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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1035 on: August 11, 2016, 09:47:00 pm »
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Still recovering from this bloody chest infection. Feeling pretty good but the chesty cough is hanging around. It's been nearly two weeks since I lifted which is a bitch. Have basically done nothing since the ball game last Wednesday. Thankfully my weight hasn't changed. Still around that 92-93 mark and a mirror check this morning confirmed my body comp is pretty much the same which is lucky considering what I have and haven't eaten the last two weeks.

Am going to lift tonight and see how I go. Will do an easy-ish session. Prob just squat and ohp. Will also use this opportunity to start squatting in my oly shoes again.

Plan for next week is to lift twice, play ball and jump and then re-introduce track work when the cough is completely gone. No point here at this time of year doing the track in the morning. It's usually 5-6 degrees which isn't going to help anyone.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1036 on: August 12, 2016, 12:49:12 am »
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Still recovering from this bloody chest infection. Feeling pretty good but the chesty cough is hanging around. It's been nearly two weeks since I lifted which is a bitch. Have basically done nothing since the ball game last Wednesday. Thankfully my weight hasn't changed. Still around that 92-93 mark and a mirror check this morning confirmed my body comp is pretty much the same which is lucky considering what I have and haven't eaten the last two weeks.

Am going to lift tonight and see how I go. Will do an easy-ish session. Prob just squat and ohp. Will also use this opportunity to start squatting in my oly shoes again.

Plan for next week is to lift twice, play ball and jump and then re-introduce track work when the cough is completely gone. No point here at this time of year doing the track in the morning. It's usually 5-6 degrees which isn't going to help anyone.

damn you been dealing with that chest infection for a while now..

i tell you what, i've only been sick once in the last year but, I don't have much contact with people anymore.. So easy to get sick when you "go to work". Prior to taking this year off, I got sick a ton the previous 3 years.

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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1037 on: August 12, 2016, 02:10:35 am »
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Still recovering from this bloody chest infection. Feeling pretty good but the chesty cough is hanging around. It's been nearly two weeks since I lifted which is a bitch. Have basically done nothing since the ball game last Wednesday. Thankfully my weight hasn't changed. Still around that 92-93 mark and a mirror check this morning confirmed my body comp is pretty much the same which is lucky considering what I have and haven't eaten the last two weeks.

Am going to lift tonight and see how I go. Will do an easy-ish session. Prob just squat and ohp. Will also use this opportunity to start squatting in my oly shoes again.

Plan for next week is to lift twice, play ball and jump and then re-introduce track work when the cough is completely gone. No point here at this time of year doing the track in the morning. It's usually 5-6 degrees which isn't going to help anyone.

damn you been dealing with that chest infection for a while now..

i tell you what, i've only been sick once in the last year but, I don't have much contact with people anymore.. So easy to get sick when you "go to work". Prior to taking this year off, I got sick a ton the previous 3 years.

Yeah it's been quite persistent.

It's mainly the kids. People send their sick kids to school which is the worst thing. Then everybody gets it. I think my immune system is worn though. I get this way pretty much every year so need to do something. Been looking into different probiotics and stuff like that to help me in the future. 
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1038 on: August 12, 2016, 10:40:35 am »
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Still recovering from this bloody chest infection. Feeling pretty good but the chesty cough is hanging around. It's been nearly two weeks since I lifted which is a bitch. Have basically done nothing since the ball game last Wednesday. Thankfully my weight hasn't changed. Still around that 92-93 mark and a mirror check this morning confirmed my body comp is pretty much the same which is lucky considering what I have and haven't eaten the last two weeks.

Am going to lift tonight and see how I go. Will do an easy-ish session. Prob just squat and ohp. Will also use this opportunity to start squatting in my oly shoes again.

Plan for next week is to lift twice, play ball and jump and then re-introduce track work when the cough is completely gone. No point here at this time of year doing the track in the morning. It's usually 5-6 degrees which isn't going to help anyone.

damn you been dealing with that chest infection for a while now..

i tell you what, i've only been sick once in the last year but, I don't have much contact with people anymore.. So easy to get sick when you "go to work". Prior to taking this year off, I got sick a ton the previous 3 years.

Yeah it's been quite persistent.

It's mainly the kids. People send their sick kids to school which is the worst thing. Then everybody gets it. I think my immune system is worn though. I get this way pretty much every year so need to do something. Been looking into different probiotics and stuff like that to help me in the future.

