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Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1110 on: May 04, 2016, 03:13:22 pm »
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Wow amazing, fantastic, man! It was obvious this was really important to you, time for PRs left and right haha, you should feel motivated, lol, not un-motivated. Unless you have sex 10 time per day, in which case, I feel you. I feel you hypothetically... I mean... I'm just projecting th... ok you get the idea :P

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Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1111 on: May 12, 2016, 12:58:21 pm »
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Lol its usually multiple times....sometimes Im tired for lifting sessions :)

Went and played ball for the first time in forever yesterday. Ugh. Awful. Body felt like not mine, conditioning sucked, jumper is literally broken, handle was eh (no turnovers but definitely not to par) and jumping is weird lol

Breakdown: apparently i weigh 190 right now? Upper body is much thicker but my knees arent liking the extra weight on running jumps. More than 2 steps and my body actively tries to shut down my speed in the plant. Can still dunk off 1 step and took a few off glass but i dont feel springy at all. Jumping 41-42" but theres no umph there. The upper body gains showed on the jumpers...i cant follow through because my elbow feels like its about ti dislocate itself :/ Going to have to re teach some motor patterns.
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Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1112 on: May 13, 2016, 11:35:43 pm »
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Did half a PC workout tonight...ran out of time on assistance work as I had to get the girls from my moms and in bed before the wife got home and killed me :)

Weight is still up at 187lbs. I have to tighten up on my diet. Pretty sure its all portion sizing as im not eating differently...just more lol

Deadlifts
135 x10, 225 x5, 315 x1, 405 x1, 455 x1.
405 x 3, 405 x3, 405 x3, 315 x8. Not as much volume as normal but i  plan to shoot/train/jump tomorrow moring and dont want to be dead. The heavy triples were with a 1 min rest between.

1 circuit of BSS, ham curls, glute kick machine and box jumps. No time for core work. Blah.
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Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1113 on: May 18, 2016, 01:47:07 am »
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Squatted last night. Back and biceps with some shoulders tonight. Weighed in at 186.2lbs tonight.

Squats:

135 x10, 225 x5, 315 x1, 365 x1, 385 x1.
335 x3, x3, x3, x3
295 x8, x8
225 x12.

Ugh. Some assistance work, mostly knee stability stuffs.
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Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1114 on: May 19, 2016, 11:14:26 am »
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Did back and biceps Tuesday night. Shot some last night and omg. It took me almost 45 mins to get my jumper even feeling remotely normal lol! Handle came along nicely with some drilling. Now the interesting part (well to me)....Jumping.

Im not getting up as i should be due to lack of practice, my efficiency is wayyyy down. So i noted a few things. Number 1, since im unable to carry my normal speed into my approach i tried a semi JusFly approach where i 'hopped' into the plant. Boom. Instant inches even tho it felt weird as shit. Seems like the reactive forces are still there they just arent turned 'on' yet due to my low plant speed. Im sure with some practice my normal speed will return but it was a nice little 'experiment'

Secondly, Ive been hammering legs with both volume and weight lately but ill be damned if my quads werent sore after 3 or 4 max jumps! Now, my quads are on point right now (IMO lol) so this confised me slightly and i thought it was maybe a conditioning thing but as i kept jumping i realized im feeling the jumps MUCH differently than any squat or leg exercises i do in the weight room.  I usually feel the outer quad and across the top of my thigh on most stuff and vmo/glute on BSS and such but in my jumps it was the quad insertion points to the knee that are sore sore SORE. (Excluding VMO since ive been working on it a lot). So...it reminded me of what raptor has been screaming forever about his quads shutting down even when hes strong in the weight room in quad dominant exercises. We just arent targeting the right area of the quadmaybe?! Big question now is: CAN I target that area in the weight room or is it something that only comes with repetitive jumps.


Hmmmmmm.
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Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1115 on: May 19, 2016, 12:34:39 pm »
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i tried a semi JusFly approach where i 'hopped' into the plant. Boom. Instant inches even tho it felt weird as shit.

I experienced this a while ago too. i completely forgot about it for a couple years though. definitely looking forward to try it out again.

i wonder if it'll still benefit your jump verses your normal approach once you get your movement efficiency back
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Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1116 on: May 19, 2016, 03:31:40 pm »
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Did back and biceps Tuesday night. Shot some last night and omg. It took me almost 45 mins to get my jumper even feeling remotely normal lol! Handle came along nicely with some drilling. Now the interesting part (well to me)....Jumping.

Im not getting up as i should be due to lack of practice, my efficiency is wayyyy down. So i noted a few things. Number 1, since im unable to carry my normal speed into my approach i tried a semi JusFly approach where i 'hopped' into the plant. Boom. Instant inches even tho it felt weird as shit. Seems like the reactive forces are still there they just arent turned 'on' yet due to my low plant speed. Im sure with some practice my normal speed will return but it was a nice little 'experiment'

Secondly, Ive been hammering legs with both volume and weight lately but ill be damned if my quads werent sore after 3 or 4 max jumps! Now, my quads are on point right now (IMO lol) so this confised me slightly and i thought it was maybe a conditioning thing but as i kept jumping i realized im feeling the jumps MUCH differently than any squat or leg exercises i do in the weight room.  I usually feel the outer quad and across the top of my thigh on most stuff and vmo/glute on BSS and such but in my jumps it was the quad insertion points to the knee that are sore sore SORE. (Excluding VMO since ive been working on it a lot). So...it reminded me of what raptor has been screaming forever about his quads shutting down even when hes strong in the weight room in quad dominant exercises. We just arent targeting the right area of the quadmaybe?! Big question now is: CAN I target that area in the weight room or is it something that only comes with repetitive jumps.


