landed my hardest dropstep dunks ever at 9'10'', also landed my first ever SVJ dunk at 9'8''.
That's by far the best starting dunk session i ever had ,  :highfive:  :ibjumping:
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?