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Quote from: T0ddday on September 01, 2016, 09:21:52 am

^^^ The sad thing is that while I don't blame Bolt he probably just reversed the stereotype such that every 5'6"  would be Trindon Holiday lookalike will now be doubted when they try to run the hundred because they just aren't tall enough...

I mean I get its human nature but the medias need to have things be obviously and simple is really part of the problem... The two most frustrating new stereotypes Bolt has created are:

1) Hes a poor starter cause his he is so tall.

2) His advantage is his long legs. 

Both totally false. 

1) He has the fastest recorded 30m, 40m, 50m, etc. Of all time (2009).  He may appear to be a poor starter because of the stupid automatic dq after false start rule... Since it bit him in 2011 Bolt has decided to be extremely cautious - I mean why risk any chance of a false start when you can win without a good start...  The new rule just ensures that faster people will "have" poor reaction times simply because the faster you are the more the risk reward ratio increases...

2) Bolt is fast because he has far more power than anyone else.  At high speeds our stride is hardly limited by our leg length - in fact he performs worse in the one part of the sprint where long legs provide the biggest advantage - the back straight in the 200m.  After already accelerating around the turn and fatigue setting in longer legs can start to make a minor difference in this part of the race (just watch Christophe Lemetrie long leg (his are longer than Bolt btw) his way to a bronze in rio)... Does Bolt have a great back 100?  No.  Yohan Blayke has run the fastest split of all time in the back stretch.  Number two is still Michael Johnson.  Bolt owns the record in the first hundred.  By a ridiculous margin.  He runs a faster turn than anyone else!  The turn! The part of the race where long legs don't provide a disadvantage if anything!  He is just simply more powerful than anyone else.

Maybe stereotypes get created partially cause we need to explain away others greatness because of our own ego?

Maybe it's just hard to say Bolt is simply the most powerful sprinter ever and I'm in awe of how much faster he is than me so instead I say "yeah he fast cause he has a huge advantage on me cause of his long legs".

Fine.  Maybe we need this.  I get it.  But let's just agree to make our excuses based on reasons that are illogical enough that they won't stick.  Bolt is faster than me cause he has access to magical yams.

Two words- sports analysts. Not sure how bad it is in the US but assuming it's way worse than here given the population, media outlets, number of sports televised, etc. Here we have complete channels dedicated to one sport and they over analyse the shit out of it and in the end create reasoning which ends up being mistaken for fact and is then regurgitated by others in an attempt to sound mildly intelligent.

Not really relevant but anyway-
I was having a conversation with my son the other day about being able to say "I don't know". With the amount of questions kids ask us as parents and ask other children the temptation is so high to create and answer of half truths or google it. What we don't actually do is say I don't know and then wonder what it might be.  I've done this a few times with him recently and it has led to some wonderful conversations with some highly inaccurate hypotheses and some accidentally accurate thoughts.

Interesting to hear you talk about sports analysts!  I thought that was an American problem. 

I can't imagine it being worse than here...  We have a guy called Bob Costas that basically announces the Super Bowl, World Series, olympics, etc.  Basically if it's important he is on it and providing narratives so it makes sense to everyone.  On one hand he is talented because he makes casual fans become more interested in all the stories he tells, but on the other hand it's like wtf your the expert on every important sporting event?  And the stories he tells are interesting but not true!

Interesting how similar Australian culture sounds in some ways to American culture...  Over here not only do we have terrible sports analysts but we also have far too much statistics.   It can get a little ridiculous when they say things like "only 25% of teams down 2-1 who lost the first and third game of a series and had home court and had a record winning less than 59 games the previous year have come back to win."

Then you realize there have only been four instances of this and the statistic is worthless... But they always have a million stats for fans to muddle over rather than just enjoying the game and the fact that nobody knows who will win!

Slightly unrelated but I can't stand ESPN for the most part and have no problem with their demise. I really only wish for ala carte purchasing of sports games and anything that gets us closer to that rather than tv deals is good for fans.  ESPN is also the male equivalent to watching reality shows about the kardashians...  I know a lot of guys that give women shit for watching that kinda stuff on tv but then they watch ESPN.  There is a show on ESPN where four sports reporters all compete in a sport/game where they talk about sports and earn points and are eliminated if their arguments are weak, in the end the last one standing gets to rant about his sports team for some amount of time.  It's literally a sport about arguing about sports... If that doesn't show that makes are the stupider of the sexes I don't know what does...

