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Quote from: Coges on December 10, 2017, 05:35:11 pm

10/12/2017
bw- 91ish

Had nothing planned for today but had some spare time so decided to get something in.

KB swings- 16kgs x 100
Bottoms up KB press- 3 x 10 @ 6kgs
KB Swings- 16kgs x 100

Bike Trainer- 30 mins at easy/moderate pace

Bike was interesting. Quads hated me for the first 5 mins and it was pretty easy after that. Did a sprint for the last 20 seconds which was great and awful at the same time.

Goals-
Have a mini tri locked in for Feb 4 (exactly 8 weeks). Only 250m swim, 10k ride and 3k run so the distances aren't great. I want to smash it though and not just finish to say I did one. Training is largely going to remain the same with the exception of adding in some swimming and biking on top of the already planned running.

By the numbers-
bw- 86 (4kgs in 8 weeks seems reasonable)
Everything else will be business as usual

whooa nice @ mini tri!!

get it!

btw some woman i saw comment on my ironman friends FB, i looked up her ironman stats, something like a full in 9h4m .. all I know is that is insanely good. Full ironman people are nuts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironman_Triathlon

Damn this Chrissie Wellington woman dominates the WR's for female ironman.

Can't believe the marathon times for both the men and women, in that event. mind blowing.

Yeah a 2:44 marathon after all that is insane!

The plan is mini then sprint (750/40/5) and maybe looking at a half iron at the end of the year if I have the balls haha

12/12/17
30 minute base building run

4k @ 7:10 pace

Was listening to a podcast last night and there was some absolute gold that pretty much sums up where I've gone wrong with my training the last 5 years.

- You didn't just lose it. Remember how you got it.

- The athletes who are in the most danger are the ones who just hit a PR.

- Do you want to win the training day or succeed at your event.

Basically, slow and steady wins the race. It's not new information by a long stretch but it's so relevant to me it's just not funny.

Quote from: Coges on December 11, 2017, 05:30:24 pm

12/12/17
30 minute base building run

4k @ 7:10 pace

Was listening to a podcast last night and there was some absolute gold that pretty much sums up where I've gone wrong with my training the last 5 years.

- You didn't just lose it. Remember how you got it.

- The athletes who are in the most danger are the ones who just hit a PR.

- Do you want to win the training day or succeed at your event.

Basically, slow and steady wins the race. It's not new information by a long stretch but it's so relevant to me it's just not funny.

yup, all great points, especially that 2nd one. Life-after-PR can be a wreck.

As for #3, training PR's can still be a good thing to go after if you're feeling it. I think the importance of events is often overrated, especially early on. ie me with my races. I'd rather PR in training than wait for it and maybe or maybe not PR in a race. Eventually i'd rather PR/peak for races, but right now I don't care - if I see an opportunity to push my limits I should take it. That discipline of holding back and saving it for the event/competition is when it really matters - which could be for you in your first mini-try of course. But there's also a caveat to that, winning the training day "early on" when you're just starting some new training, isn't a great idea either.. slowly easing into it is important.

Good point!  The context around #3 was moreso on guys trying to PR every training day and wrecking themselves. It was all about the easy days not being easy enough and the hard days not being hard enough. It gets muddy in the middle there.

Agree with you that PRs in training provide a great level of motivation to continue training though,

I find the same thing with gyms it gives me motivation because usually there's always at least one person (depending on how busy the gym is) who lifts more than me.

Quote from: Mutumbo000 on December 12, 2017, 03:09:11 pm

I find the same thing with gyms it gives me motivation because usually there's always at least one person (depending on how busy the gym is) who lifts more than me.

Definitely. There's a few guys who are beasts but I'm finding a lot of gym bros at the moment who cycle between 8 different pieces of equipment and do quarter squats and round backed deads. Would be a different story if I trained at night tho. Still, as long as I have my own music it's more motivating that training at home.

