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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4695 on: September 25, 2018, 11:01:20 am »
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lol maybe we will. for the time being, give me desert summer over subtropical autumn any day.

- run 8.60 km in 44:28
had been getting too cute with last few runs, need to remind myself that the bread and butter remains LISS.

- stretch

seven-day total is 54.6 km and i'm on track for my first ever calendar week over 50 km. somehow despite several seven-day stretches over 50km i haven't hit that number from a sunday to a saturday yet.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2018, 11:02:51 am by LBSS »
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4696 on: September 26, 2018, 10:53:20 pm »
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last night

worked until 8 PM, was wiped out by the time i got home. thought for two seconds about running then said, fuck it, and had dinner and a beer. back on the horse tonight inshallah.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4697 on: September 27, 2018, 12:30:08 pm »
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- run 8.55 km in 42:39
unplanned day of rest + slightly cooler weather = sub-5:00 relaxed pace. noice.

- stretch
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4698 on: September 28, 2018, 11:20:35 am »
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- run 6.63 km in 36:12 [light strides x ~100m, 170m, 150m at the end]
forced slow pace and kept it short because plan is 3km time trial (or maybe two-mile test, i.e. 3.21 km) tomorrow.

- stretch

i have had a very shitty week at work. in an unusually bad mood, letting it affect me to an unusual degree. not sure why.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4699 on: September 29, 2018, 11:02:56 am »
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- run x 7.21 km [warm up x 2 km; time trial x 3km in 11:48 :personal-record:; cool down x 2 km]

- stretch

woot! read once that a 3 km time trial is a decent benchmark of fitness for a 5k race (i.e. competing with other people). meant to do this on the track but ended up having to do it on the road for logistical reasons, which meant a couple of steep-ish climbs but also that it i ended up a few meters lower than i started. calling it a wash. i set it up on my watch as a 2-mile test but hit 3km right as i got to a major road and had to stop to not, you know, get hit by a car. once i could start again i was dead so i finished slow. so i'll just let myself be happy that i hit the 3km target. next time i do a 2-mile test i'll either do it on the track or turn right onto the street right before the big road.
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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4700 on: September 29, 2018, 01:01:10 pm »
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- run x 7.21 km [warm up x 2 km; time trial x 3km in 11:48 :personal-record:; cool down x 2 km]

- stretch

woot! read once that a 3 km time trial is a decent benchmark of fitness for a 5k race (i.e. competing with other people). meant to do this on the track but ended up having to do it on the road for logistical reasons, which meant a couple of steep-ish climbs but also that it i ended up a few meters lower than i started. calling it a wash. i set it up on my watch as a 2-mile test but hit 3km right as i got to a major road and had to stop to not, you know, get hit by a car. once i could start again i was dead so i finished slow. so i'll just let myself be happy that i hit the 3km target. next time i do a 2-mile test i'll either do it on the track or turn right onto the street right before the big road.

yup. a hard 2-mile effort carries over to 5k race pace.

i'd rather run a hard 1-2 mile in training and race 5k, than do 3 mile tempo (or intervals) and race 5k. i've done the former alot, works well in my experience.

that "cooper's test" number is good as well: how far you can go in 2 miles. I've often raced 5k's like that, seeing how far I can go in 12 minutes, then I blow up, but when I do that it always ends up being a good 5k time (for me).

you're "more explosive than aerobic", i'd imagine, so improving that 1-2 mile will eventually be very effective.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4701 on: October 01, 2018, 01:15:42 am »
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^^^no doubt. the mental aspect of it is really key, easy to see that in retrospect as it was with the races. how does my brain handle discomfort? how can i help it handle discomfort better?

had a persistent headache yesterday starting in early afternoon that is still with me this morning. didn't run as a consequence. hoping it'll dissipate over the course of the day today.
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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4702 on: October 01, 2018, 04:53:40 am »
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Great 3km time. Where does that put you for a predicted 5km?

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4703 on: October 01, 2018, 09:28:16 am »
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Great 3km time. Where does that put you for a predicted 5km?

it's 19:40 pace. running calculators predict 20:16-20:20 but i was alone and not actually racing, meaning no competitors. i think i could hang on to <4:10 pace for another 2 km with enough motivation to do so, which would put me under 20:00.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4704 on: October 01, 2018, 12:20:58 pm »
+3
- run 10.05 km in 53:41

- stretch

nice and easy, nice and easy. 
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4705 on: October 02, 2018, 11:58:20 am »
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- run 8.22 km in 40:01

- stretch

tried to keep it relaxed and chill but couldn't slow down past 5:00 pace, ended up at 4:52 average. also there's a guy i've seen once before who runs super hard in a shalwar kameez, kind of interval style. he showed up about 6 km in and would pass me and then slow down and then speed up again when i passed him. i just kept running along steadily until the last lap, when he went to pass me and i took off just to keep pace with him. he smiled and sped up, and i sped up, and we sprinted for a bit, and then i went too fast for too long and he got tired. i gave him a thumbs-up over the shoulder as he slowed to a walk and i kept going. it was fun.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4706 on: October 03, 2018, 12:33:00 am »
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- run 8.22 km in 40:01

- stretch

tried to keep it relaxed and chill but couldn't slow down past 5:00 pace, ended up at 4:52 average. also there's a guy i've seen once before who runs super hard in a shalwar kameez, kind of interval style. he showed up about 6 km in and would pass me and then slow down and then speed up again when i passed him. i just kept running along steadily until the last lap, when he went to pass me and i took off just to keep pace with him. he smiled and sped up, and i sped up, and we sprinted for a bit, and then i went too fast for too long and he got tired. i gave him a thumbs-up over the shoulder as he slowed to a walk and i kept going. it was fun.

hah that's cool.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4707 on: October 03, 2018, 12:48:38 am »
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^^^no doubt. the mental aspect of it is really key, easy to see that in retrospect as it was with the races. how does my brain handle discomfort? how can i help it handle discomfort better?

had a persistent headache yesterday starting in early afternoon that is still with me this morning. didn't run as a consequence. hoping it'll dissipate over the course of the day today.

right that's the thing. you can be in the "same exact physical shape" and run/race considerably faster/slower due to the mental aspect of it. sometimes you have the "fight" in you, to grind it out and go right at the pain, sometimes you don't. it's good to test the fight somewhat often (once every 2 weeks at minimum?). So just like what you did, hitting a hard ~2 mile at 5k pace or a little faster, hitting a mile at much faster than 5k pace, pre-fatiguing a bit then hitting a hard mile etc. So, avoiding the actual race distance but, testing yourself at subsets of that distance. It's not something one has to do all the time but, sometimes when you feel good (or bad and just want to push it while feeling bad), it's good to dial in on something that's going to "really hurt" towards the end and just get after it.

There's lots of "callusing" analogies with running. That's definitely what it feels like to me. Sometimes you just want to avoid stuff that builds up the callus, then you realize you've wasted lots of time (definitely applies to me), because the stuff that "causes" the callus can be pretty scary. I'm scared before all of my hard 800m-1 mile efforts etc. I have to really get my mind right before I can even take the first stride, like tonight etc - my warmup was crazy slow, but that's because I was just trying to clear my mind and focus on 1 task, knowing it would be painful at some point. Every speed session I do, is like that. lmao. No matter what it is, kicking it off feels like "fear". Then you just "go" and boom. I'll actually comment in my journal about something that's been helping me the last few weeks.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4708 on: October 03, 2018, 01:02:58 am »
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mental callusing, i like that.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4709 on: October 03, 2018, 01:35:50 am »
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mental callusing, i like that.

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