Hmmmmmm.

Watch out. Watch out. Watch out.  Younghollywood has been shutdown by an injury and that's exactly how he described the initial signs before it that he ignored... Soreness right there that happened when he started lifting more along with dunking... Led to quadriceps tendon tendinitis... Prp and rehab and he still dealing w it now... Yours could totally be different but figured I would pass on the story...

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Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1117 on: May 19, 2016, 04:54:19 pm »
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i tried a semi JusFly approach where i 'hopped' into the plant. Boom. Instant inches even tho it felt weird as shit.

I experienced this a while ago too. i completely forgot about it for a couple years though. definitely looking forward to try it out again.

i wonder if it'll still benefit your jump verses your normal approach once you get your movement efficiency back

It probably works the lightest you are. The heavier you are, a 1-2 "step" plant works better, IMO.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1118 on: May 19, 2016, 08:46:45 pm »
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Raptor, why do you surmise that? More weight plus speed equaling more potential energy?

Dreyth, I doubt it. My natural tendency is to 1-2 plant. So i think thats my bodies more natural form and therefore should always be more efficient when all things are equal.

Toddday, THANK YOU! I will definitely be on the safe/wary side reqarding the soreness!

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Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1119 on: May 20, 2016, 02:47:17 am »
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For a few reasons - it's hard to reverse the movement that quickly when you're heavier. The amount of tension you get in the connective tissues when doing that is too much and the CNS is more likely to shut you down.

Furthermore, heavier people have a tendency to be "strength dominant" - so they need more time on the ground to produce and apply that strength - a 1-2 plant where the first leg gets loaded more and the 2nd leg is more for "blocking"/changing directions from forward to upward is more suited for that purpose.

The "hop" plant is better for the more reactive, lighter individual that doesn't have these issues. He wants to take advantage of his "bounciness", aka his connective tissues' stored elastic energy. And that's done the best with a quicker amortization phase, which is what a hop plant allows to happen.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1120 on: May 23, 2016, 02:42:31 pm »
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n=1, but i'm a fairly light (<175), fairly nonreactive person who pretty much jump-stops into my plant. never really been significantly lighter or heavier than i am right now since i started training (at most 8 lbs either direction, and only for short periods), so i don't know how my plant would change if my weight were to go way up or down. interesting question.
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Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1121 on: May 25, 2016, 03:50:52 am »
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Squatted tonight....dead. lol BW at 186lbs so trending down again.

Warmed up...some very eh box jumps. Smh.

135 x8, 225 x4, 315 x1, 365 x1, 395 x1. Interesting how the 395 popped up vs the 365. Cool.

5x5 at 315. Trying to keep it explosive.
Did some high rep junk at 135lbs (20 rep), very explosive, mostly trying to get used to exploding through the ROM completely. Need to break out the bands.

 3 Assistance circuits of BSS (135 x10 per leg), SL.leg press, leg extension and high rep calf raises. Tons of core and some much better box jumps at the end.
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Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1122 on: May 29, 2016, 01:51:42 pm »
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Alrighty...lets see. I wrote down a new program for the next 6 weeks. Goal is to lose 6lbs (down to 182 from current 188) and add 20lbs each to the big 3: squat, dead, bench/overhead press. That give me 3 weeks to really hit lacking areas before vacation lol!

Experimented with Kroc rows last night while doing back and biceps... I like. Will be incorporating heavy Krocs in on bacl day for sure! Now....time for pool...weights later.
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Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1123 on: May 30, 2016, 10:02:58 pm »
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Workout #1 in the books!

BW at 185.5lbs

Squats:

135 x10, 225 x5, 315 x1, 385 x1 (was supposed to be 365 oops), 395 x1. Wasnt as clean as i wanted...probably from the 385 rep.
5x5 at 325lbs.
1x20 at 135lbs for speed.

3x circuit of x10 BSS, x15 SL  leg press, x12 SL leg extensions and 20 rep calf raises.

Core and box jumps between circuits. Jumps felt much better.

Oh ate pretty well today, clean and moderate portions. Time for dinner amd stretching.
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Re: Chris' training journal
« Reply #1124 on: June 07, 2016, 01:55:46 am »
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Update. Skipped chest/tris last week and went light on deads because i only had 30 mins. Got a call Friday afternoon at work that i league i had forgotten about was starting up sunday...luckily we had a bye the first week because holy shit im OFF. Badly. Might put upper body on maintenence only and really focus on my skills this week. Apparently weve been placed in the 'a' league because we have one guy who played a few years at a local small school. So we'll be playing current college guys and overseas guys. Id normally be extremely amped up but im actually disgusted by my rusty jumper and handle right now. SMH.

Anyway. Plan is to put upper body on maintenence  (as stated) and cut 5x5 to a 3x5 and cut back assistance work for a few weeks til im more adapted to playing full court again.

Squatted tonight at 185lbs BW.

135 x8, 225 x4, 315 x1, 365 x1,  395 x1
5x5 at 330lbs. Last rep was a doozy. Much struggle.
1x20 at 135.

1 circuit of assistance stuff. No core.

Shot around for 30 mins outside. Jumper is garbage. Got sick and puked in grass. First time thats happened that i can remember. Interesting.
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