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chasing athleticism -- SPP phase 2 -- W1D1 (1 of 6 weeks)
« Reply #1710 on: March 10, 2014, 08:42:07 am »
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Training
FBS 2x120, 0Fx130
BS 1x132.5, 2x122.5, 2x127.5, 6x112.5
BP 1x92.5

Bodyweight: 87.2kg/192.35lb

Squat notes:
Only upside of this workout was the first set of 6 i've done in months. Time to bring my squat back to 4x6x130kg where I was in RSR2.

Gonna go for a run now, conditioning 3x a week in SPP2.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1711 on: March 12, 2014, 06:46:47 am »
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I had the bright idea to dissolve my 200mg caffeine pill in some coke to make it absorb faster. Well shit, the plan worked. I felt it kick in within a minute. Normally takes a good 10-15. I've read that caffeine is absorbed only 87% as a pill but 99% in the aqueous solution case. But the downside is, wow it tastes foul, so that's a reason why they put it in capsules, probably. Not that mine are caps, they're pills but you can't really taste them unless you chew lol. Interesting.

Man i think i've become obsessed with the MH-370 story. I can't get enough of it. been hooked every since i heard about it. that chick told me about it, and i made a joke initially "where did you last see it?" but since then i've been completely engrossed. The mystery of the decade for sure.
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chasing athleticism -- SPP phase 2 -- W1D2 (1 of 6 weeks)
« Reply #1712 on: March 12, 2014, 08:51:52 am »
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Training
FBS 1x127.5
BS 0Fx139.5, 2x6x117.5
BBS 6x125, 6x120
CR 2x15x215 (PR)
SqP-0 2x10x197.5 (PR), 12x205 (PR)
SqP-2 8x170 (PR)
SqP-3 1x170 (PR)
WCU 4x99.5, 2x104.5, 0Fx110, 2x6x89

Squat notes:
Still weaker than fuck. Just giving volume a chance. 6s will get back me where I was before, 6x4x130kg is the initial goal. Ideally i'd like to have 4x6x132.5-135kg though to PR FS/BS/BBS around 147.5/160/172.5.

Next time i'll go for 3x6x120kg beltless, and 2x6x125 belted. That is a decent amount of volume for now.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2014, 11:09:27 am by entropy »
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1713 on: March 14, 2014, 10:07:23 am »
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I trained today, but bailed when front squat warmups felt too hard. Will try again tomorrow. I benched, but i was shit at that too, failing 95kg which is bullshit. Not worth logging this shit formally. Tomorrow, i'm going to squat and play ball. Can't wait. Going to kick some ass. And have a birthday party in the afternoon, hoping there is good food, im gonna destroy it, if so. haha.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1714 on: March 17, 2014, 10:57:48 am »
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man you slayed the diet. nice job. btw intertube wisdom sez visible 4-pack means closer to 10% than 15%.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1715 on: March 17, 2014, 12:20:18 pm »
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man you slayed the diet. nice job. btw intertube wisdom sez visible 4-pack means closer to 10% than 15%.

Thanks LBSS. I think so too. If only my starting point was about 5kg lighter, i would have actually ended up athletic. Not athletic in the usual sense but as athletic as someone mediocre like me can be. But because i started from 98kg ish instead of 93kg, i am not lean enough to be athletic. To give you an idea how much difference this makes - when i played ball on saturday, to start with i could barely dunk, almost missing even a max effort attempt. Then as i played ball, sweated a lot, got lighter, i started landing dunks much easier. Which means, i'm about 5-7lb too heavy because once i shed that much water weight, i can jump more or less at an acceptable level. I say acceptable which is far and away from ideal.

I havent been updating because it's a littany of failure now, i just avoid writing about it because it will only inevitably lead to moping.. haha.

I have just over 4 weeks left now. I'm taking more stock in the team i've put together against all odds. Got me an athletic 6'8" freak who is one hell of a forward, 2 6'5" guys, one strong, long and powerful as fuck as the center, and the other one a budding athletic freak in his own right, who can play anything from PG to C. He's good. Only 17. So much potential. If only i could get him squatting he might make it far as a basketball player.

It makes me so happy that I facilitated this team. Have 2 quality perimeter shooters to boot, and a decent SG although he's aging and injury prone, he still has the potential to shine as the best player on teh court. That's my team. Unfortunately i'm not playing with them, even if i was, i would be a backup on the bench. Maybe next year, i'll play with my guys instead of my usual interstate team. I'm a better manager than i am an athlete anyways. I can't jump, run, or lift, i'm just mediocre, but i'd strengthen this team coming off the bench, for sure.

Btw can anyone tell me how to get a tall guy dunking quickly? The 6'5" center mentioned above can't dunk, inexplicably. He's lean, has strong thighs and legs, but yet i can't figure out what's holding him back from dunking. Any exercise i should reccomend to him? Dont say squats, no one has time to learn that shit. I was thinking maybe his glutes could do with more strength, so perhaps BSS? easy enough to teach, and might do the trick?

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1716 on: March 17, 2014, 07:14:11 pm »
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man you slayed the diet. nice job. btw intertube wisdom sez visible 4-pack means closer to 10% than 15%.

Btw can anyone tell me how to get a tall guy dunking quickly? The 6'5" center mentioned above can't dunk, inexplicably. He's lean, has strong thighs and legs, but yet i can't figure out what's holding him back from dunking. Any exercise i should reccomend to him? Dont say squats, no one has time to learn that shit. I was thinking maybe his glutes could do with more strength, so perhaps BSS? easy enough to teach, and might do the trick?


