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hahaha the brand is asics, man!

Quote from: seifullaah73 on September 14, 2016, 06:11:16 pm

thanks adarq  .

These are the shoes I wear for running. They are very light and the materials are very thin. They are asics gel mens running shoes. I don't know the exact brand.

These are the closest ones I could find that almost same as the ones I ran in and still run in.


those shoes look nice.

I rather wear something that covers my leg lol, don't like to show my knees out. I was looking at running trousers and they look like the baggy trousers I wore lol or the tights.

ye, I would prefer if you would remove that image  but thanks for the comment it was all thanks to yours and toddays help and the others members on this site. 

EDIT: maybe those extra insta gains I can save for the competition

damn your shoes are 12 oz!!!!!

4-5 oz vs 12 oz is such a major difference.. all of that extra padding + extra heel support in that asic shoe is just not needed when you sprint.

pc!

lol I didn't think you could get shoes lighter than that lol. Those were my luxury shoes haha I couldn't afford anything more than this.

it's possible that you might be usain bolt if you got some ~4-5 oz flats.. 

I hope so. 

yeah lighter shoes, like cross country racing flats, tend to be cheaper. you can get a good pair for ~$50, and if you dig around a bit probably for $35 on sale. they're worth saving up for even if that's a stretch for you. i think i speak for a lot of members of the forum when i say that shoes really do make a difference.

some examples:
-nike zoom waffle racer (preferred shoe of adarqui himself for many years)
-adidas adizero takumi
-mizuno wave musha (i have had several pairs of these, love them, ran in them last night)
-saucony kilkenny
-new balance xc700

I am ordering the takumis today, boost+180g is a very hard to beat combination.

nice!!

i still have yet to get a shoe with a boost sole. i know you love it.

yeah lighter shoes, like cross country racing flats, tend to be cheaper. you can get a good pair for ~$50, and if you dig around a bit probably for $35 on sale. they're worth saving up for even if that's a stretch for you. i think i speak for a lot of members of the forum when i say that shoes really do make a difference.

some examples:
-nike zoom waffle racer (preferred shoe of adarqui himself for many years)
-adidas adizero takumi
-mizuno wave musha (i have had several pairs of these, love them, ran in them last night)
-saucony kilkenny
-new balance xc700

yup... when I put on my XC flats, I immediately feel bouncy, ready to sprint/jump etc.. If I were to put on basketball shoes, dress shoes, heavy running shoes and such -> I don't get that feeling.

my saucony shay xc4's feel best when sprinting .. these shoes feel more like a short sprint shoe than a long distance shoe. They also feel pretty awesome when doing reactive stuff & SLRVJ's.

my new balance 5000v2's are crazy light (~3.4 oz), but, they have some small heel elevation.. so I dont feel like sprinting/jumping in them. When I run in them, I tend to want to run more heel->toe, so i've stopped wearing them & default to my saucony shay xc4's (since im trying to get better with midfoot running).

my nb xc900v2's are in between. you can run midfoot in them fine, sprint, heel->toe, jump, etc.

but bottom line, if i want to sprint as fast as possible and/or just make more use of my forefoot, my saucony shay xc4's are the shoes I go with.. so I guess that's why they've slowly become my #1 shoe.

I'm waiting on my brooks mach 17's to arrive because they look similar to my saucony's and are ~1.2 oz lighter - which makes a significant difference when distance running. We'll see.

so ya shoes matter.. I can't imagine sprinting in the shoes seifullaah is wearing.

finally as far as cost goes, flats are waaaay cheaper than other shoes. I get my saucony shay xc4's for $25.


the pocket standard:

just think about it though.. I can basically put one of my flats in my pocket................ that's important. Think about how light and minimal that is.. yet still strong enough to withstand the forces of sprinting etc.

If you can't put your shoe in your pocket, it's probably not great for sprinting.

We want just enough support to protect our feet and allow us to produce maximal force.. I'd sprint/jump/run barefoot if it was safe to do so at maximal effort.

So I was on a new routine, which I adopted the 3 point stance. It was first time I tried to ensure I did it accurately but not sure if this is how it should be done.

The way I did it was, The way I did the 3 point stance was stand near the line, move about 5 inch away from line, place the knee of the back leg in line with my front foot, rockback onto my back feet to ensure the back feet wont slip placed firmly on the ground, then I would lift my hips, ensure proper leg angle front about 90 and back around 100. Lift my left hand to my waist and then explode out.

I did the same warm up as the one during the test day. Put vest on did warm up and then took it off for the runs.

Warm up
   same
   box jumps w/ 5kg dumbells
   sprint arm swings /w 5kg dumbells
   gradual 30m sprints to 50%

Workout
   30m sprints at 3 point stance x 3
      1. 4.66
      2. 4.56
      3. 4.52
 
   60m sprints w/ 3 point stance x 1
      1. 8.43

Cool down
   same no stretches required just down hill walk

Comment
First time attempting on doing an ME 30m sprints using a 3 point stance. I didn't expect the time to this bad I think it was because of my right hand is on the floor I have to explode out and then as soon as my hands are off the ground I reposition my finger on the stop watch and press start and then stop at the end. So I decided to switch to left hand, which is my weak (im right handed) so there was the awkwardness in pressing the start and stop of the stopwatch and problably pressed it at the wrong time either to early start or late stop towards the end. So maybe I should run without stopwatch until after.