Yeah there's been a lot of illness going around this winter. It's also been the coldest/wettest winter I can remember. I'm just counting down the days until summer and warmer weather!!!
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1039 on: August 13, 2016, 03:16:43 am »
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Still recovering from this bloody chest infection. Feeling pretty good but the chesty cough is hanging around. It's been nearly two weeks since I lifted which is a bitch. Have basically done nothing since the ball game last Wednesday. Thankfully my weight hasn't changed. Still around that 92-93 mark and a mirror check this morning confirmed my body comp is pretty much the same which is lucky considering what I have and haven't eaten the last two weeks.

Am going to lift tonight and see how I go. Will do an easy-ish session. Prob just squat and ohp. Will also use this opportunity to start squatting in my oly shoes again.

Plan for next week is to lift twice, play ball and jump and then re-introduce track work when the cough is completely gone. No point here at this time of year doing the track in the morning. It's usually 5-6 degrees which isn't going to help anyone.

damn you been dealing with that chest infection for a while now..

i tell you what, i've only been sick once in the last year but, I don't have much contact with people anymore.. So easy to get sick when you "go to work". Prior to taking this year off, I got sick a ton the previous 3 years.

Yeah it's been quite persistent.

It's mainly the kids. People send their sick kids to school which is the worst thing. Then everybody gets it. I think my immune system is worn though. I get this way pretty much every year so need to do something. Been looking into different probiotics and stuff like that to help me in the future.

Yeah there's been a lot of illness going around this winter. It's also been the coldest/wettest winter I can remember. I'm just counting down the days until summer and warmer weather!!!

Yep. Fuckin winter. I normally like the cold but not this year.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1040 on: August 13, 2016, 03:25:16 am »
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12/08/16 - 4pm

Squats
Bar x 10, 60 x 5, 90 x 4, 110 x 4

Ohp
Bar x 10, 30 x 8, 40 x 8, 8, 8

Squats went surprisingly well. Will go back in to the next week with a 115 max and build back up again. Will only take a couple of weeks.

Only bad thing is my rib. Last Thursday I coughed that bad that I strained a rib muscle. It's was ok but I definitely felt it on the 90 and 110 sets.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1041 on: August 14, 2016, 01:51:02 am »
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12/08/16 - 4pm

Squats
Bar x 10, 60 x 5, 90 x 4, 110 x 4

Ohp
Bar x 10, 30 x 8, 40 x 8, 8, 8

Squats went surprisingly well. Will go back in to the next week with a 115 max and build back up again. Will only take a couple of weeks.

Only bad thing is my rib. Last Thursday I coughed that bad that I strained a rib muscle. It's was ok but I definitely felt it on the 90 and 110 sets.

how we can exert so much force in competition, training, etc.. then strain a muscle coughing. life is a twisted joke, we are all being trolled. :ninja:

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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1042 on: August 14, 2016, 08:41:14 pm »
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12/08/16 - 4pm

Squats
Bar x 10, 60 x 5, 90 x 4, 110 x 4

Ohp
Bar x 10, 30 x 8, 40 x 8, 8, 8

Squats went surprisingly well. Will go back in to the next week with a 115 max and build back up again. Will only take a couple of weeks.

Only bad thing is my rib. Last Thursday I coughed that bad that I strained a rib muscle. It's was ok but I definitely felt it on the 90 and 110 sets.

how we can exert so much force in competition, training, etc.. then strain a muscle coughing. life is a twisted joke, we are all being trolled. :ninja:

I know right! I felt like a frail old man when it happened. It was some serious coughing though. Probably exerted more force on my core than any other exercise I've done in years  :-[
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1043 on: August 15, 2016, 10:08:38 am »
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i had whooping cough in college. do not get whooping cough, it's common to break a rib from the violence of the coughing. managed to avoid that fate but i didn't get a full night's sleep for six weeks.

that was the last time i had a serious cough (11 years ago) and by god i hope i never have one again. sucks.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1044 on: August 15, 2016, 07:27:48 pm »
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i had whooping cough in college. do not get whooping cough, it's common to break a rib from the violence of the coughing. managed to avoid that fate but i didn't get a full night's sleep for six weeks.

that was the last time i had a serious cough (11 years ago) and by god i hope i never have one again. sucks.

Damn! Yeah whooping cough is shit. I've had the vaccination twice when each of my kids were born. I have had a serious cough for the last 3 weeks but it has settled considerably now which is great. Feel like I will be pretty much back to normal by next week.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1045 on: August 16, 2016, 01:39:11 am »
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Missed lifting last night and it's my daughters birthday today but I should be able to sneak in a quick lift between getting home from work, my sons swimming lessons and the family celebration with cake. Depending on how the rib goes I will squat, hip thrust (realised I've been doing weighted glute bridges so far but will change tonight) and some OHP & chins. I will probably have 30 mins so will see what I can fit in.

