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Raptor · « **Reply #420 on:** May 28, 2015, 03:22:53 pm »

I was expecting a one-leg jump judging by the speed of your approach. I'll never understand how people can deal with such high speeds when going off two without getting completely overloaded in the plant. My knees and quad tendons would blow out after such a tremendous "stop" off two.

Dreyth · « **Reply #421 on:** May 28, 2015, 03:29:19 pm »

Quote from: Raptor on May 28, 2015, 03:22:53 pm

I was expecting a one-leg jump judging by the speed of your approach. I'll never understand how people can deal with such high speeds when going off two without getting completely overloaded in the plant. My knees and quad tendons would blow out after such a tremendous "stop" off two.

could it have something to do with the fact that i used to be a one legged jumper? i switched 5 years ago, at around the same time that i was able to tomahawk for the first time.

i wonder how high i would get off of one leg actually. maybe i'll try it out sometime. I bet it'll feel really awkward at first though.

ChrisM · « **Reply #422 on:** May 28, 2015, 04:06:19 pm »

Awesome!!! You've definitely got a tomahawk in you easy. For some reason thats one dunk I struggle to bit consistently. :/

Dreyth · « **Reply #423 on:** May 28, 2015, 04:49:33 pm »

Quote from: ChrisM on May 28, 2015, 04:06:19 pm

Awesome!!! You've definitely got a tomahawk in you easy. For some reason thats one dunk I struggle to bit consistently. :/

i landed two very clean and thunderous ones two weeks ago. i find that tomahawks are pretty hard to make at times... even though you can get high enough to do em, its a little hard timing the cockback and actual slam itself.

ChrisM · « **Reply #424 on:** May 28, 2015, 08:13:54 pm »

Yup...I always wait to long and end up trying dunking on the way down :/ sucks.

LBSS · « **Reply #425 on:** May 29, 2015, 12:31:35 am »

i'll kill you both.

Raptor · « **Reply #426 on:** May 29, 2015, 07:01:39 am »

Quote from: Dreyth on May 28, 2015, 03:29:19 pm

Quote from: Raptor on May 28, 2015, 03:22:53 pm
I was expecting a one-leg jump judging by the speed of your approach. I'll never understand how people can deal with such high speeds when going off two without getting completely overloaded in the plant. My knees and quad tendons would blow out after such a tremendous "stop" off two.

could it have something to do with the fact that i used to be a one legged jumper? i switched 5 years ago, at around the same time that i was able to tomahawk for the first time.

i wonder how high i would get off of one leg actually. maybe i'll try it out sometime. I bet it'll feel really awkward at first though.

No, because if that was the case I would jump off two at high speeds. But I don't. I think it has more to do with quad strength and quad tendon ability to load a ton of tension without feeling it will break and signaling the CNS an overload has occured and that it must shut down the jump.

Think about it - I collapse even when I do consecutive high hurdles. If there's something quick when I can't load the quads slowly and under control I stiffen up and shut down. So it must be something about the quad tendons in my opinion.

Dreyth · « **Reply #427 on:** May 29, 2015, 09:31:15 am »

^^ Well I definitely have strong quads. Particularly VMO's too, thanks to ATG squats. Aren't the VMO's are activated mostly at near full flexion and near full extension of the knees?

Now that I think about it, when I was a one legged jumper, I went through a period of one or two years where whenever I would drive hard to the basket, my knees would collapse as well! Back then I was only squatting to parallel. There could be some connection here.

Raptor · « **Reply #428 on:** May 29, 2015, 12:32:28 pm »

Well I can barely squat 105x5 in the high bar squat while weighing 90 kg. Squatted 150x1 a week ago in the low bar squat. People say I shouldn't worry about a few cm position of the bar on the back. Maybe they'd like to explain this difference then.

It seems that the same mobility and lack of foot dorsiflexion issues that prevent me from bending my knees well and stable in a one leg jump also prevent me from squatting well in a high bar squat, even with Olympic lifting shoes on.

Also, in the high bar squat I break at the knees first whereas in the low bar squat I initiate the descent going back with the hips. So it's not just the bar position, it's a whole different movement.

Funny thing is that when I did low bar squats a week ago I got pretty severe VMO soreness. So weird.

By the way - how difficult are half squats for you? For me they're maybe more difficult than full squats. That reversal point for me is hell and I feel a huge knee overload.

Dreyth · « **Reply #429 on:** May 29, 2015, 01:18:11 pm »

Quote from: Raptor on May 29, 2015, 12:32:28 pm

Well I can barely squat 105x5 in the high bar squat while weighing 90 kg. Squatted 150x1 a week ago in the low bar squat. People say I shouldn't worry about a few cm position of the bar on the back. Maybe they'd like to explain this difference then.

It seems that the same mobility and lack of foot dorsiflexion issues that prevent me from bending my knees well and stable in a one leg jump also prevent me from squatting well in a high bar squat, even with Olympic lifting shoes on.

Also, in the high bar squat I break at the knees first whereas in the low bar squat I initiate the descent going back with the hips. So it's not just the bar position, it's a whole different movement.

Funny thing is that when I did low bar squats a week ago I got pretty severe VMO soreness. So weird.

By the way - how difficult are half squats for you? For me they're maybe more difficult than full squats. That reversal point for me is hell and I feel a huge knee overload.

yea break at the knees in a high bar squat. its definitely a different movement... for us at least.
half squats are easier for me. i haven't tried them in ages so if i were to try repping 355lb half squats i would probably have trouble, but im sure if i switched over for a month i could rep 385 half squats once my CNS gets used to em.

Raptor · « **Reply #430 on:** May 29, 2015, 02:28:15 pm »

What if you low bar squat, just for the heck of it? What happens?

Dreyth · « **Reply #431 on:** May 29, 2015, 03:39:03 pm »

Quote from: Raptor on May 29, 2015, 02:28:15 pm

What if you low bar squat, just for the heck of it? What happens?

I squat heavier. I used to low bar squat a while back for like a year. My squat went up by around 30lbs i think. Increased my squat for a while. Switched back and it dropped by 30lbs. Both times I was squatting to parallel.

This was way back early high school i think. My journal where i was low bar squatting was on TheJump101. Remember that place? I found out about adarq.org from there.

Edit: ummm.... http://www.terminalvertical.com/ (NSFW, WTF?)

Raptor · « **Reply #432 on:** May 29, 2015, 05:59:09 pm »

I'm liking that site much better the way it is now!

I didn't get terminal vertical, but I was on the vertical summit.

LBSS · « **Reply #433 on:** May 30, 2015, 12:55:29 am »

hahaha that's so weird.

Dreyth · « **Reply #434 on:** May 30, 2015, 01:27:05 am »

Quote from: Raptor on May 29, 2015, 05:59:09 pm

I'm liking that site much better the way it is now!

I didn't get terminal vertical, but I was on the vertical summit.

The vertical summit. THATS the one.
TheJump101 was before TVS. My log with low bar squats wouldve been on there if TVS was still up.

Ummm... Www.theverticalsummit.com

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