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« Reply #855 on: July 10, 2015, 12:26:26 pm »
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Lol Thanks LBSS thats awesome.

Raptor....it does take the fun out of it. I never have these issues when playing pickup (usually) because Im very selective about who i play with. But these rec leagues...anyone can sign up. Just gotta keep your head on a swivel and now that sometimes...its not worth it and just bail. Shitty but its life. Im not going to stop doing something i like because I may get injured. Thats a horrible way to live. If i have a career ending injury then itll happen. It will suck ass but shit happens. Cant let it run your life tho!

Thanks also guys on the marriage thing! Shes amazing and im definitely ready to have her by my side always!

As for the back...it feels MUCH improved this morning. Still stiff a tad but the pain and soreness is gone. Going to heat it up and stretch again and repeat that throughout the day.
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« Reply #856 on: July 13, 2015, 06:05:23 pm »
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Did some ehhh deadlifts Friday after some more icing and heat.

135 x5, 225 x3, 315, 365, 415, 315 x5. No assistance work on the legs...didnt want to stress the back to much just test it and see how it felt Saturday.

Was a little tight but not sore or painful. More ice and and heat. Played a little Sunday and it felt ok sooo


Squatted today.

135 x5, 225 x3, 315 x1, 365 x1, 385 x1, 365 x2, 365 x2, 315 x5/x5/x5.

Did a 2 circuits of reverse lunges and back extensions along with core work and box jumps. Had to skip calf raises. Gym packed. :/

Back feels good and knee is good after is sufficiently warmed up but without a warm up...ehhh. But it seems to be getting better slowly.
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« Reply #857 on: July 17, 2015, 09:21:43 pm »
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Lets see....did some back, bis, little bit of shoulders and some core on Wednesday instead of Tuesday....gahh. Had to skip the speed day or do it real late Wed and see if i could recover in time for the game Thursday.  Then got off work later than usual Thursday and didn't have time to do chest/tris before the game. Game sucked...we got blown the bell out. Both our bigs were out and we got hammered on the boards. Lost 131-90. I shot like Lebron in the finals...shitty. Prolly around 40-42% to get 52 points. But...i was still shooting better than everyone else. :/ We were out matched talent wise badly but itight have been competitive if we had our bigs. Knee started bothering me mid way through the 2nd half (had to play all 40 mins) and then went away a little. Got loose in the baseline with about 3 mins to go and went up thinking 2 hander but knee gave out and I barely got a clean one hander. :/ Crumpled on landing, knee definitely not happy. Finished the game with some apathy lol

Today....knee feels the same as it did BEFORE the game yesterday. Its like it quickly recovers to the same point then gets stuck there at like 75-80%.  So i lifted anyway. Top set PR on deadlift at 435. 3 rep PR at 385 for two sets as well. 315 3 sets of 5 for some volume. Did 2 circuits of BSS (135lbs 8 reps per leg), seated calf raises (125lbs 12 reps paused), seated ham curls (145lbs 12 reps) and glute kick backs (100lbs 12 reps) and did some box jumps between sets. Finished with some core work.

Extra stretching and two rounds of icing and it seems to feel a touch better. Really focusing on IT band stretches.
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« Reply #858 on: July 25, 2015, 06:48:26 pm »
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Forgots to logs....bah. Quick recap lol!

Monday: squatted.

Top 385 x1. 365 2x2. 315 3x5. Some assistance work ton of core.

Tues: back/bicep/shoulders.

Wed: speed day!!!!

Power cleans and hang cleans at 135lbs. 3 sets of 3-5 each.
Jump squat 135+bands 3x5.
Speed squat: 225+bands 2x10.
SL hip thrusts: 3x12 each with holds.
Front squat: 135lbs 3x5.
No core work, every set was broken up with a few box or depth jumps.
Finished with some SAQ work with resistance bands. Havent done that in forever...so ummm... Was super bouncy feeling so I tried a few running box jumps, nothing ridiculous because i cant plant in the shoes i lift in :/ like one quick step and up. Took a vid. Will load later.

Thursday: chest/tri/shoulders/core. Chest and shoulders are MUCH improved now that ive hit them a few weeks in a row!

Deadlifting later tonight after dinner with the wifey! Kid free :)
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« Reply #859 on: July 28, 2015, 01:11:45 pm »
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Well....i feel fucking weak as shit lately.

BW 182-183lbs.

Deadlifts....bleh.