I have 9 weeks left of the normal ball season then 3-4 weeks of finals. I'm really hoping to make some significant gains in that time and feel like this is possible if I focus on the following:

Nutrition
Was 92kgs even this morning.  I want to be 87-88 heading into the finals. 5kg in 8 weeks should be possible. The shit thing is even if I lose purely fat my bf will probably still be in the low teens at 87kg. I need to be there or lower though (captain obvious). Still going on 2,400 cals a day as this number produced a good drop in weight when I hit it but allowed me to still eat a decent amount for training.

Training
Getting more full sessions of the jump circuit and track work in. Again a captain obvious moment. Was re-reading T0ddday's comments and details for the program and really the jump circuit/practice is a critical part of the program which I have been unintentionally neglecting. I will patiently push my squat and push press and just be patient with the other lifts to manage overall stress.I have figured out where I can do med ball tosses when it's not wet too (are there alternatives to med ball tosses though that can have a similar benefit? KB swings? idk). Another thing I'm planning is at least monthly massages. I have private health so will only pay $15-20 or so for it so I might as well use it. 

On a side note I was watching some old dunking videos of mine from 2012 (http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/two-hands-two-feet/msg79920/#msg79920) and also watching the raw footage and although it's pretty sad the speed at which I dunk it's also pretty sad how easily I could dunk back then with minimal run up or effort compared to now. It was nearly 4 years ago and I was squatting 100x5 and deadlifting 130 x 5 around that time. Was weighing in at 90kg. Makes me want to improve even more watching that back.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1046 on: August 16, 2016, 09:48:37 am »
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Missed lifting last night and it's my daughters birthday today but I should be able to sneak in a quick lift between getting home from work, my sons swimming lessons and the family celebration with cake. Depending on how the rib goes I will squat, hip thrust (realised I've been doing weighted glute bridges so far but will change tonight) and some OHP & chins. I will probably have 30 mins so will see what I can fit in.

I have 9 weeks left of the normal ball season then 3-4 weeks of finals. I'm really hoping to make some significant gains in that time and feel like this is possible if I focus on the following:

Nutrition
Was 92kgs even this morning.  I want to be 87-88 heading into the finals. 5kg in 8 weeks should be possible. The shit thing is even if I lose purely fat my bf will probably still be in the low teens at 87kg. I need to be there or lower though (captain obvious). Still going on 2,400 cals a day as this number produced a good drop in weight when I hit it but allowed me to still eat a decent amount for training.

Training
Getting more full sessions of the jump circuit and track work in. Again a captain obvious moment. Was re-reading T0ddday's comments and details for the program and really the jump circuit/practice is a critical part of the program which I have been unintentionally neglecting. I will patiently push my squat and push press and just be patient with the other lifts to manage overall stress.I have figured out where I can do med ball tosses when it's not wet too (are there alternatives to med ball tosses though that can have a similar benefit? KB swings? idk). Another thing I'm planning is at least monthly massages. I have private health so will only pay $15-20 or so for it so I might as well use it. 

On a side note I was watching some old dunking videos of mine from 2012 (http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/two-hands-two-feet/msg79920/#msg79920) and also watching the raw footage and although it's pretty sad the speed at which I dunk it's also pretty sad how easily I could dunk back then with minimal run up or effort compared to now. It was nearly 4 years ago and I was squatting 100x5 and deadlifting 130 x 5 around that time. Was weighing in at 90kg. Makes me want to improve even more watching that back.

Yes, the jump workouts are paramount!  If you read my comments on Andrews journal one thing you might revise about my jump workout (if you do it in a bball gym) is to have your ME jumps be lob dunks - this way you get practice dunking and ME jumps at the same time...  Course you have to know how to throw a lob...

Banded DB or KB swings are a useful exercise but I don't know if I consider it a great substitute.  Many coaches swear by clean and snatch high pulls (where you accelerate the bar and let go of it) as a substitute and it makes sense... However, it's technically harder to learn to accelerate a barbell than it is a ball so I don't like them as much - Also you need a gym where you can drop the bar and I don't know if you have this...

As far as ball tosses... I like doing them outdoors but of course I live in Socal where it's never rainy.  You CAN do them inside.  If you don't have enough space you can do them anywhere where you have a sturdy wall behind you.   I prefer a 12lb ball but if you are limited for space you can get a heavier ball and as long as you have about 10 yards distance from the wall you can make your goal to hit as high on the wall as possible...  Just make sure you have a heavy enough ball and enough distance that it's something challenging that you can improve on.   You can also do them from your knees which will really decrease the distance that you need to have - just make sure your on a soft surface or have knee pads - this can hurt.  You can work on a toss from the knees where you land in a half squat after the release.