What trips me out at my gym is there is one guy who is actually pretty buff. 6'2 100kg sitting around 10% bodyfat he looks vascular etc. However, his training regime is such a joke sometimes I wonder whether he just comes into the gym trolling in his 'workouts' and than comes back and does his real workouts later. Literally every time he comes to the gym he'll stand outside the gym before he walks in smoking. He never brings a bottle of water so he'll be back and forth to the water fountain 20x in an hour. His 'workout' consists of using heavy weights with 10% ROM no matter what exercise it is. E.g. he'll walk straight over to the bench and won't even warm up and just loads 3 plates on to it. Like I said he's in good shape so the first time I saw him I was like 'damn he's benching 3 plates without even having a warm up'. But than I actually saw him lift and he literally just benched 4 sets of 10 with 4 inches of ROM max. He does exactly the same on the squat but loads up with 5 plates  Halfway through his workouts he'll go out for another smoke and than come back strutting around in his Warrick Capper shorts and 'Golds Gym' singlet like he owns the gym does a few bicep curls and walks off.

if that dude is legit built and lean, then haters gonna hate, lol 

yup..

it's like adarq driving internet people insane with quarter squats back in the day. it was working for him, so he gave no fucks.

yup x 2

there's some beauty in being 'dumb' and simply training hard/heavy.. IMHO, it's a decent recipe for success. Another reason I wouldn't knock partial ROM routines, especially if it looks like it's working for someone. There's even more beauty in being intelligent and training hard/heavy using ROM's that give you the most results.

People hated my half squats with a passion.. my 225 x 45 off pins @ ~150 lb has tons of dislikes, r u kidding me? LMFAO. That's impressive AF and that's a fact. But the ROM really annoys people. I think if you find yourself genuinely annoyed with someone elses ROM, you need to "realize it" and then try to snap yourself out of letting it get to you. I mean my brain does stuff like that all the time and I tell it to STFU.

5 plates without a warmup sounds like a bad idea, but maybe he watched my "resting max" training videos? I'd never do that stuff again, that's for sure.. it was a combined success/failure experiment, just too mentally taxing to go from 0 to max (5RM) on squat.

The walking into the gym smoking thing is pretty funny tho.. tons of water fountain breaks sounds like a good thing, guy is recovering and getting in some h2o.

Gyms are great.. Haven't been to one in a long time but, really feels like you are out on a safari watching animals do weird shit.

Anyway, giving no fucks is great. Props to any1 who gives no fucks.

Quote from: LBSS on December 13, 2017, 12:02:51 pm

if that dude is legit built and lean, then haters gonna hate, lol 

yup..

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it's like adarq driving internet people insane with quarter squats back in the day. it was working for him, so he gave no fucks.

yup x 2

there's some beauty in being 'dumb' and simply training hard/heavy.. IMHO, it's a decent recipe for success. Another reason I wouldn't knock partial ROM routines, especially if it looks like it's working for someone. There's even more beauty in being intelligent and training hard/heavy using ROM's that give you the most results.

People hated my half squats with a passion.. my 225 x 45 off pins @ ~150 lb has tons of dislikes, r u kidding me? LMFAO. That's impressive AF and that's a fact. But the ROM really annoys people. I think if you find yourself genuinely annoyed with someone elses ROM, you need to "realize it" and then try to snap yourself out of letting it get to you. I mean my brain does stuff like that all the time and I tell it to STFU.

5 plates without a warmup sounds like a bad idea, but maybe he watched my "resting max" training videos? I'd never do that stuff again, that's for sure.. it was a combined success/failure experiment, just too mentally taxing to go from 0 to max (5RM) on squat.

The walking into the gym smoking thing is pretty funny tho.. tons of water fountain breaks sounds like a good thing, guy is recovering and getting in some h2o.

Gyms are great.. Haven't been to one in a long time but, really feels like you are out on a safari watching animals do weird shit.

Anyway, giving no fucks is great. Props to any1 who gives no fucks.

I don't watch much bodybuilder videos because bodybuilding isn't my thing. Personally I believe if you ever want to be a successful bodybuilder you've got to juice. I see natural bodybuilders that are meticulous with their training/diets and honestly with a shirt on they barely look like they lift because they don't have size. Without getting side tracked when I do watch bodybuilders train all the top ones are using heavy weight. Look at a Branch Warren video. His form is far from textbook but probably just the sheer power that you need to produce to move those weights is what produces the muscles (aside from the pharmaceuticals and CNS).

As for the water nothing wrong with drinking it but surely he'd think maybe it's easier just buying a 2 Litre bottle of water for $1 and using that as a drink bottle instead of always coming to the gym with nothing. Not a hater just an observer