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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1185 on: September 11, 2013, 01:55:20 pm »
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By the way - I agree with entropy about gaining weight to gain squat numbers. I mean... I'd get to a 100 kg bodyweight at 6'0 with a 180 kg squat... but what would that do on the actual field? Each and every jump would be such a shock and such a destroyer of joints at that point... I would jump a few times and then need to go home. And as I have terrible cardio ability, carrying that weight with me and trying to move it around would be TERRIBLE.

So... it doesn't make any sense (in my position) to get there.

As for squatting - looking at my recent squats that I've filmed... they look really good IMO even as low bar squats. Mutombo should go with low bar IMO.
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All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1186 on: September 11, 2013, 02:16:37 pm »
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Quote from: Raptor on September 11, 2013, 01:55:20 pm
By the way - I agree with entropy about gaining weight to gain squat numbers. I mean... I'd get to a 100 kg bodyweight at 6'0 with a 180 kg squat... but what would that do on the actual field? Each and every jump would be such a shock and such a destroyer of joints at that point... I would jump a few times and then need to go home. And as I have terrible cardio ability, carrying that weight with me and trying to move it around would be TERRIBLE.

So... it doesn't make any sense (in my position) to get there.

As for squatting - looking at my recent squats that I've filmed... they look really good IMO even as low bar squats. Mutombo should go with low bar IMO.

You don't look very lean though. You could probably be the same weight as you are right now with a way bigger squat.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1187 on: September 11, 2013, 03:50:51 pm »
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Quote from: Joe on September 11, 2013, 02:16:37 pm
Quote from: Raptor on September 11, 2013, 01:55:20 pm
By the way - I agree with entropy about gaining weight to gain squat numbers. I mean... I'd get to a 100 kg bodyweight at 6'0 with a 180 kg squat... but what would that do on the actual field? Each and every jump would be such a shock and such a destroyer of joints at that point... I would jump a few times and then need to go home. And as I have terrible cardio ability, carrying that weight with me and trying to move it around would be TERRIBLE.

So... it doesn't make any sense (in my position) to get there.

As for squatting - looking at my recent squats that I've filmed... they look really good IMO even as low bar squats. Mutombo should go with low bar IMO.

You don't look very lean though. You could probably be the same weight as you are right now with a way bigger squat.

Totally agree. But I eat a lot of sugars because that's what I grew up liking (that's what my mom always bought as a "reward" etc). Plus I'm terrible at cardio so... no kcal burning either.
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All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1188 on: September 12, 2013, 04:09:32 am »
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Quote from: Raptor on September 11, 2013, 03:50:51 pm
Quote from: Joe on September 11, 2013, 02:16:37 pm
Quote from: Raptor on September 11, 2013, 01:55:20 pm
By the way - I agree with entropy about gaining weight to gain squat numbers. I mean... I'd get to a 100 kg bodyweight at 6'0 with a 180 kg squat... but what would that do on the actual field? Each and every jump would be such a shock and such a destroyer of joints at that point... I would jump a few times and then need to go home. And as I have terrible cardio ability, carrying that weight with me and trying to move it around would be TERRIBLE.

So... it doesn't make any sense (in my position) to get there.

As for squatting - looking at my recent squats that I've filmed... they look really good IMO even as low bar squats. Mutombo should go with low bar IMO.

You don't look very lean though. You could probably be the same weight as you are right now with a way bigger squat.

Totally agree. But I eat a lot of sugars because that's what I grew up liking (that's what my mom always bought as a "reward" etc). Plus I'm terrible at cardio so... no kcal burning either.

Do 3 weeks of RFL. It will be the best thing you do for yourself all year. Will teach you to retrain your eating habits to becoming cleaner, lose your dependency on sweets, drop 2-3kg or so of bodyfat. And show you what a difference losing bodyfat makes to athleticism, maybe you'll even keep up dieting for longer til you've reached your athletic bodyweight, albeit with a less severe diet. But to kickstart a drastic change in diet, RFL is a good way to go.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1189 on: September 12, 2013, 04:13:36 am »
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Speaking of, i've been meaning to an update of my cut. Honestly i haven't been doing it very well. I seem to be fine on training days because after lifting I don't get hungry. But on rest days i'll be really good and compliant til after dinner, hunger is slaying me lol. Hard to go from a bulk to a cut. So i'm taking it in stride, usually what happens is i'll get sick of myself and say ok lets do it right, and then i'll be super strict for months at a time.

