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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4965 on: April 20, 2020, 01:32:16 pm »
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so back off for a few days.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4966 on: April 21, 2020, 05:34:16 am »
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so back off for a few days.

if you mean from the heavy singles? i have been backing off volume, the last 2 squat focus days i only did the heavy single and no worksets after that, not by choice just by being drained. But tonight let me try dropping down on the maintenance single.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4967 on: April 21, 2020, 07:16:58 am »
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Tue (21/4/2020)
Daily Activity: 5
Daily Training: 22 days
BW: 84.1kg (no shoes)

BS 6x75, 6x100B, 3x120B, 1x127.5B
OHP 8x27.5, 8x37.5

Notes:
Used a belt but i've done something to my right quad, maybe just need to foam roll (i never do that stuff but i'll start now).
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4968 on: April 21, 2020, 12:41:17 pm »
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i meant either total rest or at least a break from squatting. give your body time to supercompensate and not get injured.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4969 on: April 22, 2020, 01:36:32 pm »
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Wed (22/4/2020)
Daily Activity: 5
Daily Training: 25 days
BW: 84.8kg (no shoes)

BS 6x75, 6x100, 3x120, 1x127.5, 20x77.5
BX 17xBW

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Well i was super cautious and decided it was time to reset, so i'm doing 20s now after the daily max. But it might not have happened, i did the set of 75kg which felt a lot harder than it should have a right to. Then i thought what harm will it do to for the 6x100kg, which went okay better than expected. At that point i could have ended the workout and listen to LBSS, or just do the daily maintenance 3x120 and 1x127.5? My wil power is gone and i cant make decisions very well, so i just thought to do the the routine thing. Now im noticing my back is quite sore and it might be the back extensions coming into play, interesting enough, even though they're just bodyweight and i used to do like 20 reps with +100kg! So lets see what happens in the next couple of workouts, signs are promising though that backing off the top single and volume has got me unstuck
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4970 on: April 23, 2020, 07:48:15 am »
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Thu (23/4/2020)
Daily Activity: 5
Daily Training: 26 days
BW: 84.0kg (no shoes)

BS 6x75, 6x100, 3x120, 1x127.5
OHP 6x50, 3x59, 2x61.5, 8x53.5, 10x50.1
Chinup 5x12.5kg, 6x6.25kg, 8x1.25kg, 8xBW

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Come on abs, it's time to recover now, i got goals to reach.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4971 on: April 25, 2020, 02:13:05 am »
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Fri (24/4/2020)
Daily Activity: 5
Daily Training: 27 days
BW:  (no shoes)

BS 6x75, 6x100, 3x120, 1x130, 6x112.5, 12x92.5, 21x72.5

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4972 on: April 25, 2020, 06:50:57 am »
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Sat (25/4/2020)
Daily Activity: 5
Daily Training: 28 days
BW:  85.3kg (no shoes)

BS 6x75, 6x100, 3x120, 1x127.5
BP 6x76, 5x85, 1x92.5, 7x79.5, 8x76
Pullup 5x6.25kg, 7xBW, LPD 15x20kg, Curl 10x10kg

Notes:
Even though my squat is gone, upper body is coming around slowly. Think the back extensions have helped if that makes any sense, b/c my hamstring endurance is tested by longer sets of bench press, today i had no issue with hamstrings so that's a good sign. I should also mention prob the hardest part of the bench max single is unracking the bar .. getting off the chest is not so hard in comparison, just one of those quirks of benching alone i guess.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4973 on: April 26, 2020, 06:11:52 am »
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Sun (26/4/2020)
Daily Activity: 5
Daily Training: 29 days
BW:  85.5kg (no shoes)

BS 6x75, 6x100, 6x115, 3x122.5, 1x130, 13x95
BX 20x10kg
Slow Run - 60 min / 7.75km

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I'm considering doing the supercompensation thing but i still dont know why someone like me would do it, because im not trying to peak for a comp or a PR or anything like that .. so why do it? I mean in terms of regular training, say even daily training, is there a place for such peaky manoeuvres? Suppose by going for supercompensation i actually end up being stronger/bigger whatever beyond the short term, then it's worth it but im not sure if that's something that happens when you rest? by that i mean not to artificially hit a higher peak right after, but as a way to become stronger long term. in my experience whenever i back off, say from injury or life getting in the way, i never end up stronger .. you end up having to take 2 steps back
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4974 on: April 26, 2020, 10:54:57 pm »
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Quote from: maxent on April 26, 2020, 06:11:52 am
Sun (26/4/2020)
Daily Activity: 5
Daily Training: 29 days
BW:  85.5kg (no shoes)

BS 6x75, 6x100, 6x115, 3x122.5, 1x130, 13x95
BX 20x10kg

Notes:
I'm considering doing the supercompensation thing but i still dont know why someone like me would do it, because im not trying to peak for a comp or a PR or anything like that .. so why do it? I mean in terms of regular training, say even daily training, is there a place for such peaky manoeuvres? Suppose by going for supercompensation i actually end up being stronger/bigger whatever beyond the short term, then it's worth it but im not sure if that's something that happens when you rest? by that i mean not to artificially hit a higher peak right after, but as a way to become stronger long term. in my experience whenever i back off, say from injury or life getting in the way, i never end up stronger .. you end up having to take 2 steps back

