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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #1095 on: May 07, 2019, 12:52:55 am »
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cool to hear you're still training.

you had some great full run up jumps in that first vid. even some in the second vid. more dunk sessions with someone who knows how to throw half decent lobs (like that guy) would be a great idea.

in alot of that later footage, your jumps are looking very mechanical, very robotic. the stuff that apparently "looks slow" is great, and the 1-step over mechanical 1-step jumps are ridiculous - even though you got up good on a few.

you think too much. all someone has to do is tell you that your form/mechanics/plant look "slow" and then you'll change everything you're doing.

also tell Andy N to go fuck himself. "stop doing full approach jumps because your last two steps look slow", give me a break. maybe i'm reading too much into it, but it sounds like the typical garbage to me.

btw it's t0ddday method. t0ddday aka Tade.

your t0ddday method measurement is 1-step? I find that hard to believe. i've seen you way higher with a full run up than off of 1-step.



what's your strength at? is it improving? how often are you lifting? how often are you jumping? what's your diet/sleep like? are your jump sessions fatigued? do you have some peak days - well rested jump sessions?

your pattern is, when things are working, and actually starting to work better, you think they aren't working, or someone tells you you're too slow, and then you change things up and do something very different, or perhaps take extended time off, then come back to it etc.

get stronger, jump often, jump hard, stop thinking, and don't listen to anybody, including me, and especially people who tell you you're too slow in the plant or any of that absolutely idiotic bullshit. they are clueless. purge them from your brain.

your jumps look great.

GET STRONGER.

STOP THINKING.

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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #1096 on: May 07, 2019, 12:58:58 am »
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hahaa.. thanks Adarq..
u are always so quick to respond.
i will have to list out my current stats at a little time..
rushing to lunch session..

... I turn my head.... look out the windows.. and..
nice..
it started raining... literally 5 min before lunch time ...
no jumping today..
not even stand still now...
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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #1097 on: May 07, 2019, 01:08:43 am »
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Quote from: scoobychau on May 07, 2019, 12:58:58 am
hahaa.. thanks Adarq..
u are always so quick to respond.

lol np.

it pisses me off to see you get derailed by people.

be aggressive, don't overthink it, stay consistent, get stronger, jump hard, don't listen to people, and keep attacking.


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i will have to list out my current stats at a little time..
rushing to lunch session..

cool.

ya it's one "problem" of just posting the vids, it's like 10% of the picture.

also, if you're being aggressive & staying consistent, our feedback shouldn't be to fancy - that's the most important part of the formula. there's no magic anyone on here can offer, other than to get you to ignore people who give you bad advice, so that you can stay focused without listening to their cocktail of snakeoil.


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... I turn my head.... look out the windows.. and..
nice..
it started raining... literally 5 min before lunch time ...
no jumping today..
not even stand still now...

that's fine.

let the rain piss you off and jump tomorrow. that forced downtime can be a good thing, it can make you more aggressive the next day. if it's always raining then ya that's a problem, need to find a gym etc.. but i had MANY dunk sessions rained out, which would make me so damn aggressive the day after. I live in South Florida, it rains alot. I'd be all amp'd up to dunk and it'd get rained out. Then i'd get really antsy/pissed and jump extremely hard the next day.

that goes back to the mechanical theme.

go with the flow, and bring it.



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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #1098 on: May 07, 2019, 07:10:40 pm »
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Agree 100% with Adarq. Was also going to suggest dunking with a smaller ball (tennis ball/dodge ball/size 5 or 6 basketball). It's amazing the difference it makes when you focus less on the dunk and more on the jump with the ball and it builds good confidence.
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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #1099 on: June 05, 2019, 10:56:13 pm »
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190605 Suddenly...out of no where.   a good jump
Last week was raining all week long.
This week is all hot and sunny.. a little too hot to be exact.
I had been jumping EVERYday.... today is Wednesday, and is my 3rd session.

I just happen to be fasting also. so i have not eaten for about 26hrs.

with only 40 min today... I continue my 2 steps jump practice follow by full run up approach.

Honestly with 1 week off, I feel nothing sharp in the beginning of the week, 2 days ago.
But today I felt a little springy. My first few full run up felt good.  And this happened....


AT Rim 4 (the highest among all 4)
I believe this should well be the highest jump since the start of 2019...
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA2U1XRyfak" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA2U1XRyfak</a>
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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #1100 on: June 06, 2019, 07:40:45 am »
+1
Great jump scoob. How high is the rim?
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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #1101 on: June 06, 2019, 08:00:47 pm »
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Quote from: acole14 on June 06, 2019, 07:40:45 am
Great jump scoob. How high is the rim?
Rim 4 at 2.975m vs offical rim at 3.048
3cm different...
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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #1102 on: June 06, 2019, 11:53:54 pm »
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Quote from: scoobychau on June 06, 2019, 08:00:47 pm
Quote from: acole14 on June 06, 2019, 07:40:45 am
Great jump scoob. How high is the rim?
Rim 4 at 2.975m vs offical rim at 3.048
3cm different...