Quote from: Coges on September 01, 2016, 08:03:53 pm

Quote from: T0ddday on September 01, 2016, 09:21:52 am

^^^ The sad thing is that while I don't blame Bolt he probably just reversed the stereotype such that every 5'6"  would be Trindon Holiday lookalike will now be doubted when they try to run the hundred because they just aren't tall enough...

I mean I get its human nature but the medias need to have things be obviously and simple is really part of the problem... The two most frustrating new stereotypes Bolt has created are:

1) Hes a poor starter cause his he is so tall.

2) His advantage is his long legs. 

Both totally false. 

1) He has the fastest recorded 30m, 40m, 50m, etc. Of all time (2009).  He may appear to be a poor starter because of the stupid automatic dq after false start rule... Since it bit him in 2011 Bolt has decided to be extremely cautious - I mean why risk any chance of a false start when you can win without a good start...  The new rule just ensures that faster people will "have" poor reaction times simply because the faster you are the more the risk reward ratio increases...

2) Bolt is fast because he has far more power than anyone else.  At high speeds our stride is hardly limited by our leg length - in fact he performs worse in the one part of the sprint where long legs provide the biggest advantage - the back straight in the 200m.  After already accelerating around the turn and fatigue setting in longer legs can start to make a minor difference in this part of the race (just watch Christophe Lemetrie long leg (his are longer than Bolt btw) his way to a bronze in rio)... Does Bolt have a great back 100?  No.  Yohan Blayke has run the fastest split of all time in the back stretch.  Number two is still Michael Johnson.  Bolt owns the record in the first hundred.  By a ridiculous margin.  He runs a faster turn than anyone else!  The turn! The part of the race where long legs don't provide a disadvantage if anything!  He is just simply more powerful than anyone else.

Maybe stereotypes get created partially cause we need to explain away others greatness because of our own ego?

Maybe it's just hard to say Bolt is simply the most powerful sprinter ever and I'm in awe of how much faster he is than me so instead I say "yeah he fast cause he has a huge advantage on me cause of his long legs".

Fine.  Maybe we need this.  I get it.  But let's just agree to make our excuses based on reasons that are illogical enough that they won't stick.  Bolt is faster than me cause he has access to magical yams.

Two words- sports analysts. Not sure how bad it is in the US but assuming it's way worse than here given the population, media outlets, number of sports televised, etc. Here we have complete channels dedicated to one sport and they over analyse the shit out of it and in the end create reasoning which ends up being mistaken for fact and is then regurgitated by others in an attempt to sound mildly intelligent.

Not really relevant but anyway-
I was having a conversation with my son the other day about being able to say "I don't know". With the amount of questions kids ask us as parents and ask other children the temptation is so high to create and answer of half truths or google it. What we don't actually do is say I don't know and then wonder what it might be.  I've done this a few times with him recently and it has led to some wonderful conversations with some highly inaccurate hypotheses and some accidentally accurate thoughts.

Interesting to hear you talk about sports analysts!  I thought that was an American problem. 

I can't imagine it being worse than here...  We have a guy called Bob Costas that basically announces the Super Bowl, World Series, olympics, etc.  Basically if it's important he is on it and providing narratives so it makes sense to everyone.  On one hand he is talented because he makes casual fans become more interested in all the stories he tells, but on the other hand it's like wtf your the expert on every important sporting event?  And the stories he tells are interesting but not true!

Interesting how similar Australian culture sounds in some ways to American culture...  Over here not only do we have terrible sports analysts but we also have far too much statistics.   It can get a little ridiculous when they say things like "only 25% of teams down 2-1 who lost the first and third game of a series and had home court and had a record winning less than 59 games the previous year have come back to win."

Then you realize there have only been four instances of this and the statistic is worthless... But they always have a million stats for fans to muddle over rather than just enjoying the game and the fact that nobody knows who will win!

