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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #300 on: July 24, 2014, 08:41:05 am »
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yeah it's nothing against PC or (obviously) trying to make progress. but vag pretty much nailed it: don't chase weight room numbers at the expense of your main training goals.

but full cleans and power cleans are different movements -- full cleans are technically a lot more difficult to do. after all, a power clean can always be a little bit of an explosive reverse grip curl. if full cleans are something you want to add to your repertoire, then i think you should be drilling them now. but i don't know why you'd want to add them now, unless you're switching your focus to olympic lifting. spending a lot of time learning a technical lift, especially without coaching, just runs the risk of distracting you from higher-payoff activities.

It has me thinking though. I have no real illusions about my lifting career and realistically, once (I won't say if cause that's a losers attitude) I reach double bw squat and 2.5 bw deadlift I see no reason to keep pushing the envelope weight wise for stress and recovery. I'd rather turn my attention somewhere else and work on other aspects like size, rate of force whatever, oly lifting, etc. I figure if I can get some basics now then I'll be further ahead come that time.

I have to admit I have half a mongrel for crossfit at the moment but cannot in all good conscience go in that direction. They do have a good oly coach not 5 mins from my house so that's something I may look into. 

I'm a bit tentative to go in that direction for exactly the reasons you've said though.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #301 on: July 24, 2014, 08:50:44 am »
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23/7/14
B3W
Week 12- Session 45
BW- 92.6

Dynamic Warm Up

Jump & Catch into OHS
bar x 5, 5

Deadlift-
OL DL- 60 x 5, 80 x 5, 100 x 5
DL- 120 x 5, 145 x 5  :personal-record:

Ring Chins-
BW x 5, 5
+7.5 x 5, 4, 4

BB Curls-
30 x 10, 8, 5

Mini Circuit
Ring push ups- 10, 5
Thrusters 30kg- 10, 5
Push ups- 5
Thrusters bar- 5

Core Circuit

I'm in half a mind to go for some singles soon on the DL. Maybe when I get 150 for 5 I would hope to be able to hit 170+.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #302 on: July 24, 2014, 05:27:12 pm »
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I think the clean number is 1.5x according to what I've been reading in VJB 2.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #303 on: July 24, 2014, 07:58:41 pm »
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If that's a full clean then I've got a ways to go. I'm not even front squatting that so there's that to tick off first.

If it's PC then I think I wouldn't be too far off in the next 6-12 months.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #304 on: July 27, 2014, 06:06:21 pm »
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26/7/14

First BJJ class. Pretty cool stuff. Worked on basic transitions from arm bar to omoplata to triangle. Had a free roll for the last 10 minutes and it worked me over pretty hard. I'm pretty strong compared to the others but lack the endurance.

V good indeed but pretty sore afterwards.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #305 on: July 28, 2014, 12:10:05 am »
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28/7/14
B3W
Week 12- Session 46
BW- ?

Combination day here. Had the CBFs yesterday and don't want to push out the start of the next week.

Warm Up- Limited

Power snatch-
bar x 5
40 x 5
Snatch Grip DL-
60 x 5, 80 x 5, 100 x 5  :personal-record:

Front Squat-
60 x 5, 80 x 5, 100 x 5  :personal-record:

OHP-
bar x 10, 40 x 5
Push Press-
60 x 4, 5, 3

Pull Ups-
bw x 5, +5 x 1, +10 x 1, +15 x 2, +20 x 2, +25 x 1 :personal-record:

Figured I'd try and move the OHP along by going up in the push press. I will go this way for a few weeks and come back to the OHP and see how it goes. Focus and form play a big part on these lifts for me.
Pull ups went better than expected. Thought I'd get 15 and maybe nudge 20. 20 for 1 was easy. 25 for 1 was difficult and I just got it.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #306 on: July 29, 2014, 10:12:36 pm »
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So I've got a week away somewhere warm at the start of September. Looking to get the bodyfat down a little 3-4% in the next 5 weeks. I'm going to focus on eating clean and getting around 2,500 on training days and 1,900-2,000 on rest days. I'll also be adding in some met-con style stuff after my main training sesh, starting tonight. I will be easing my way into things as I haven't done much/any of this recently/ever so we'll see how we go. I'm hoping not to overdo things but have still got power cleans and snatch work in prior to each session. Fingers crossed.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #307 on: July 30, 2014, 09:34:49 am »
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28/7/14
B3W
Week 13- Session 47
BW- ?