Yeah I've heard of a good fix for this: it's called 'go out there and practice trying to dunk'.  :trollface:

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1717 on: March 17, 2014, 08:21:46 pm »
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what acole said, x10,000

also, i find it amazing that you went to the gym, had trouble jumping well, got really warmed up, jumped better, and then attributed the jumping better to losing weight. that's just, i don't even know why you would bypass the obvious explanation. you jumped better because your muscles and CNS were warm.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2014, 08:24:27 pm by LBSS »
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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1718 on: March 18, 2014, 12:19:52 pm »
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Another shitty day in the gym. Thinking of doing something different like daily squatting. Of course the real problem is, playing basketball on sat/sun is killing me in the gym come the new week. Those are the days i'd normally rest and recover while training M-W-F. It's all bullshit. I wasted my time lifting, can't keep the gains, can't use them for anything once basketball takes priority they just fade away, like cinderella's past midnight. I might try lifting again tmr, i guess. I should be squatting 220kg off season if i want to maintain 160kg in season. Time to order some stereons.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1719 on: March 18, 2014, 12:23:37 pm »
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Yeah I've heard of a good fix for this: it's called 'go out there and practice trying to dunk'.  :trollface:

Kind of, but kind of not. I'm not talking about someone who gets high enough but is missing dunks like LBSS or yourself. He's not, he prob needs what 25-26" to dunk? something stupid like that, and he can't jump high enough. Has big strong calves. I am jealous of them. But he can't jump. Why. Ihnfi.

what acole said, x10,000

also, i find it amazing that you went to the gym, had trouble jumping well, got really warmed up, jumped better, and then attributed the jumping better to losing weight. that's just, i don't even know why you would bypass the obvious explanation. you jumped better because your muscles and CNS were warm.

maybe man. maybe. but i used to being able to dunk cold, no warmup jumps. Now it''s a max effort thing, and i have to work up a sweat first :(
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1720 on: March 18, 2014, 01:36:22 pm »
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Could be very slow twitch dominant?  Is he fast? Quick first step? Changes directions quickly?

Ive know a few guys who look just jacked and cant jump/run at all. Either the muscle isnt trained properly.for the activity or they just arent coordinated enough to translate it properly.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1721 on: March 18, 2014, 02:59:40 pm »
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if the guy is in reasonably good shape, and it sounds like he is, then the answer is to practice jumping. simple as that. if he wants to, it can't hurt him to do some plyos, sprints, and/or leg strengthening stuff like BSS, RDLs, GHR, step ups, whatever. but the overwhelming focus just has to be jumping; secondary stuff should NOT get in the way.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1722 on: March 19, 2014, 04:02:30 am »
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He's not super jacked ChrisM but he is def muscular and lean looking, athletic even. I'd say he's about 210-220lb if that at 6'5"-6'6". Not fat though. LBSS is right that he's in good shape, he normally plays football (world) every week, so i'm imagining his fitness is quite decent since they run a lot? Idk. He's not very quick no, but not super slow either. I'd say he's slightly more athletic and a lot stronger than me, which is why it puzzles me why he can't dunk easily.

Should I tell him to do some sprints 1x a week (maybe 5x40m?) and add in some drop jumps at training (a few sets of 5, 1x a week?). And of course have him practice jumping at the rim maybe a few sets of 5. It's worth a shot. I actually dont place much faith in this plyo stuff, so if it works for him, i'll be interested to revise my beliefs.

Btw i weighed myself at 86.5kg/190.7lb today. My theory was at 85kg/187lb i'd be under 12% or less. So it's def in the realm of possibility within 5 weeks of time i have left. Also my waist is around 35.5" now. That's come out of nowhere cause yesterday it was just under 36". So a woosh or something took place.

I just want to get my squat back above 140kg/150kg/160kg (FS/BS/BBS). Pls help :(
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1723 on: March 19, 2014, 06:10:28 am »
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I've had a friend who was 6'7 and could dunk, he could even dunk a 5 kg medicine ball at 10'2 (3.10m) off SVJ... but off a running jump, of any kind, he would suck so badly.

And no matter what I tried to do with him he was always like this.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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chasing athleticism -- SPP phase 2 -- W2D1 (2 of 6 weeks)
« Reply #1724 on: March 19, 2014, 09:46:23 am »
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Training
FBS 1x127.5
BS 1x135, 4x119.5, 3x122.5, 2x2x125
WCU 5x99 (+10kg; PR), 3x104 (+15kg; PR), 1x109 (+20kg), 5x94 (+5kg), 6x90 (+1.25kg)

Bodyweight: 86.5kg/191.7lb

Squat notes:
The 135kg wasn't too bad. I want to get back to 150s asap. Next time i'm gonna try go for 6x3x125kg. I didn't do extra volume cause i wanna be recovered in time for friday when i can get this squat train back on track.

How i lost weight without trying this week makes no sense, esp when i've had a few days of eating too much. But i'll take it.

Squatting consecutive days -- I think daily squatting is the way to go to becoming a good squatter. Once i finish with basketball in april, i'm going to become a daily squatter and work my way up to a regular training max of 200kg. The reason I feel this way is that i find my form is better, stronger in the positions, it's as if my body is moulding itself to be good at the movement, which will really allow me to improve my strength-form or form-strength as it may be, which is what holds me back from lifting very heavy. I find my form breaking down once the weight gets heavy enough because i dont have the strength to hit solid positions throughout the ROM.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2014, 12:05:15 am by entropy »
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