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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1080 on: July 01, 2011, 06:19:52 am »
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Sucks, reminds me of my back injury when I came back too soon and pulled it back again on a SVJ dunk attempt. :pissed:

Can you do pistols?
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1081 on: July 01, 2011, 07:13:46 am »
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heal up quick vag... speedy recovery....

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1082 on: July 01, 2011, 10:50:51 am »
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Sucks, reminds me of my back injury when I came back too soon and pulled it back again on a SVJ dunk attempt. :pissed:

Thanks man, yes , i was thinking about it too, very similar story:
Light injury , almost recovered , douchebag going max out , reinjured worse!


Can you do pistols?

LOL , just look 2 posts above the one you replied , again!!!
Raptor = certified most bored log reader of adarq.org  :P

EDIT: i see it changed page at the post you relied so you'll be free of charges this time... LOL


heal up quick vag... speedy recovery....

Thanks man.
Speedy recovery + 37 years old = i don't think so  ;)
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1083 on: July 01, 2011, 10:59:18 am »
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So... anyway... can you do pistols?

 :-*
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1084 on: July 01, 2011, 11:54:47 am »
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Was reading through your journal. Pretty good stuff! I see big thing happening in your future.

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1085 on: July 01, 2011, 12:00:05 pm »
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Was reading through your journal. Pretty good stuff! I see big thing happening in your future.

As he's getting younger, the sky's the limit!
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1086 on: July 01, 2011, 12:31:14 pm »
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Was reading through your journal. Pretty good stuff! I see big thing happening in your future.

As he's getting younger, the sky's the limit!

Well, perception is reality. If he thinks he's old, his body knows no better. I dont believe he'll get weaker as he ages, rather stronger in his lifts as time goes on. It's a lot of misconception on this forum, and one way thinking, and your correct the sky is the limit. Big things!  

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1087 on: July 01, 2011, 01:31:02 pm »
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I think u'll recover pretty quick, since it's just a light pull frm jumping...

Start hitting those PR jumps soon man!
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1088 on: July 01, 2011, 01:56:04 pm »
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I think u'll recover pretty quick, since it's just a light pull frm jumping...

Start hitting those PR jumps soon man!

Thanks man , hopefully you're right in both!


Was reading through your journal. Pretty good stuff! I see big thing happening in your future.

As he's getting younger, the sky's the limit!

Well, perception is reality. If he thinks he's old, his body knows no better. I dont believe he'll get weaker as he ages, rather stronger in his lifts as time goes on. It's a lot of misconception on this forum, and one way thinking, and your correct the sky is the limit. Big things!  

Thanks icravesolefood ( lol , nice nick! )
It's a huge topic , training in my age.
Long story short from my experience:
Training approaches , methods , strength gains , diet and all are the same for 14 or 44
The two big problems with age are recovery time ( not for injuries , well those too but i mean muscle recovery ) and food partitioning. Probably joints&tendons elasticity too but i can't tell because im god damn lucky at that, no probs ever.
I see we are the same age , your numbers are impressive. Your journal/progress will be very interesting...


Ok , so no training = extra time for video edit , i uploaded a jump form vid :
http://www.adarq.org/forum/adarq-org-special-content/age-vs-vertical-pics-and-vids/msg52760/#msg52760
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1089 on: July 04, 2011, 02:35:31 pm »
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4 July 2011

Bodyweight@session : 190.5
Injuries/aches : back
Soreness : none

Get back at it/evaluation workout
Still feeling some stifness at my back but it is functional now. I'd say it's at ~90%

WARMUP:
-10 mins mins dynamic warmup

SPRINTS:
1x5x80m @ 70%
-Very good , feeling light, being able to maintain speed efortlessly.

10' & 10'4'' RIM JUMPS:
-Usual warmup jumps sequence
2x4 dropsteps : max ~31''
2x4 DLRVJs : max ~31.5''
-Not bad considering. Most jumps were ~30'' , couple of 31''s , only one 31.5''
-Quads got burned , weird. Maybe i was protecting my back and jumping all quads? No idea.
-Started a 5th set of jumps but only did 2 jumps at 29'' and decided to call it a day.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1090 on: July 04, 2011, 03:32:07 pm »
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When I had back problems I know the glutes were contracted almost THE ENTIRE TIME I was awake to protect the back no matter what I did.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1091 on: July 04, 2011, 03:43:35 pm »
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how did your back feel before/during/after the session? i mean, was there any change over time?
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1092 on: July 05, 2011, 05:35:31 am »
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When I had back problems I know the glutes were contracted almost THE ENTIRE TIME I was awake to protect the back no matter what I did.

That's what i thought happened , but i wasn't doing it on purpose , i am just guessing it was an auto-protect mode.

how did your back feel before/during/after the session? i mean, was there any change over time?

Nah , it's on a steady state now. There are no motions bugging me like it was when it was pulled , i can lift , hold etc , it just feels tight and stressed , just like when you are standing up for a long time letting your weight on one side more , hope it makes sense...
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1093 on: July 06, 2011, 02:32:10 pm »
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6 July 2011

Bodyweight@session : 190.5
Injuries/aches : back
Soreness : none

ME 10' rim jumps

WARMUP:
-10 mins mins dynamic warmup

JUMPS:
-Usual warmup jumps sequence
1x4 SVJs : max 29''
2x3 dropsteps : max ~32''
3x4 DLRVJs : max ~32''
-Dejavu session , just like 2 days ago but getting up higher.
-Back feeling exactly the same ( ~90% )
-30'' efortless , 31'' rather easy , 32'' repeatable , 32+ impossible.
-Quads got burned , AGAIN , shit is weird.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1094 on: July 07, 2011, 12:56:28 pm »
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So my back decided to compete the plan of totally destroying my training/peaking schedule:
I had this little node at my back , right in the middle of the traps. I can't even find the english medical term for it , like a small thick ball under the skin , very common. It was there for  like 5-6 years , totally inactive. It choose this specific week to develop a little peak and force me to surgically remove it. Now i gotta detrain for 1 more week ( that is when i remove the stiches! )

 :uhhhfacepalm: + :pissed:  +   FML
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?