Slightly unrelated but I can't stand ESPN for the most part and have no problem with their demise. I really only wish for ala carte purchasing of sports games and anything that gets us closer to that rather than tv deals is good for fans.  ESPN is also the male equivalent to watching reality shows about the kardashians...  I know a lot of guys that give women shit for watching that kinda stuff on tv but then they watch ESPN.  There is a show on ESPN where four sports reporters all compete in a sport/game where they talk about sports and earn points and are eliminated if their arguments are weak, in the end the last one standing gets to rant about his sports team for some amount of time.  It's literally a sport about arguing about sports... If that doesn't show that makes are the stupider of the sexes I don't know what does...

around the horn! lmfao!!@

ya i can't stand ESPN either (the sports analyst segment of it).

I do love "outside the lines" though.

ESPN 30 for 30 is great. also the OJ documentary is epic.

but yeah the talking head shows are infuriating. even kornheiser and wilbon, who i loved at first because they were the washington post columnists when i was growing up, are just irritating now.

Quote from: Coges on September 06, 2016, 01:21:25 am

Quote from: adarqui on September 05, 2016, 08:53:14 pm

Quote from: acole14 on September 05, 2016, 08:47:16 am

Quote from: Coges on September 05, 2016, 06:24:31 am

Quote from: acole14 on September 05, 2016, 01:32:06 am

That sucks mate. Gonna keep playing ball for the short-term?

Thanks mate. Yeah I plan on playing the season out and will assess from there. Am skipping this week and will hopefully be good to go next week.

Feel like I'm whingeing a bit but it seems like a 1 step forward 2 steps back at the moment.

Nah it's not about being soft or anything, you just have to be really smart and measured with this type of training. Can't neglect anything as there are just so many possible injuries you can't 'push through' no matter how big of a stoic you are. Even minor/moderate stuff can prevent you doing the meat of the program effectively (e.g. squatting big, jumping, sprinting, bounding). So don't feel bad about getting your ducks in a row. AELS and all that!

x2

aels!

i'd be curious to see if Coges sees any improvement in recovery once he's on a consistent 8 hour sleep schedule instead of ~6 hours. It could make a major difference eventually.. we'll have to wait and see.

AELS (anti ego lifting?)

I'm pretty conscious that two of my major flaws have been sleep and nutrition and I'm pretty sure that getting these two lined up would make a massive difference. Life changing.

Yeah @acole14 you're right. The reason why I feel like I'm complaining too is that I have never really been consistent with this stuff and when I am consistent I get great results. Frustrating but true. I'll continue to play because it's with a bunch of mates and I don't want to leave them hanging. If I can line up the other stuff I'm pretty sure I'll be fine.

Haha yep anti-ego lifting squad! Adarq and a few others coined in it another thread, can't remember when. Sounds good, definitely poor form to abandon a team you've committed to, and you can fit it into the program, I'd just readjust the jumps volume (or ask T0ddday how to manage).

I think I'm already a life member of AELS. I tend not to push myself and rather save myself for the next battle than go all out. I think that's almost as bad as going too hard though.

Yeah I'll definitely see the season out. I was using the game as a jumping session which was fine. Just need to stay on top of the rest of the non-lifting/track stuff and I think I'll be ok.

Forgot to log training from the other day (not sure you can call it training but anyway)

6/9/16- 6pm

Squats
bar x 10, 60 x 5, 80 x 3 - bugged out due to shoulder and first rib on left side. Bar was putting too much pressure on it making it seriously uncomfortable

Single arm DB floor press
3x10@15kg - did these pain free. I had tried OHP, incline press and flat bench first and all three were stuffed

 

08/09/2016- 4pm

Warm up- Ido squat routine, monster walks, hip flexor, calf stretch, banded pull aparts,

Squat-
Bar x 5, 60 x 5, 80 x 5, 90 x 3, 100 x 5 (2s pause on last rep)

RDL-
60 x 8, 8, 8

Decline bench leg raise-
bw x 10, 10

DB Floor press-
20 x 10, 10, 10

DB Row-
20 x 15, 15

Post mortem:
Squats felt great. Really sitting back more. Forgot about knee sleeves but had no issues. Will bring them back and will only use belt at higher levels.
Left hamstring was/is kinda rubbish at the moment. Not sure if slight strain or just needs more attention. Did some RDLs just to try and get some decent movement back into it.
Tried OHP, incline and flat bench again. No good yet. Will keep up with floor press as this is giving me no problems at all.