Date: 22/09/2016
BW: 65.9kg
Soreness: none

Condition: windy, cooler with some sun shine at the end of the training, some little water drops fell but stopped or it continued but I didnt realize as it was very small.

Warm up
   Uphill walk 20min
   A walk, skip and sprint 2 x 20m
   Lateral leg swings x 10
   seated crossed legged iliopsoas stretch x 10 sec

Workout
   5 x 30m sprints 3 point stance 50% intensity
          - Just to keep myself active and as a stepping stone to my next intense workout to prevent burning my cns out like it happened last time after 2 maximal effort sessions, so coach recommended alternate days workout with a pattern of easy work, intense work e.g. day 1 - high intensity  day 3 - light work,   day 5 - high intensity ....
 
           - Still trying to get used to the 3 point stance, before I kept my feet close to the line, but now I brought my lead leg 10-12 inches behind the start line and the other foot behind till my knee in line with my front foot. I raise my hip up bring my left hand to my hips and then explode out with both feets.

Cool down
   light stretch
   catch bus back to town

Comment
When I was doing the seated iliopsoas stretch where you sit on bench or seat and I put my left ankle on my right thing, forming a 4 shape, when I stretch it by leaning forward and lifting my right foot onto the toes, it doesn't pain but rather the hip of my left leg, feels restricted and I cannot stretch it as much as my right leg, I can feel the restriction in my left hip.

Also I decided to weigh my shoes also just to get proper weight of it  it was 300g, 10 oz. I have decided to train in these and when in competition I will put on those super light sprinting shoes or spikes. But I think this makes my workout very effective in adding slight resistance if not alot.

Rating: 7/10   

maybe, maybe not.. it can change mechanics quite a bit.. This is kind of similar to maxent not wanting to test his vert etc -> it would be nice to just wear some lighter/competition shoes in training (sometimes or all of the time, but at least SOMETIMES) to see where you are at. Going with heavier shoes in training, and then much lighter shoes for competition makes some sense "logically" (you may be quite a bit faster), or.. you may not use the lighter shoes up to their potential -> ie, you haven't mastered your tools.

If you were training in 5 oz shoes and competing in 4 oz shoes, then i'd say for sure, that'd probably result in a slight advantage.. but 10 oz to ~4 oz is a really huge difference.

in the end it's always good to believe that doing this will help, so hopefully I didn't ruin it for you.. there's a great chance it will.. but all I know is, if you master your tools in training & recreate alot of the same "environment" as competition (other than the adrenaline factor), everything will feel alot more comfortable come competition time.

if you wore lighter shoes (competition sprint shoes) in training more often, you'd probably on average be running faster, master your tools more, ingrain even better mechanics etc.. can't imagine that wouldn't be a good thing overall.

just something to think about perhaps.

pc!!

These are the shoes I am thinking of buying but will have to save up. Are these shoes good. When I am presented with options, my overanalysis ocd kicks in and it makes it hard to chose, as I try to look for the best even though I just need a light shoe.

Adidas adizero feather

Puma faas 100 R v 1.5

Saucony shay look good but impossible to get from the UK.

new balance 1400 too expensive

These are the shoes I am thinking of buying but will have to save up. Are these shoes good. When I am presented with options, my overanalysis ocd kicks in and it makes it hard to chose, as I try to look for the best even though I just need a light shoe.

Adidas adizero feather

Puma faas 100 R v 1.5

Saucony shay look good but impossible to get from the UK.

new balance 1400 too expensive

i personally don't like any of those tbh.. i'd search for "spikeless track flats".

I also don't like the idea of re-engineering an existing shoe by removing pieces of it etc.. their are shoes built specifically for sprinting, middle distance runs, etc.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=spikeless+track+flats&tbm=shop

you see the difference in those shoes, compared to what you listed? Not sure if you see the same shoes as me but, you should see much lighter & cheaper shoes, also with no heels.. you definitely don't want a shoe with heel padding. You are doing short sprints, not long runs.. If you were training for long runs (half marathon, marathon etc) then heel padding is common-place, but not for 60m-800m, and even 1500-1600m.

these are the shoes I have experience with:

saucony shay xc4:

pictured elsewhere.. my personal preference.



new balance xc900v2:



if you can find these, it's a good option.. they are also extremely comfortable.



brooks mach 17:





I personally would get something cheap, spikeless ... but which also has a variation with spikes - so in the future/competitions you're basically wearing the same shoe, except one has spikes. Saucony shay xc4's have spikes, so if I wanted to get some of those to run on a proper track, i'd probably feel really comfortable in them.



It's obviously a hard decision picking shoes, but, you just need to search for "flats", "track flats", "spikeless track flats" etc... You can find them really cheap, much cheaper than most shoes.. So if you're unsure, just buy one of the cheapest pairs of flats you can find, just to see how they feel.. Eventually you could purchase some higher-end spikeless flats if you love em`. FWIW, i've loved every track flat i've ever worn, except for my NB xc700v3's -> they are way too thick in the sole.