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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #5175 on: August 25, 2024, 12:01:37 am »
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Saturday ? bw
Bball training - shot around some, will be the last session on that court.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #5176 on: August 25, 2024, 12:03:04 am »
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Pickup for 90 minutes

Was a great vibe, never hooped at this court before. We played full court games, hardly a minute to rest between games, didn't come off the court. It's great cardio! This will probably displace my weekly 10k run, i think that is a fair compromise unless i find a way to squeeze that in through the week sometime.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #5177 on: August 29, 2024, 03:12:00 am »
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I can't even squat light after that, it's just 15 years of squatting has won away what I was born with. I think it's a OA at work, i had a doctor warn me about that in 2019 when I had my first and only serious knee injury. It seems I have to accept that now, i cant just ignore it anymore.

GPT tells me to do higher reps with lower weights, i will give that a shot. But def need to stay away from heavy squats now.

Sorry to hear that man. I've never thought heavy squats at low reps would contribute significantly to knee cartilage wear. I have barely kept up with sports injury stuff, but I would think that running, playing bball - activities with lots of repetitive knee loading - would be worse long-term for cartilage loss. Is it bad after playing ball?

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #5178 on: September 24, 2024, 10:49:17 pm »
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Yeah, AGC you nailed it. The culprit was too much full court basketball. Since then i've stopped the sunday full court pickup and i'm starting to feel better. I squatted 90kg for a single yesterday (it felt like a max lol) - but compared to three weeks back when even the empty bar was too hard for 1 rep, i'm on my way back. Long term I just need to get back to my playing weight of 80-85kg and staying there. No more full court basketball except the weekly game on wednesday. Speaking of, today is the first one - which is exciting. Will update this post after the game.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #5179 on: September 24, 2024, 10:59:46 pm »
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https://assets.firstbeat.com/firstbeat/uploads/2015/10/FFW609US05-171.pdf

I'm trying to work through this and learn a few things about energy systems. The goal is to improve my conditioning by being smarter and training better. I haven't got much training room to implement something new except the one sprint day i'm planning to add which I have avoided until I got in better shape (<90kg which is where I am at now)

Monday
Incline dumbell bench + dips

Tuesday
Squats + back extensions
 
Wed
Basketball game

Thurs
OHP, Dumbell OHP and Chinups/pullups

Friday
Gym session: Deadlifts, RDL, Barbell rows
Track: Sprints / HIIT
Court session: followed by half court pickup or shooting practice

Saturday
Bench, DB bench, curls

Sunday
Treadmill run 1hr
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #5180 on: September 26, 2024, 12:24:37 am »
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I posted this on insta but i'm going to write something here as well. I'd love to get back to dunking again. It's a far cry, now it's a max effort to touch/grab the rim. I feel very slow and sluggish and look even worse. Backsquat is non-existent. It's a new challenge for me to increase vertical without the usual tools (squats). The first port of action is to get to 85kg bw, that will probably the most effective way to achieve the goal. But in the meantime I can also add some exercises which get me along the way while i'm dropping 5kg. Low level plyos (small box) + and regular jump session is what i'm thinking so far.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #5181 on: October 02, 2024, 10:02:19 am »
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We had a bye this week, i found a game to fill in at the last minute - felt so good to have the chance to ball. The team was really cool, they were willing passers to me which I really enjoyed, but the usual problem of someone jacking up a shot seconds into the offence still applies. I dont know why people force shots, isn't it better to just move the ball around a bit even if you do end up jacking up a shot, at least you explored other possibilities first. Speaking of offense, i took zero shots - not one. I got a few nice assists, a few blocks, a few rebounds. It was my kind of scoresheet, i just haven't got the juice to play well on both ends - my conditioning only allows one of the two. But thats a cop out, I still had a few chances to take on the defence and I just passed out to the open man. Lol its' the right decision but the guy i was passing to was open for a reason.

Made some progress in rehab, i started doing some knee prehab stuff, it felt quite good, promising stuff.

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #5182 on: October 08, 2024, 08:38:18 am »
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Cool thing happened on sunday, i forced myself to do a sprint session. Not even planned or scheduled but I knew if I don't force the issue i'll just keep skipping sprints forever. SO i did it, and then having overcome that inertia decided I should sprint not just 1x a week but, let me sprint again tomorrow and thursday and ... yeah. lol. Figuring out yourself is half the battle.

I also did some jumps today and i was just maybe 2 inches short of the above goal which seems so out of reach. Sprinting man, it works. Also watch this space.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #5183 on: October 22, 2024, 02:41:04 am »
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Disrupted training and nutrition the last 10 days. I got some nice jumps in last week, i'm hoping to see it continue. The trick was to use a lower target which somehow lets my body organise itself in a better way than for a really high one which i was not having great movement with. Sort of like the low rim dunk version of gym jumping?
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #5184 on: October 27, 2024, 06:51:53 pm »
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Reading this log is frustrating. I was so dedicated for years and years but completely a zealot which cost me dearly. People would give great advice and i'd not take it because of an unshaking zeal to stick to my core beliefs, whether or not it was justified, I lost out on easy gains. The main one was being a mediocre basketball player because I thought We Are Smart and Can Train better, obsessing over squats and not putting in the time to improve my conditioning in a specific way.

This last week was the first time I actually trained intentionally to become better at my sport. I could enter a paragraph but a picture will do far better than I could say in words:



I was wrong, running a 10k at constant speed, a week, does almost nothing to make me better at basketball. Yes it works my heart and lungs, yes it means i have an aerobic base but it doesn't reproduce the constant change of velocity (ie. change of speed or direction or both, ie. acceleration, ie, accelerating and deceleration)  entailed in a typical game. I would have accepted the logical reasoning but my mind was closed off and i never took conventional wisdom. So what you see in that photo, is me doing an hour long workout, running back and forth across a soccer field (parallel to the goal). To add insult to injury it was a zone 2 and i fit in some sprints as well - which is what the people tell you to do anyway. lol, so much more complete a session that i've ever done. Ok that was week 1, let me do this for 3 weeks then 6 and see how it translates to the game. I've never scored over 10 points, i suck but it's because of conditioning and bad confidence as a result of that.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #5185 on: November 09, 2024, 11:06:51 pm »
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I nearly jumped 30" - then life happened. Starting over now, but at a more maintainable pace.
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