Quote from: adarqui on September 06, 2016, 11:58:48 am

Quote from: Coges on September 06, 2016, 01:21:25 am

Quote from: adarqui on September 05, 2016, 08:53:14 pm

Quote from: acole14 on September 05, 2016, 08:47:16 am

Quote from: Coges on September 05, 2016, 06:24:31 am

Quote from: acole14 on September 05, 2016, 01:32:06 am

That sucks mate. Gonna keep playing ball for the short-term?

Thanks mate. Yeah I plan on playing the season out and will assess from there. Am skipping this week and will hopefully be good to go next week.

Feel like I'm whingeing a bit but it seems like a 1 step forward 2 steps back at the moment.

Nah it's not about being soft or anything, you just have to be really smart and measured with this type of training. Can't neglect anything as there are just so many possible injuries you can't 'push through' no matter how big of a stoic you are. Even minor/moderate stuff can prevent you doing the meat of the program effectively (e.g. squatting big, jumping, sprinting, bounding). So don't feel bad about getting your ducks in a row. AELS and all that!

x2

aels!

i'd be curious to see if Coges sees any improvement in recovery once he's on a consistent 8 hour sleep schedule instead of ~6 hours. It could make a major difference eventually.. we'll have to wait and see.

AELS (anti ego lifting?)

http://www.adarq.org/injury-prehab-rehab-talk-for-the-brittlebros/anti-ego-lifting-support-thread-(aels)-save-a-joint-save-a-life/



honestly I should have WAAAY more posts in that thread..

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I'm pretty conscious that two of my major flaws have been sleep and nutrition and I'm pretty sure that getting these two lined up would make a massive difference. Life changing.

nice! eventually just go for it.. i'm trying to do the same right now with:
- going to sleep at ~11 PM (or earlier) and waking up at 6 AM
- eating clean af, more spinach salads and such

going good so far.. i think it'll take a few more weeks before i feel "much more awake" in the mornings. Right now after my morning runs, I feel like sleeping. I'd like that to disappear heh.

pc!!

I've been loving your IG salad fest and it's inspiring me to get more veg in my diet. I eat a decent amount but probably nowhere near enough.

ha cool! ya man I feel GREAT when I eat those salads. And by GREAT I mean, just energetic, no carb/food coma/lethargic feeling.. something about spinach, olive oil, cheese, and milk.. just an epic combo of nutrients. I always eat 9 oz of spinach, which contains alot of potassium/vit A/iron/calcium.

i've got to reload on spinach tomorrow.

the only odd thing is how it makes my teeth feel.. I have to brush my teeth not long after eating these salads otherwise my teeth "feel dry" (probably all of the iron or something, dno).

I started a sleep diary a few days back. Simply tracking when I go to bed, wake up and eventually get up. At least I can put together something after a month or so to see the impact. I remember a podcast with a sleep expert who was saying that initially when people get more sleep they feel worse and they often associate the two and think they operate better on less. It's just the body adapting and you need to stick with it. I get this all the time where I feel pretty great on 6 hours but lethargic on 8 and have thought that I'm just better on 6 but have never given myself enough of the 8's to make a difference.

Also, it's spring here so looking forward to more sunshine and time outside. That will no doubt help with the sleep and training motivation too.

nice!

ya that adaptation portion is the tough part.. got to just stick with it.

i feel lethargic on > 8 .. I think I feel "perfect" on 8.. on 7 or less I feel like i'm definitely a bit sleep deprived. At my previous job I got by most often with 6 or less, very often 4 and sometimes 0 (all nighters) .... man it added up and just eventually crushed me. The worst side effect I got from it was my heart started racing at night when i'd try to fall asleep .. I probably did some damage HEH! All of this cardio/eating healthy/getting enough sleep is hopefully reversing all of that. I'll never do any of that again, that's for sure.. Chronic sleep depravation is like low-dose poison.

pc!

