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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2015, 09:06:42 am »
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I love the NFL combine! I like to compare my numbers to similar sized athletes to see how far away I am lol!

By contrast....the NBA combine is a joke, specimen wise.
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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2015, 03:20:18 am »
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lol yea, i like to see how high and far these guys run, and how fast they are in the 40 yd dash. really beastly to jump 40+ inches from a standstill while weighing 200+ lbs. unfortunately there are no 6'0 155 lbs NFL players, so i cant compare size with them lol. and yea, nba players arent THAT explosive as everyone thinks, the NFL makes them look like WNBA athletes lol. you cant blame them though i guess, cause you need to have a lot more conditioning rather than pure explosiveness. also, basketball is requires more skill which you can use to make up any athletic disadvantages you have
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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2015, 11:57:59 am »
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Quote from: ChrisM on September 09, 2015, 09:06:42 am
I love the NFL combine! I like to compare my numbers to similar sized athletes to see how far away I am lol!

By contrast....the NBA combine is a joke, specimen wise.

The NBA combine is a joke because the cream of the crop don't bother doing it? But thankfully sometimes you get the player who was not hyped going into the draft and therefore does participate in the draft but blossoms into a great player and in that case, there is a draft result to look back on.
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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2015, 10:22:25 pm »
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The NBA combine is a joke because if people actually looked at the numbers they would stop screaming how some of these guys are the best, most explosive athletes alive. A HANDFUL of NBA guys are stupid bouncy/fast/etc.where the NFL has a handful PER TEAM.
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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2015, 06:05:23 am »
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It is the sport nature that dictates the combine numbers. Football ( handegg actually ) is much more physical, all you gotta do to excel is be a beast. Basketball on the other hand is highly technical, you can be an amazing athlete and still get trashed on court ( see James White ). Now if you've got the skills and you are an athletic beast, then even better for you ( see LBJ ). You can't be a good NFL player if you are not a beast though. So this differentiation has it's obvious result on each combine.
Obvious analysis is obvious.
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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2015, 08:30:55 am »
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agree, except the idea that football isn't technical is...wrong.
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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2015, 11:02:46 am »
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tbh I haven't seen much football. I thought it is just run and bump. In my mind the only technical part is the long distance passes, everything else is just out=strengthening/powering/sprinting your opponents. I would love to discover the technical side of this sport. Granted it is already VERY appealing without it, a technical side too makes me easily imagine why you go crazy about it.
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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2015, 01:11:03 pm »
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Quote from: vag on September 14, 2015, 11:02:46 am
tbh I haven't seen much football. I thought it is just run and bump. In my mind the only technical part is the long distance passes, everything else is just out=strengthening/powering/sprinting your opponents. I would love to discover the technical side of this sport. Granted it is already VERY appealing without it, a technical side too makes me easily imagine why you go crazy about it.

ah, then you are missing the great beauty that football has to offer. i would actually say that of all the sports i watch it is the most technically complex and reliant on precision and timing on a play-to-play basis. to give you an example, here are diagrams of how to run one of the most fundamental base plays in the sport, Power, against four different defensive setups:



the circles represent offensive players and the letters represent defensive players. the circle with a cross in it is the center, who's holding the ball at the beginning of the play. the black circle is the running back, who's gonna get the ball from the quarterback.

the offensive linemen have the second-most complicated jobs on the field, after the quarterback.

it is also, of course, about out-strenthening/powering/sprinting your opponent.
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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #38 on: September 14, 2015, 06:50:40 pm »
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^^ LBSS, correct me if I'm wrong but I think coordinating a team and plays is more tactics not technique. Technical would be how the running back positions his body while running, taking a hit, etc. Or how the linemen push off or hold their opponent from getting to the QB.

I watch some football but I'm basing that idea on soccer terms. So I may be wrong. My thinking is technique involves indvidual skill and tactics involves the team as a unit.

I also want to add that football players work on their combine skills specifically with combine specific coaches and I doubt basketball players do. Not like their numbers wouldn't be sick as it is.
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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #39 on: September 14, 2015, 07:53:10 pm »
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Quote from: undoubtable on September 14, 2015, 06:50:40 pm
^^ LBSS, correct me if I'm wrong but I think coordinating a team and plays is more tactics not technique. Technical would be how the running back positions his body while running, taking a hit, etc. Or how the linemen push off or hold their opponent from getting to the QB.

I watch some football but I'm basing that idea on soccer terms. So I may be wrong. My thinking is technique involves indvidual skill and tactics involves the team as a unit.

I also want to add that football players work on their combine skills specifically with combine specific coaches and I doubt basketball players do. Not like their numbers wouldn't be sick as it is.

the precision required to run the tactics properly requires extremely refined technique. the pulling guard in Power has to move very quickly around several other huge men who are all pushing the shit out of each other, without tripping over them, while staying aware of what several other players on his team and the other team are doing. receivers have to run routes exactly to where they're supposed to go and when. and so on. every position is more technical than it looks, even running back.

trust me, as a fan who has spent the last five years cringing as my team's players mostly failed to develop the skills required to play their positions well, technique is really important and it has to be taught/learned.
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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2015, 11:39:02 pm »
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Quote from: LBSS on September 14, 2015, 07:53:10 pm
Quote from: undoubtable on September 14, 2015, 06:50:40 pm
^^ LBSS, correct me if I'm wrong but I think coordinating a team and plays is more tactics not technique. Technical would be how the running back positions his body while running, taking a hit, etc. Or how the linemen push off or hold their opponent from getting to the QB.

I watch some football but I'm basing that idea on soccer terms. So I may be wrong. My thinking is technique involves indvidual skill and tactics involves the team as a unit.

I also want to add that football players work on their combine skills specifically with combine specific coaches and I doubt basketball players do. Not like their numbers wouldn't be sick as it is.

the precision required to run the tactics properly requires extremely refined technique. the pulling guard in Power has to move very quickly around several other huge men who are all pushing the shit out of each other, without tripping over them, while staying aware of what several other players on his team and the other team are doing. receivers have to run routes exactly to where they're supposed to go and when. and so on. every position is more technical than it looks, even running back.

trust me, as a fan who has spent the last five years cringing as my team's players mostly failed to develop the skills required to play their positions well, technique is really important and it has to be taught/learned.

Yea I got you and I agree. Patriots come to mind and they don't seem to ever have ridiculous athletes, just a combination of solid players that fit and know the system well.

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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2015, 08:45:58 pm »
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got back onto the court for the first time in a long time. no problems shooting around, and then i went for some rim grabs. no pain off LR, but still getting pain in my left knee off RL. hmm it might be that im so used to a really knee dominant RL plant? i seem to be a lot more flexible and hip dominant when i plant LR, and there is like no pain. in fact, i actually felt a little tingling on my right knee planting LR. anyone have any insight?
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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2015, 10:10:19 pm »
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hmm, no pain when i drop into a full bodyweight squat. will probably be hitting deadlifts soon to see whether they still hurt or not
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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2015, 10:36:27 pm »
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it's weird that you'd be getting pain on your trail leg on DLRVJ. can't think of why it would be, other than, "sometimes joints just hurt for a while," which is the story of my life.
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Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« Reply #44 on: September 21, 2015, 12:35:05 am »
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i see. well when i get back to training im gonna be all about hip dominant exercises. hopefully can broad jump 9 ft+ before returning to squatting again.
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