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T0ddday

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3555 on: April 10, 2016, 09:08:09 am »
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To be honest the rationale behind your suggestion doesn't really make sense. Ever heard of wave loading on something like a squat going like 70% x 3, 80% x 3, 75% x 3, 85% x 3 etc. or even the method of french contrast which relys completely on going from weighted to unweighted to weighted again. I think you can achieve good progress with applying methods like that imho.

The squat examply was an analogy and maybe a poor one like that.  Do realize that there is literally zero evidence for eave loading or contrast methods or the million other sets and rep schemes in comparison to good old linear progression...  Anyhow jumping max vertical with increased weight on your body is a different beast all together... be my guest if you want to play with loaded jumps followed by unloaded jumps at max effort and back to loaded jumps...  ive seen over 30 athletes now use weighted jumping as its become popular here... ive also seen quite a few back injuries and poor progress from loading schemes like the ones you describe...  weighted jumping works, if you think you can make it work better for you give it a try and hit jumps.in the 50s
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3556 on: April 10, 2016, 11:57:06 am »
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I don't know if there is evidence or not and I don't really care. Is there empirical evidence against it? ;)
I just don't think there is only one right way to go about training and you oftentimes make it seem like your way of programing is the only right way to do so. I'm not saying french contrast or wave loading are important and beneficial training methods to do but I'm not in the position to say it's bad either because I simply haven't tried it myself over a long enough period. That's it.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3557 on: April 10, 2016, 12:56:28 pm »
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hm. explanation has the ring of satisfying logic but i don't see why warming up with the vest, taking it off for ME jumps, and then putting it on for other exercises that are not running jumps -- and just to move around -- would necessarily be dangerous. i do see why wearing it for some running jumps, then not, then back on again could be dangerous.

at any rate, t0ddday, any feedback on the MB throws?
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3558 on: April 10, 2016, 12:59:18 pm »
+1
head hurting this morning, my first hangover in a while. i didn't even drink that much yesterday, and i drank plenty of water and stopped drinking fairly early, 10PM. i stayed up late finishing re-reading harry potter and the methods of rationality (cool guy right here) so maybe that had something to do with it? vexing.

AFTERNOON

WEIGHT: ???
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: right toe a little
MENTAL STATE: good

- warm up

- DLRVJ x 12-15
tried a few lobs but the dudes who were tossing them were wayyy off. got up pretty good, not quite as high as two weeks ago but probably second-highest session ever

- bound-bound jump x 3,3

- squat 345 x 1,1; 315 x 1,1,1
meant to do 335, was surprised how heavy it felt then realized i'm dumb. 315 flew up.

- superset x 2
-- DB push press 50s x 10
-- pull up x 10;5+3+2

- MB OH toss x 8
« Last Edit: April 10, 2016, 06:45:28 pm by LBSS »
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3559 on: April 10, 2016, 09:20:54 pm »
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some vids today. apologies for the wonky flashing on the dimmer slow-mo vids. it's dim in that court. also for the dude in yellow shorts who stood in precisely the worst place for him to stand. thanks bro.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lDYeILskmo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lDYeILskmo</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfPt1bFwUgU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfPt1bFwUgU</a>
being able to grab with two hands pretty regularly is new within the past couple of weeks.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww5561MWSRs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww5561MWSRs</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9wTFPEIDro" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9wTFPEIDro</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z68jdq_iueg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z68jdq_iueg</a>
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3560 on: April 10, 2016, 09:53:32 pm »
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some really nice jumps in there, absolutely loved that two hand rim grab.. that's a dunk-jump for sure. Also that one where yellow-shorts blocked most of it looked really high.. are you getting more amp'd up when people are around?

do you know if you can record in 720p? i'm getting 280p on youtube.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3561 on: April 10, 2016, 10:49:35 pm »
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Your last few steps look hella smooth compared to the last lot of vids I saw.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3562 on: April 11, 2016, 01:09:57 am »
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I paused it right here:



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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3563 on: April 11, 2016, 02:39:50 am »
+1
The BBJs look great
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3564 on: April 11, 2016, 02:40:22 am »
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I paused it right here:



 :o :o :o

#squatDring
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3565 on: April 11, 2016, 03:23:59 am »
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Damn, son. getting up there! Dunks to come soon .. those are great jumps.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3566 on: April 11, 2016, 08:22:07 am »
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thanks y'all  :D  also, lol acole/raptor. squatDR status.

some really nice jumps in there, absolutely loved that two hand rim grab.. that's a dunk-jump for sure. Also that one where yellow-shorts blocked most of it looked really high.. are you getting more amp'd up when people are around?

do you know if you can record in 720p? i'm getting 280p on youtube.

sick man. pC!

yeah the yellow shorts jump was around 36.5: base of palm but not quite wrist. very high for me but not quite PR-level. not sure it's the other people, i've just been getting up higher in general. but my highest jumps have all come with other people around so dunno. small sample size.

will see if i can up the resolution on the vids. not sure how to do that but i think the phone can even shoot 4k. should be able to shoot 720.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2016, 08:23:49 am by LBSS »
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3567 on: April 11, 2016, 08:47:00 am »
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I haven't jumped in a gym in... ...... 2 years I think. And before that I haven't jumped in a gym for 5 years.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3568 on: April 11, 2016, 03:06:16 pm »
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thanks y'all  :D  also, lol acole/raptor. squatDR status.

some really nice jumps in there, absolutely loved that two hand rim grab.. that's a dunk-jump for sure. Also that one where yellow-shorts blocked most of it looked really high.. are you getting more amp'd up when people are around?

do you know if you can record in 720p? i'm getting 280p on youtube.

sick man. pC!

yeah the yellow shorts jump was around 36.5: base of palm but not quite wrist. very high for me but not quite PR-level. not sure it's the other people, i've just been getting up higher in general. but my highest jumps have all come with other people around so dunno. small sample size.

will see if i can up the resolution on the vids. not sure how to do that but i think the phone can even shoot 4k. should be able to shoot 720.

4k wtf? that would be fun to see.

one reason why I keep asking about it.. on your next PR jumps (38+) AND on your first dunk caught on vid, don't you want to see it in 4k or 720p? in all its glory?

 :ninja:

if you are recording in 720p/4k currently, and it's hitting youtube at 280p, then it's the software you're using to render the videos. You could always test by uploading the raw footage (which it seems like what you do already) to youtube. I suspect it's how you're actually recording and not how the video software (if you're using any) is downgrading quality.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3569 on: April 11, 2016, 03:07:02 pm »
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I haven't jumped in a gym in... ...... 2 years I think. And before that I haven't jumped in a gym for 5 years.

i miss jumping in that nba-level gym nearby.. best gym i've ever jumped in. floor is so beautiful ;d