Isn't the idea of peaking to peak, lower the weights and then peak again at a higher peak in the future. Peak and repeat. Then you can peek your peak at a later date and be impressed by how much you've peaked.   :D

Seriously though what's the long term plan for the daily squatting? Was talking to a guy I used to ball with who's strong AF and he used to squat everyday. He said it was ok short term but found that once he stopped squatting everyday he lost his strength pretty quickly compared with other progressions. Small sample size but still got me thinking. Also reminded me of all the bros at my old gym who squat 4+ plates and are only concerned about aesthetics but still jump higher than I do lol.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4975 on: April 27, 2020, 01:48:33 am »
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If i did a peaking thing to squat 140kg i'd be pretty embarrassed for myself .. i never did it once for when i hit my PRs last year all the way from 140kg to 170kg .. it was just regular training everyday, nothign fancy. I did a good honest workout every day. If im going to start doing 'peaking' to just squat 140kg, one, i dont care about peaking to squat 140kg (lol) but also two, and then what, immediately after, how do i go back to normal training from there?

i do agree with you friend, my goal was just to spend 50 days or so and getting quickly closer to where i was before getting hurt. Like a daily 150kg. And then switch to every other day. But when i ran the daily squat experiment last year my observation was yea it works remarkably well but it had diminishing returns beyond around day 100. in days 50-75, i had achieved most of the gains and should stop there b/c otherwise the joints just take too much of a beating. Last time after day 150, even after complete rest for 3 months, my joints were still not recovered. Never again. Day 100 is the absolute limit.

my goal with daily squatting is just get back to squatting 150kg ish and then focus on something else
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4976 on: April 27, 2020, 02:30:44 am »
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Quote from: maxent on April 27, 2020, 01:48:33 am
If i did a peaking thing to squat 140kg i'd be pretty embarrassed for myself .. i never did it once for when i hit my PRs last year all the way from 140kg to 170kg .. it was just regular training everyday, nothign fancy. I did a good honest workout every day. If im going to start doing 'peaking' to just squat 140kg, one, i dont care about peaking to squat 140kg (lol) but also two, and then what, immediately after, how do i go back to normal training from there?

i do agree with you friend, my goal was just to spend 50 days or so and getting quickly closer to where i was before getting hurt. Like a daily 150kg. And then switch to every other day. But when i ran the daily squat experiment last year my observation was yea it works remarkably well but it had diminishing returns beyond around day 100. in days 50-75, i had achieved most of the gains and should stop there b/c otherwise the joints just take too much of a beating. Last time after day 150, even after complete rest for 3 months, my joints were still not recovered. Never again. Day 100 is the absolute limit.

my goal with daily squatting is just get back to squatting 150kg ish and then focus on something else

Yeah I agree 100%. If you're going to peak it needs to be for something reasonable and not just a wasted training day. You've still got 3 weeks to get to 150 though. Completely doable.

I'm almost glad I can't play ball or do martial arts at the moment though. Given me much more time to focus on getting those lifts up.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4977 on: April 27, 2020, 06:18:42 am »
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Mon (27/4/2020)
Daily Activity: 5
Daily Training: 30 days
BW:  ? (no shoes)

BS 6x75, 6x100, 3x120, 1x127.5
OHP 12x20kg

Notes:
Took a recovery day and didnt do upper body. I'm sick of the fatty i've become, time to clean up diet in a big way. If it means i have to be less ambitious with training, so be it, no point getting fat just to make progress in the gym.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4978 on: April 28, 2020, 07:26:55 am »
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Tue (28/4/2020)
Daily Activity: 
Daily Training: 31 days
BW:  85.4kg (no shoes)

BS 6x75, 6x100, 3x120, 1x127.5
OHP 6x50, 3x59.5, 1Fx62, 8x54, 10x51
Chinup 3x15kg, 5x11.25kg, 7x5kg, 8xBW
LPD 15x21.25kg, Cable row 15x20kg, Curl 15x20kg

Notes:
I noticed something is off with my right hip, which is prob why my form has been strange the last couple of weeks. It clicks when i do side leg swings, cos the adductors (or abductors) seem to be too fatigued or something. need to get to the bottom of this before i get hurt, but it's why my squat bottom position has been so erratic .. with variable rom every rep/set
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4979 on: April 29, 2020, 06:03:02 am »
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Wed (29/4/2020)
Daily Activity: 
Daily Training: 32 days
BW:  84.9kg (no shoes)

BS 6x75, 6x100, 4x122.5, 1x132.5, 10x107.5
BX 20x15kg

Notes:
Last squat sesh for the month. I've started doing unracks with supramax weight .. just to remind my spine what we used to do back in the good old days in 2019.
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