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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #705 on: February 18, 2013, 10:27:33 pm »
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maybe it's the fact that you're 165 pounds instead of 220.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #706 on: February 20, 2013, 09:28:27 am »
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Training
FS 1x90, 1x95, 3x100, 5x95, 5x92.5, 5x90
BS 5x60, 5x80, 5x85, 5x87.5, 4x6x70

FS notes:
Finally got some 5s again, i'm back on track.

BS notes:
Did BS for the first time since injury. Felt good.

A lot of squat volume today.

 I think i'm ready for upper body work but to be safe i'll leave it til next workout. Dying to do some chinups but i'll be patient. Presses too. Funnily enough I don't miss bench press at all.

maybe it's the fact that you're 165 pounds instead of 220.

lol perhaps!

LBSS, what do you think of Pavel's Pin into Pillars program for backsquat on teh side. Thoughts? To remind you it's a 10x5reps program starting with 50% of 1RM and adding 2.5kg/5lb each time, done 3x weekly.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2013, 10:02:06 am by entropy »
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #707 on: February 20, 2013, 10:37:51 am »
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i think that's a lot of volume, why do you want to do so much?
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #708 on: February 20, 2013, 10:41:17 am »
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I wouldn't do it exactly as written.

I'd like to start with heavy FS 2x5.
Followed by medium-heavy BS 2x5.
Finish with backoff sets of light BS 4x6 (start with 4x6x70kg and add 2.5kg each time)

Total volume: 44 reps.

Why volume? Because I can do it with perfect form. Can correct my imbalance where my right leg is weaker causing it to rotate in out of the bottom on heavier sets.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2013, 12:14:09 pm by entropy »
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #709 on: February 20, 2013, 01:17:06 pm »
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oh that looks quite different from "pavel's pin to pillars for back squat on the side." seems fine to me although again, that's pretty high-volume for squatting. i keep saying that one of these days i'm going to do smolov jr. again, and that tops out at 36 reps per workout.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2013, 01:19:30 pm by LBSS »
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #710 on: February 20, 2013, 01:35:29 pm »
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Ha. Thanks since then I reconsidered and relented and reduced the volume some. I don't think I could do proper Pins right now. I would have to be eating a sizeable surplus to pull that off. But it would probably work a treat in building mass. Will put it aside for the moment.

I've done smolov jnr with squats before while maintaining bw. I got a 130kg backsquat without a belt this time last year when I did it. But my vertical went no where and I got nothing out of it athletically. That kind of high freq, high volume program doesn't do much for me in the way of lasting athletic gains. It just made me specialised at squatting.. meh. Still it was fun. If that's the right word (it isn't).

Shit you are right though, as hellish as smolov was, this is even more volume than that. But then again smolov is sets across with a medium-heavy to heavy weight and that's a different beast from what i'm proposing. Any-way-- I think I would probably just end up doing it one day a week if i'm still playing basketball which for now is the plan.

Thanks again.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #711 on: February 21, 2013, 05:51:45 am »
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Usual doms in legs. But also doms in lats. delts, and biceps. I have to wonder if squatting FS & BS encompasses a full body workout in itself - including upper body. The pump in my arms suggests so..
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #712 on: February 22, 2013, 11:28:35 am »
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Training
FS 3x102.5, 5x97.5, 5x94.5
BS 3x85, 2x6x90
OHP 5x30, 5x40, 5x50, 5x52
BP 6x50, 6x60, 2x6x65
WCU 5xBW, 5x85, 5x90

FS notes:
Still recovering lost ground, but slowly getting there. Should end the week with approximately 3x105 & 5x100.

BS notes:
Ok.

OHP notes:
Add 2kg next time.

BP notes:
Benching outside the rack from now. Felt ok. Add 2kg next time.

Chinups notes:
Go for 2x5x92.5kg next time.


Bad weather, no sprinting/jumping. Was tentative about doing upper body work for the first time since injury (3 weeks ago?). But it all went ok. Will be conservative progressing it because bench was the only exercise which seemed to bother my chest, everything else was ok.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #713 on: February 23, 2013, 07:31:15 am »
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Went to the park to shoot around. Warmed up and knees felt great and did some dunks. Haven't felt this fresh in ages. Dunks felt strong.

Tried doing some self lob dunks adarqui style but i found out i'm not able to do those or anything else because then i end up approaching them in a single leg fashion. In fact as I've found the only way I can jump decently is off two legs off a coupla steps. If i take a runup i can't jump as high, because then i try to jump off one leg and it all comes apart.

To sum it up, my SVJ is strong. My double step RVJ is strong. But everything else is weak.