Anyway here is where I am as of today


On track to break 190 by month end. Think i'm slowing adjusting to it though. Once I do, I expect I will be able to get into 180s by 1st october.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1190 on: September 12, 2013, 08:25:51 am »
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Um... what is RFL?
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All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1191 on: September 12, 2013, 10:08:04 am »
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google is your friend.

*googles "RFL"
*no relevant results
*googles "RFL diet"
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1192 on: September 12, 2013, 10:15:40 am »
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Oh. I thought it was "Romanian Foot Lift"

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All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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chasing athleticism -- W2D3
« Reply #1193 on: September 13, 2013, 09:43:43 am »
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Training
FS 1x117.5, 1x125, 2Fx129, 0Fx132.5
BS 3x120, 2x127.5, 2Fx135, 0Fx140, 1x130, 1x132.5, 1x130, 1x130, 1x127.5, 1x125, 1x127.5, 1x122.5
BP 5x89.5 (PR)
WCU 7x92kg (PR)

FS notes:
Paradoxically I had a really good FS day, my technique was solid and I would have got a PR today contrary to expectation from poor preparation. Will crush it on wednesday with my current technique, just wasn't strong enough today.

Technique sets to come. Second thought, i might skip it today. Wanna see what becomes sore tmr.

BS notes:
Did a lot of singles just nailing down technique. Happy with it. I'm emulating the TK style squat at least in my mind when doing these.

Bench if i can be bothered later tonight
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1194 on: September 13, 2013, 01:20:47 pm »
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Re: the discussion with mutombo about leg training

Quote from: dan green
Hack Squats – Hack squats are a classic bodybuilding exercise and are my preferred exercise for building up larger quad size. I prefer the hack squats because they place very little stress on the back and isolate the quads I feel better than leg pressing. They also allow you to practice driving your hips forward as you would if you are a quad dominant squatter who also engages the hips well. Like any exercise I will try to push these so the rep and weight combinations are difficult to complete, but shooting for 1-2 very hard sets of 20 is ideal here.

I'll put this to the test next week. It might be just the thing i've been looking for..
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1195 on: September 13, 2013, 03:16:55 pm »
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Quote from: entropy on September 13, 2013, 01:20:47 pm
It might be just the thing i've been looking for..

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1196 on: September 14, 2013, 04:27:58 am »
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I was going to write 'the missing link' just for you LBSS but thought to be slightly more subtle. Haha. This one jacked housewife has discovered the ultimate secret to quad length and girth. Click here to find out more.

Fasted all day today. Went to the 'mall' as the kids say to get out and walk around to take my mind off being hungry. Just to get used to being hungry as fuck. I reason that once my body gets adjusted to being hungry, i'll have an easier time stringing together a few weeks of unbroken compliance. So far so good. I think mentally i'm almost there into that zealous cutting mindzone where i'm fully committed and nothing will stop me from my goal.
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chasing athleticism -- W3D1
« Reply #1197 on: September 16, 2013, 04:23:58 am »
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Training
FS 1x117.5, 1x125, 1x130, 3Fx120
BS 3x120, 2x127.5, 1x129

Orange Band Glute bridge 3x15
Pushups 8, 10, 12
Orange Band leg press 2x15
OB 1leg Leg press 2x25

FS notes:
So lots of volume fatigues CNS (quoting the 101 lesson thing mutombo highlighted). That's interesting. Explains why I was retardly weak today after overdoing it on friday. In fact muscularly I feel quite fresh but i guess it's the CNS which is dampened ...... that blews my mind a little. Have to respect volume.

BS notes:
Was just warming up when a flash flood passed by and stormed out my gym. lulz. Would have kept squatting but my shoes were slipping all over the place and it's probably not a great idea to squat. Might go check out a gym nearby and get some sets in, if i can be bothered. Blah

Bodyweight stuff:
Just fooled around with bodyweight exercises. Pretty fun and not that easy. Should do this sort of thing more often!

ok that's all for now.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1198 on: September 17, 2013, 02:26:56 am »
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Might just be a temporary thing but i'm close to 195lb today



Next wednesday i'd like to be around 192-193 so I can PR my front squat to a milestone 3x130kg. Depends how strict I can be, with my birthday this week and all. But we'll see how it goes.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1199 on: September 17, 2013, 04:41:14 am »
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I've been taking mobility a bit more seriously. Have been looking at getting a foam roller, may help with my squat form. In the mean time I rolled my glutes on a softball on the floor. Hurts a fair bit. But already made a huge difference immediately with a bodyweight squat test. Which is promising!!! Wish I tried this earlier.
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