Great, so that's probably a 36'' jump or so. Nice.
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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #1103 on: June 07, 2019, 01:37:41 am »
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Quote from: scoobychau on June 05, 2019, 10:56:13 pm
190605 Suddenly...out of no where.   a good jump
Last week was raining all week long.
This week is all hot and sunny.. a little too hot to be exact.
I had been jumping EVERYday.... today is Wednesday, and is my 3rd session.

I just happen to be fasting also. so i have not eaten for about 26hrs.

with only 40 min today... I continue my 2 steps jump practice follow by full run up approach.

Honestly with 1 week off, I feel nothing sharp in the beginning of the week, 2 days ago.
But today I felt a little springy. My first few full run up felt good.  And this happened....


AT Rim 4 (the highest among all 4)
I believe this should well be the highest jump since the start of 2019...
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA2U1XRyfak" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA2U1XRyfak</a>

:ibjumping: very nice jump man! :headbang:

love the reaction too. get it.
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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #1104 on: June 07, 2019, 06:40:44 am »
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The ( rusty ) official forum vertec eye says 36''-37'' ( 89'' reach , 8''-9'' above rim , 117'' rim ).
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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #1105 on: June 10, 2019, 06:17:06 am »
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Quote from: vag on June 07, 2019, 06:40:44 am
The ( rusty ) official forum vertec eye says 36''-37'' ( 89'' reach , 8''-9'' above rim , 117'' rim ).

Thanks Vag...

Is Monday today, the weekend was busy and i missed my once a week Squat session.
Last Jump session with that PR jump at rim 4.... is stuck in my mind.

I mean.. with my whole wrist over Rim 4.... this mean.. I could very possible.. able to dunk on that rim 4... provided everything is right.

But the fact is, I had never landed a dunk on rim 3.   IF i could Land one on 4... I should Clearly land one at 3...

and If all 4 rims is conquered at this Low rim Court...

This would also mean.... and official 10' rim is very possible.

I am born in 1980... clock is ticking, knee is making noise....

Impossible.... vs I'm Possible...

My mind is playing games...
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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #1106 on: June 11, 2019, 04:49:11 am »
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I think that you have much better chances at this if you palm the ball. Yes, a perfect lob allows you to have the full armswing power and you only need to slap the ball in , 6'' above rim are enough with the absolutely perfect thrown lob and perfect timing. But that will probably never happen, the average lob-dunk is almost equal to cuffed, 10'' above are needed.
On the other hand, if you can palm the ball good, you may lose 1 or 2 inches from the limited arm swing, but you can dunk it without the wrist being above the rim. It all depends on how well you palm it but i'd say the average palmed dunk minimum is 7'' above rim. Adarq you are the lob master so correct me if im wrong.
Now i know you have small hands, but ive had many co-players that had too and they palmed it better than me. Also there are new balls out, built to stick in your hands. e.g. i recently saw this one at a store, i could palm it firmly with 2 fingertips: https://www.badensports.com/products/grip-tread-basketball
Not saying that is the course you should take, but give it some thought.
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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #1107 on: June 11, 2019, 05:30:33 am »
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counterpoint: jumpers like scoob (and me) need all the arm swing we can get. jumping that high for us is as dependent on technique as a high jump. messing with the technique at all, for example by holding something tenuously in one hand, is a recipe for not just losing inches but flailing around like an idiot.
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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #1108 on: June 11, 2019, 07:00:10 pm »
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i'm def on the lob boat (obviously lol). :ninja:

for a long time, my dunk sessions were all misses. the excitement of better quality misses, really amp'd me up. then one day i landed one. as soon as i landed one, it got easier.

other than needing less vert & being able to throw lobs more efficiently (better lob "mechanics" than most lol), the only difference I had with scoob is: i'd do all of my attempts on the 10' rim. even when i wasn't that close, i did that. i figured i'd maximize my chances for the occasional "amazing jump" or "perfect timing". it does happen, that's for sure. from my experience, it happens most often on a great miss. but sometimes it happens on a make and those are epic.

not saying scoob should do that but, sometimes you jump "as high" as your target. there's a point where psychologically it's too high, but also a point where it's too small. 10' for me was right at the sweet spot - i guess because that's all that mattered to me. lower rims didn't give me the kind of stimulus to really put out max vert. higher than 10's can sometimes make you feel like you're stuck to the floor. though, i dunked on a few higher ones which felt great, but it's weird when you know it's higher than 10'.

as for palming, i could barely palm & my hands are larger than scoobs. I absolutely suck at palm style dunking. feels like a completely different movement. first & foremost, i wanted to jump high. second was landing dunks. so palm/dribble up attempts wrecked the "jump as high as possible" component & made it very unenjoyable. eeh. :ninja:

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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #1109 on: June 12, 2019, 09:06:31 am »
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fair. all 3 of you are also 1 million times more reactive than me, i never really gained anything from a longer runup and arm swing. Just 1-2 steps and power it up was what worked for me.
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Speed form run : 4:02

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Quote from: adarqui on May 17, 2021, 04:57:01 pm
it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?
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