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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1047 on: August 16, 2016, 09:53:22 am »
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i do MB tosses with a 12lb ball on a squash or racquetball court. high ceilings mean it's easy to "measure" improvement: the harder (louder) it hits the ceiling, the more powerful the throw.
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« Reply #1048 on: August 16, 2016, 10:17:18 am »
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i do MB tosses with a 12lb ball on a squash or racquetball court. high ceilings mean it's easy to "measure" improvement: the harder (louder) it hits the ceiling, the more powerful the throw.

Yeah forgot to mention this but meant to.  Watch LBSS videos from his first to his last ball (most recent ball tosses) the improvement is pretty striking... The change in his ability to activate his hips and send the ball vs throw it is what you get out of this and I don't think KB swings provide the same benefit...  This is why I like exercises with constant weight but a goal of improving distance/height... I mean that is what vertical jumping and dunking are...

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« Reply #1049 on: August 16, 2016, 08:40:00 pm »
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Missed lifting last night and it's my daughters birthday today but I should be able to sneak in a quick lift between getting home from work, my sons swimming lessons and the family celebration with cake. Depending on how the rib goes I will squat, hip thrust (realised I've been doing weighted glute bridges so far but will change tonight) and some OHP & chins. I will probably have 30 mins so will see what I can fit in.

I have 9 weeks left of the normal ball season then 3-4 weeks of finals. I'm really hoping to make some significant gains in that time and feel like this is possible if I focus on the following:

Nutrition
Was 92kgs even this morning.  I want to be 87-88 heading into the finals. 5kg in 8 weeks should be possible. The shit thing is even if I lose purely fat my bf will probably still be in the low teens at 87kg. I need to be there or lower though (captain obvious). Still going on 2,400 cals a day as this number produced a good drop in weight when I hit it but allowed me to still eat a decent amount for training.

Training
Getting more full sessions of the jump circuit and track work in. Again a captain obvious moment. Was re-reading T0ddday's comments and details for the program and really the jump circuit/practice is a critical part of the program which I have been unintentionally neglecting. I will patiently push my squat and push press and just be patient with the other lifts to manage overall stress.I have figured out where I can do med ball tosses when it's not wet too (are there alternatives to med ball tosses though that can have a similar benefit? KB swings? idk). Another thing I'm planning is at least monthly massages. I have private health so will only pay $15-20 or so for it so I might as well use it. 

On a side note I was watching some old dunking videos of mine from 2012 (http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/two-hands-two-feet/msg79920/#msg79920) and also watching the raw footage and although it's pretty sad the speed at which I dunk it's also pretty sad how easily I could dunk back then with minimal run up or effort compared to now. It was nearly 4 years ago and I was squatting 100x5 and deadlifting 130 x 5 around that time. Was weighing in at 90kg. Makes me want to improve even more watching that back.

Yes, the jump workouts are paramount!  If you read my comments on Andrews journal one thing you might revise about my jump workout (if you do it in a bball gym) is to have your ME jumps be lob dunks - this way you get practice dunking and ME jumps at the same time...  Course you have to know how to throw a lob...

Banded DB or KB swings are a useful exercise but I don't know if I consider it a great substitute.  Many coaches swear by clean and snatch high pulls (where you accelerate the bar and let go of it) as a substitute and it makes sense... However, it's technically harder to learn to accelerate a barbell than it is a ball so I don't like them as much - Also you need a gym where you can drop the bar and I don't know if you have this...

As far as ball tosses... I like doing them outdoors but of course I live in Socal where it's never rainy.  You CAN do them inside.  If you don't have enough space you can do them anywhere where you have a sturdy wall behind you.   I prefer a 12lb ball but if you are limited for space you can get a heavier ball and as long as you have about 10 yards distance from the wall you can make your goal to hit as high on the wall as possible...  Just make sure you have a heavy enough ball and enough distance that it's something challenging that you can improve on.   You can also do them from your knees which will really decrease the distance that you need to have - just make sure your on a soft surface or have knee pads - this can hurt.  You can work on a toss from the knees where you land in a half squat after the release.

Yeah I kind of fell back into my old thinking of weights first then everything else afterwards. It was when you posted in Maxent's log about jumping > track > weights (or something to that effect) that it clicked. I will be aiming to get to a court for one session a week and will be able to include jumps with lobs. I like that idea. My lobs have been shithouse since I left high school where I used to do them pretty much every day.

I have a 6kg slam ball which I will use. It's starting to warm up a bit here so that will be in my favour. Actually do it from the knees as I could probably do these within my garage where my weights are.

Would you still do from knees doing backwards tosses?
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