Warmups 135 x5, 225 x3, 315 x1, 385 x1 (wtf...that was hard?), 435 x fail/x fail...got angry. Threw shit. Lifted it with probably the worst form in the history of people not included in crossfit. Got angrier.

Worksets
385lb 2x3.
315lb 3x5.

Scrapped assistance work. Because fucking shitty lifts.

Squatted Monday...

Felt better but still weak... 385 top ATG single felt more difficult than it should.

Sets:
355lbs 2x3.
315lbs 3x5.

Two circuits of assistance  (instead of 3 :/ )
Core/stepups/back extensions/core/box jumps repeat
core/calf raises/lunges/core/box jumps repeat.

I gotta get out of this rut. On a positive note...knee is feeling almost 10p%. Im beginning to think tendinitis is NOT an over use injury but a stretching/alignment issue...
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« Reply #860 on: July 28, 2015, 02:32:38 pm »
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Hey Chris,

Squatting over 2x BW obviously contributes greatly to your DLRVJ, but do you feel like your deadlifts have contributed much?  Do you do them just because they are a p-chain dominant exercise to balance things out, or do you think they actually contributed to your DLRVJ?

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« Reply #861 on: July 28, 2015, 02:37:57 pm »
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Thats a great question Ive asked myself from time to time. What I've decided is the truth is somewhere in the middle.

I originally started deads to balance myself as an athlete absolutely. Now, I DO think its helped my DLRVJ...how much tho I'm not sure. My vert has increased since i started deadlifting and so has my SLRVJ (barely but I dont train it often if at all truthfully). Id like to think the extra glute and ham recruitment HAS to help in the jump. It certainly helps with cutting/directional movements.
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« Reply #862 on: July 28, 2015, 02:42:49 pm »
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Would you say your squats are quad dominant or glute dominant?  Where do you feel the most activation?  I'm always curious in seeing what dynamics worked for people who increased their vertical significantly

And also, is your DLRVJ quad or hip dominant?

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« Reply #863 on: July 28, 2015, 06:32:54 pm »
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Well...it USED to be quit quad dominant  (my squat) but lately itsuch more balanced; I feel it in my hams coming down into the hole, glutes coming out and quads take over at about the parallel mark. :/

Im still very much quad dominant when I jump ME IMO (dunking etc) but ive noticed more hip pop lately on my box jumps. Wondering how thats going to translate when I can jump ME again pain free.
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« Reply #864 on: July 28, 2015, 06:34:49 pm »
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Id say the most useful thing tho was definitely squatting. I was a quad dominant, reactive jumper before. By adding strength Ive balanced it out quite a bit. I think i still lean towards reactivity but its not a glaring difference like before.
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Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #865 on: July 28, 2015, 06:46:28 pm »
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Reactive in my books is just a translation of "my quad tendons accept a tremendous amount of load without shutting down the quads in the process".
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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« Reply #866 on: July 28, 2015, 07:08:19 pm »
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Yea, Ive seen it classified as having strong tendons.


But...think about it, great force goes into the tendons and if the dont collapse they must what? React. Its just a reaction to the force put into them. Thats why reactive guys get higher with each step (to a point), each step gathers speed...more speed...more force in...more force rescted out.
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« Reply #867 on: July 28, 2015, 07:34:20 pm »
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Well of course it is. But it's depressing to think that stuff is more into the realm of genetics than it is in the realm of actual training effects. To get a training effect would mean, IMO, to do a tremendous amount of volume of plyometric work, a stuff that athletic/high jump coaches here in Romania do abide by.

Same thing with becoming a reactive "dunker" - go the Jordan Kilganon or Kadour Ziani "non stop dunking/dunk or die" route. But only those whose genetics were "right" to begin with will be able to go that route without getting injured, because someone with faulty mechanics/"bad structure" for jumping will take in so much damage from high volume jumping (using those bad mechanics combined with a bad structure) that they will get injured before any positive training effects will become noticeable.

It's really depressing when you think about it.
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Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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« Reply #868 on: July 28, 2015, 09:47:46 pm »
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i don't know about depressing but it is discouraging. i was thinking today about how i think i'm kind of like an anti-wolverine, in that i heal really slowly from musculoskeletal shit. i jammed my thumb skiing in february and it hurt for like 2.5 months. and i think that means i recover really slowly even from normal training.
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Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #869 on: July 29, 2015, 06:21:17 am »
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Dem glucocorticoid levels...
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps