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Training
FS 1x137.5
BS 1x145, 6x2x130

FS notes:
Honestly had no idea what to attempt on FS today. i felt that I wasn't ready to do a repeatable 140kg just yet, but i didn't wanna go as low as 135. It's all bullshit really. I will work up to a repeatable 140kg and once i get there then i'll find out what my max is, hopefully on the strong side of 145kg.

BS notes:
Fuck basketball, has ruined my backsquat and hurt my back I am having serious form problems have found myself with technique amnesia on the heavy reps. I think i eventually figured it out during 3rd double of 130kg but by then enough fatigue had accumlated that i couldn't go for a PR. For the record I failed a string of reps starting from 145-153.5kg which i haven't logged.

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So russian squat program redux. This time i'll get more out of it after my first attempt. Bring it on!

not complicated to get back stronger. ask kingfish: hypers and revsere hypers, and lots of heavy pulling for the upper back. done.

I just hate doing (back) exercises which disrupt squat progress. I'll start to do good mornings, deadlift, ab wheel or whatever assistance exercise and then when I find it's ruining my squat workouts i'll stop doing them Also my workouts get too long if i do anything more than squats and a pressing exercise . And the one time I devoted myself to a year of posterior chain exercise - the RDL -- it gave me nothing for my dedicated efforts which is something I don't want to repeat again.

edit The prospect of doing an assistance exercise for a long period of time is repulsive but I am more amenable to doing a 'back specialisation' for say 3 weeks? Is there such a thing. Also open to rotating assitance exercises every 3 weeks or so. That way I won't get bored and stop doing them since there will be something else around the corner to look forward to rather than the dread and monotony of the same exercise.

if you think you can take it psychologically, i'd try doing one assistance exercise at a time for your back, low weight, moderate-to-high reps, after squatting. so start with 3x10 really light good mornings, maybe. or hypers, which you can do on a bench.

When you put it that way i can def work with that. Thanks so much. I see now that I need to keep it fresh and interesting, i couldn't stand the thought of doing the same assistance exercise for a long time. Also starting conservatively so it doesn't disrupt regular training is a lesson i've always had to learn the hard way.

also, 27" is huge!

lol, 27" sounds crazy to me too but it's true even when cold. After squatting it goes up half an inch. But I do weigh 96 or whatever it is now  so dunno.

I just realised I still have to lie about my squats. I was too embarssed to tell my friend that i'm a lowly 140 and 155 squatter and instead said i am a 150 and 170. The latter is my current goal sure, but i'm not there yet. So I have work to do.

LBSS that is 5'10''/180 will consider 27'' quads huge while entropy that is 6'3''/210+ is just content with them. Mine are 25,5'' now and they don't even look big. I remember the other day, avishek logged that his arms are 14'' and everyone at the gym is checking him out and i was like wtf, mine are 16,5'' and i feel they look just above average. But then i remembered avishek is 5'9''/165 or so, while i am 6'1''/200+ so his 14'' arms should indeed look proportionaly bigger.
Yeah, obvious analysis is obvious.

Naw.... This is different.  Avisheks arm's are not big but if they are lean they will look muscular wheras 16 inch arms won't look impressive if your bodyfat is high...  But 27'' quads are huge ESPECIALLY when you consider entropy is 6'3 and long legged.  If his quads are really 27'' (28'' post workout) they should dwarf his physique.   My quads are big enough that I have to buy custom suits for correct waist quad ratio and at my fattest and biggest my quads are 24.5'' when I am 5'11 220.    To put it in perspective Frank Zane and Franco Columbo had 26'' quads, Arnold Schwarzenegger had 28'' quads.  Only today's bodybuilders ( Jay Cutler and Ronnie Coleman have 31'' and 36'' inch quads) have significantly larger quads then Entropy and they are 100 pounds heavier and when you see then in person they look like actual cartoon characters...

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/best-bodybuilders-of-all-time.html

The only possibility here is that Entropy measured incorrectly (maybe converting to imperial or something) OR this is a sign of some crazy body dismorphia.   His main goal is to jump higher... His quads are certainly not a hindrance in this department and would look silly compared to those of world class jumpers.  If anything he should take this measurement to mean he has added enough mass to his quads already! 

^Totally agree about bf being more important than circumference in aesthetics, wanted to edit my post and add exactly that that but forgot.
Wouldn't bf affect thighs circumference too? IIRC entropy is about 20%bf now, for a 210lbs guy that would be ~30lbs of extra mass ( of not dense, bigger volume taking fat mass to be exact ) compared to a 6%bf bodybuilder of the same LBM.
One very important thing here would be to define where and how one should measure. Loose VMO area vs flexed upper thigh area would obviousely give huge circumference differences. I measure about 3/4 between knee and hip flexor and flexed, i guess that i am doing it wrong.

Quote from: vag on December 10, 2013, 05:07:40 am

LBSS that is 5'10''/180 will consider 27'' quads huge while entropy that is 6'3''/210+ is just content with them. Mine are 25,5'' now and they don't even look big. I remember the other day, avishek logged that his arms are 14'' and everyone at the gym is checking him out and i was like wtf, mine are 16,5'' and i feel they look just above average. But then i remembered avishek is 5'9''/165 or so, while i am 6'1''/200+ so his 14'' arms should indeed look proportionaly bigger.
Yeah, obvious analysis is obvious.

AHEM. i am 5'11 173...

Naw.... This is different.  Avisheks arm's are not big but if they are lean they will look muscular wheras 16 inch arms won't look impressive if your bodyfat is high...  But 27'' quads are huge ESPECIALLY when you consider entropy is 6'3 and long legged.  If his quads are really 27'' (28'' post workout) they should dwarf his physique.   My quads are big enough that I have to buy custom suits for correct waist quad ratio and at my fattest and biggest my quads are 24.5'' when I am 5'11 220.    To put it in perspective Frank Zane and Franco Columbo had 26'' quads, Arnold Schwarzenegger had 28'' quads.  Only today's bodybuilders ( Jay Cutler and Ronnie Coleman have 31'' and 36'' inch quads) have significantly larger quads then Entropy and they are 100 pounds heavier and when you see then in person they look like actual cartoon characters...

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/best-bodybuilders-of-all-time.html

The only possibility here is that Entropy measured incorrectly (maybe converting to imperial or something) OR this is a sign of some crazy body dismorphia.   His main goal is to jump higher... His quads are certainly not a hindrance in this department and would look silly compared to those of world class jumpers.  If anything he should take this measurement to mean he has added enough mass to his quads already!

...and my thighs are 24.5" cold. like t0ddday, i have to buy custom suits and buy normal pants several sized too big and have the waist taken in. i still don't get how he outweighs me by nearly 50 pounds. i wonder what entropy was actually measuring the first time around, because thigh measurement is generally, at least when buying pants, taken to mean the widest part of the thigh, right below the hip. how would one measure one's "quads" separately from the whole leg?

on a related note, the guy who used to be the fencing coach at UNC famously had 30" thighs. fucking huge.

I have a 64 cm thigh and a 46 cm quad at the VMO "level". So 25 inch and 18 inch. Left leg by the way. Right leg is 64 and 45.