Any suggestions for exercises i should be doing to improve my single leg jump performance or if there is a trick to double leg jumps off a runup?
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Re: chasing athleticism -- reverse hypetrophy pledge
« Reply #714 on: February 23, 2013, 10:12:36 pm »
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I've decided that starting Monday i'm going to resume cutting and I'll cut for 6 weeks til i'm down to 155. You heard it here first.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #715 on: February 24, 2013, 02:17:05 am »
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I've decided that starting Monday i'm going to resume cutting and I'll cut for 6 weeks til i'm down to 155. You heard it here first.

What happened to this!?:

edit. Thinking about it, there are only 3 weeks left in Feb. I can't lose much weight now anyway and 159 is out of the picture from around 165. At best I'll be in the low 160s at the end of Feb. So how about a compromise. I'll cut to say 163-162. And stop cutting there. But since I'm unhappy with my body composition, i'll believe T0dday that thru training I can continue to improve my body composition, or specifically that doing tempo work will improve body comp, I can continue to improve bodycomp even once i've stopped cutting come march. This way I'll be able to train better by getting off the caloric deficit and my body comp will improve thru training. Sort of a best of both worlds.

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #716 on: February 24, 2013, 03:08:51 am »
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Fair comment fella. I'll explain! Since I got injured til today i've had 2 weeks off my diet. I ate towards healing, not caring about body comp. 2 weeks is what Kyle McDowell recommends as the right amount of time between stints of long dieting. So i've got that base covered. Not intentionally, it just happened that way that I went down and while resting and eating to heal, I got the diet break in as a result.

So i'm legit in a position to resume dieting. As far as going down to /only/ 159. I think that's conformable with my goal to get to 155. Let me explain. If i diet down to 155, then once i stop cutting and eat more food and carbs, i'll quickly gain water weight and top out  probably topping out to 159ish.

And training wise i'm staying the course, lots of squatting and lots of running. That will help with my cutting goal anyway and i'm not a pussy to worry about muscle wasting as an excuse to shy away from doing lots of 60-150m sprints.


Rushed thru my front squat workout before ball training, took 20mins including warmups.

Omgs just came back from basketball training. life is so much better when you're on a cal surplus. I was bouncy as fuck. Got my first in-game dunk!!!!!! It's possibly one of the best feels i've ever had on the court. It was a pickup game mind you, not a proper one, but still felt so good. I caught the ball on the left block, and dunked it so hard i pulled the rim down and had to push it back afterwards. PPl around me were stunned cos they didn't expect it haha.

Will do PM sesh later, going to backsquat and upper body.


Training
FS 3x104, 5x99 (AM)
1.5 hr basketball training

BS 2x6x92.5, 3x6x75
OHP 2x5x53
« Last Edit: February 24, 2013, 09:16:12 am by entropy »
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Re: chasing athleticism -- reversing hypertrophy one day at a time
« Reply #717 on: February 25, 2013, 06:48:37 am »
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Day 1 (25th feb 2013)
here we go..................  :strong: .. To 155lb of pure reverse hypetrophy and beyond. All I want in life is people to say "do you even lift bro" when I walk into the room. In related news, im giving up eating pork because pigs are such amazing intelligent animals .. it just seems wrong to me, like eating a dolphin, a dog or a well groomed rat.

Goal is to get thru 3 weeks of this thing. Then I go away on holiday. maintain for a week or two, and come back and do the next 3 weeks. 6 weeks ought to be enough to get down to 155.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #718 on: February 27, 2013, 08:13:46 am »
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Training
FS 3x106, 5x101, 5x97
BS 3x90, 2x6x95, 3x6x77.5

BP 3x6x67.5

FS notes:
Next time I'll go for the PR of 3x108 which is mildly exciting. Realistically though before injury I was due for 5x105 which means my best triple ought to be around 3x111 so it's not that special either. But either way, i'll keep pushing the triple up. Maybe I can get it as high as 3x115? That would be nice. I'm trying to keep a 5kg difference between my top triple and top fiver. This should mean when I triple 110 I will be using 105 for 5 which is where I was pre-injury.

BS notes:
Last 2.5kg jump, from now on it's 2kg increases.

BP notes:
These bothered my previously injured pec. Blah.


Will do upper body after dinner. Probably only just bench press.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2013, 10:23:40 am by entropy »
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #719 on: February 28, 2013, 05:00:02 pm »
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at 6.3 you want to cut down to 155 ? man I´m 6.1 with 160 at 6-7% bodyfat. Why you want your bodyweight that low ?
current vertical: 32.5 inches
longterm goal: 35 inches
shortterm goal 120kgx5 squat
squat: 5x105kg
size: 6,1 weight: 77kg