Dynamic Warm Up

Power Clean
HC- bar x 5
60 x 3, 80 x 1, 90 x 1 (ugly)

Squat-
60 x 5, 80 x 5, 100 x 5, 120 x 5 (nice- pretty sure it's an equal PR)

Incline Bench-
bar x 8, 40 x 8, 65 x 8, 6, 5

Ring Dips-
Bw x 6
+2.5 x 6, 6, 6

Mini Circuit-
Plate swings @ 10kg
Burpees
5 x 10

Whose stupid idea was it to do burpees???

Power cleans felt less than ideal. Not in the groove. Squats felt good though.
Have reset bench (prob should have gone as low as 60) to get some more quality reps in and build back from there.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #308 on: August 02, 2014, 08:21:34 pm »
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02/8/14
B3W
Week 13- Session 48
BW- 92.3

AM-
BJJ class. Lots of drills. No rolling at the end so felt pretty fresh. I've done martial arts on and off for about 15 years and can see why there's so much love for BJJ out there. It makes heaps of sense and is so progressive. V cool indeed.

PM-

Limited warm up

Jump & Catch into OHS
bar x 5, 5, 5

Deadlift-
OL DL- 60 x 5, 80 x 5, 100 x 5
DL- 120 x 5, 147.5 x 5  :personal-record:

Ring Chins-
bw x 5, 5
+7.5 x 3, 3, 3,

BB Curl-
30 x 10, 8, 8

Mini-circuit
1. Ring Push Ups- 5, 5, 5, 5
2. Thrusters- 40 x 5, 5, 5, 1

DL is going pretty well atm. Can feel my left bicep in the last couple of reps on my top set which I think is definitely related to my grip. I had an accident about 12 years ago in which I cut through the tendons in my left hand and the grip will never be as strong as my right so I might need to make some adjustments. Even just with volume. Idk.
I'm planning to test my max in a couple of weeks time and will reassess how I go forward from there. Will test max on DL, Squat, Front Squat and Bench (even though I don't currently do flat bench I'm still interested). I will do this the week before I go away and the week away relaxing in the sun will be my deload.


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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #309 on: August 03, 2014, 08:44:17 am »
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Nice job on the deadlift!
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #310 on: August 03, 2014, 07:30:47 pm »
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Thanks mate. Not sure how much longer I can do sets of 5 with the weight progressing but there's only one way to find out. It was a weird training session that one too. No music or sound of any kind and had a hong kong kung fu movie running on silent in the background. Odd training environment.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #311 on: August 03, 2014, 08:05:38 pm »
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The good thing about doing 5rm sets is that you can always back down to 3rm sets, which will enable you to be able to keep making linear progression. 150x5 might be hard but 150x3 would be a piece of cake for you now.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #312 on: August 03, 2014, 08:06:47 pm »
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03/08/2014
B3W
Week 13- Session 49
BW- 93.5

Quick session as I only had about 30 mins

Front Squat-
bar x 5, 40 x 5, 60 x 5, 80 x 5, 102.5 x 5  :personal-record:

OHP-
bar x 10, 40 x 5

Push Press-
60 x 5, 5, 5

And done.

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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #313 on: August 03, 2014, 08:19:41 pm »
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The good thing about doing 5rm sets is that you can always back down to 3rm sets, which will enable you to be able to keep making linear progression. 150x5 might be hard but 150x3 would be a piece of cake for you now.

Yep. That's kind of what I'm thinking. I am planning to stick to sets of 5 for the next 3 weeks and then test my 1rm (want to shoot for 180) and then have a week off. After that I'm not too sure but may go to top sets of 3 for a while.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #314 on: August 06, 2014, 07:31:58 pm »
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06/08/2014
B3W
Week 14- Session 50
BW- 92.6

Felt pretty average today. Little motivation and didn't feel ready when I got in the gym. Still got there though which is something.

Limited warm up

Hang Clean- bar x 5
Power Clean- 60 x 5

Squat-
bar x 5, 60 x 5, 80 x 5, 100 x 5, 122.5 x 4  :personal-record:

Incline Bench-
bar x 8, 40 x 8, 50 x 8, 65 x 8, 4, 5

Soooo close on the squats. Feel like I could have had a 5th rep in me but also felt like I wouldn't get back up. Decided to play it safe. Not too bad considering 100 felt super heavy. Can't really complain too much considering I'm getting PR's pretty much every week atm. Don't want that to end too soon.

Had nothing in the tank after bench. Decided to call it a day and get some rest.

I've been neglecting my stretching/SMR work so need to make that a focus again.
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