Quote from: Coges on September 07, 2016, 07:59:31 pm

Quote from: adarqui on September 06, 2016, 11:58:48 am

Quote from: Coges on September 06, 2016, 01:21:25 am

Quote from: adarqui on September 05, 2016, 08:53:14 pm

Quote from: acole14 on September 05, 2016, 08:47:16 am

Quote from: Coges on September 05, 2016, 06:24:31 am

Quote from: acole14 on September 05, 2016, 01:32:06 am

That sucks mate. Gonna keep playing ball for the short-term?

Thanks mate. Yeah I plan on playing the season out and will assess from there. Am skipping this week and will hopefully be good to go next week.

Feel like I'm whingeing a bit but it seems like a 1 step forward 2 steps back at the moment.

Nah it's not about being soft or anything, you just have to be really smart and measured with this type of training. Can't neglect anything as there are just so many possible injuries you can't 'push through' no matter how big of a stoic you are. Even minor/moderate stuff can prevent you doing the meat of the program effectively (e.g. squatting big, jumping, sprinting, bounding). So don't feel bad about getting your ducks in a row. AELS and all that!

x2

aels!

i'd be curious to see if Coges sees any improvement in recovery once he's on a consistent 8 hour sleep schedule instead of ~6 hours. It could make a major difference eventually.. we'll have to wait and see.

AELS (anti ego lifting?)

http://www.adarq.org/injury-prehab-rehab-talk-for-the-brittlebros/anti-ego-lifting-support-thread-(aels)-save-a-joint-save-a-life/



honestly I should have WAAAY more posts in that thread..

Quote

I'm pretty conscious that two of my major flaws have been sleep and nutrition and I'm pretty sure that getting these two lined up would make a massive difference. Life changing.

nice! eventually just go for it.. i'm trying to do the same right now with:
- going to sleep at ~11 PM (or earlier) and waking up at 6 AM
- eating clean af, more spinach salads and such

going good so far.. i think it'll take a few more weeks before i feel "much more awake" in the mornings. Right now after my morning runs, I feel like sleeping. I'd like that to disappear heh.

pc!!

I've been loving your IG salad fest and it's inspiring me to get more veg in my diet. I eat a decent amount but probably nowhere near enough.

ha cool! ya man I feel GREAT when I eat those salads. And by GREAT I mean, just energetic, no carb/food coma/lethargic feeling.. something about spinach, olive oil, cheese, and milk.. just an epic combo of nutrients. I always eat 9 oz of spinach, which contains alot of potassium/vit A/iron/calcium.

i've got to reload on spinach tomorrow.

the only odd thing is how it makes my teeth feel.. I have to brush my teeth not long after eating these salads otherwise my teeth "feel dry" (probably all of the iron or something, dno).

Quote

I started a sleep diary a few days back. Simply tracking when I go to bed, wake up and eventually get up. At least I can put together something after a month or so to see the impact. I remember a podcast with a sleep expert who was saying that initially when people get more sleep they feel worse and they often associate the two and think they operate better on less. It's just the body adapting and you need to stick with it. I get this all the time where I feel pretty great on 6 hours but lethargic on 8 and have thought that I'm just better on 6 but have never given myself enough of the 8's to make a difference.

Also, it's spring here so looking forward to more sunshine and time outside. That will no doubt help with the sleep and training motivation too.

nice!

ya that adaptation portion is the tough part.. got to just stick with it.

i feel lethargic on > 8 .. I think I feel "perfect" on 8.. on 7 or less I feel like i'm definitely a bit sleep deprived. At my previous job I got by most often with 6 or less, very often 4 and sometimes 0 (all nighters) .... man it added up and just eventually crushed me. The worst side effect I got from it was my heart started racing at night when i'd try to fall asleep .. I probably did some damage HEH! All of this cardio/eating healthy/getting enough sleep is hopefully reversing all of that. I'll never do any of that again, that's for sure.. Chronic sleep depravation is like low-dose poison.

pc!

I get/used to get that as well. Lying in bed with the heart racing. Used to freak me out. What's worse is I have a pronounced/visible heart beat and it's freaky to actually see it going that fast at night when you're trying to relax.

Like you though I feel pretty good on 7-8 but also feel best when I get up at 6-6.30. Just means I need to go to bed at 10-10.30 which is pretty easy to comply with.