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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4755 on: April 12, 2019, 05:21:36 pm »
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Not sure if I've asked this before but is this the Melbourne comp or a local one?

Nah you haven't, Melb. I literally might have peaked a week ago. Now i can barely squat my warmups or dunk. Lol.

Cool. We should catch up while you're here. Even just for a coffee.

Nah man have confidence. I saw your latest IG post. Shot is looking good. You'll be fine.

id like that. i'll send you a dm on insta!  :highfive:

also i did the full court coast to coast dunk drill. i could get 5 reps in before i died of cardiovascular overload. 6 if you include the first dunk starting from half court (i dont!). I did several sets of 5s. Actually a great workout. I wish i started doing it sooner! next time if i hav ea chance i'm going to take a puff of the inhaler .. i have one lying around b/c i thought i might have undiagnosed asthma but i never actually tested my theory out. would be interesting to repeat the drill but with using it.

don't do that plz, thnx. see a doc.

using an inhaler for athletic performance vs saving your life, is.. not a good idea.

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4756 on: April 12, 2019, 10:46:52 pm »
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I dont really agree with that haha. Is steph curry now using contacts, athletic enhancement? Yea. is it a big change, nah. But for someone who can't see very well (like you and me) contacts are going to have more than a neglible difference. But if you gave everyone contacts they'd not benefit nearly as much as someone who needs them.

I think if i repeat the drill and get 6 reps (b/c i expect +1 rep from adaptation) that's my baseline. If using the inhaler takes me to 10-12 then i need to figure out why i'm getting such a large benefit compared to what most ppl would get, maybe +1-2 rep since they've reported it hasn't shown performance benefit in studies. Read that on wikipedia last night so i dont know much about it at all. For performance athletes in running sports where every ms counts, maybe that's enough to change the result but still fairly minor in the big scheme of things.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4757 on: April 12, 2019, 10:51:14 pm »
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Quote from: LBSS on April 12, 2019, 02:15:21 pm
coast to coast layups is a great warm up for jumping as well IME.

sucks about the racist kid.

Yea i think the biggest benefit is it it's training to do stuff while moving fairly fast, eg pull up for a shot. dunk. in a way it's athletic training proper ..  need to implement more full court work in general b/c it makes everything more challenging and more gamelike.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4758 on: April 12, 2019, 10:56:05 pm »
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Bodyweight(AM): 85.9kg (13 March)
Diet compliance: 35/35 days
Daily Squat: 147/147 days 
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  • Thinking rest the knees today and do a final hard training session sunday. Any suggestions on what to incorporate for tomr? Thinking a squat, a dunk and full court conditioning.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4759 on: April 12, 2019, 11:12:23 pm »
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Quote from: LBSS on April 12, 2019, 02:15:21 pm
coast to coast layups is a great warm up for jumping as well IME.

sucks about the racist kid.

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4760 on: April 12, 2019, 11:17:15 pm »
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nice! i counted 8? not sure if that's easier or harder without having to dribble the ball up. Probably way harder lol. But i'd rather do the sprint and dunk, but prob only get like 2 or 3 reps. Now i need to find some friends.
edit. If you think about it it's 8x30m = 240m sprint, where you dunk and change direction every 30m. The kind of metabolic demands are way different to anything else. But for someone like me who struggles to run fast over a straight 200m then this is a brutal workout indeed.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4761 on: April 13, 2019, 12:26:31 am »
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just gonna add my $0.02 to adarq about not using an inhaler for short-term athletic performance. the comparison with contact lenses is spurious.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4762 on: April 13, 2019, 01:32:13 am »
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I don't disagree. I'm just trying to figure out what's wrong with me. If the inhaler has little benefit then i don't have to persue it any further. If it has massive benefit (to me) then it would suggest i could benefit from treatment. But from what i've read so far (just cursory googling) it has little benefit in terms of performance enhancement.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4763 on: April 13, 2019, 01:34:42 am »
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Quote from: LBSS on April 13, 2019, 12:26:31 am
just gonna add my $0.02 to adarq about not using an inhaler for short-term athletic performance. the comparison with contact lenses is spurious.

and you'd have to go to an optometrist to get "fitted" properly for contacts.

unless maybe you're maxent. then you'd just go pick up a random pair of contacts see if they help. :ninja:
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4764 on: April 13, 2019, 01:38:04 am »
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Haha actually i used to go to the optometrist regularly and my numbers were always in flux and deteriorating with time.  I stopped going like 10 years ago and since then my vision has been stable at the same numbers. So there is something to DIY your health.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4765 on: April 13, 2019, 01:43:46 am »
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Quote from: maxent on April 13, 2019, 01:32:13 am
I don't disagree. I'm just trying to figure out what's wrong with me. If the inhaler has little benefit then i don't have to persue it any further. If it has massive benefit (to me) then it would suggest i could benefit from treatment. But from what i've read so far (just cursory googling) it has little benefit in terms of performance enhancement.

it's not worth finding out whether or not it benefits you, unless you consult a physician first.

additionally, inhalers can increase heart rate & can have side effects during exercise. IMHO, given your HR history, it's not worth experimenting with unless you are under proper supervision - even if it's just done "once" during some basketball drills. going from <never using one> to <trying it out during intense physical exertion> also seems like a bad way to experiment with it.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4766 on: April 13, 2019, 01:45:33 am »
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Do you see the problem with that though? In a clinical setting i'm not going to exhibit any symptoms. You telling me if James Harden walked into his primary care physician office and said yo i need treatment he'd get it? Doc will take one look at you and say you're in good shape and healthy and you should get going.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4767 on: April 13, 2019, 01:53:22 am »
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i see the problem with you setting up some cookie cutter hypothetical response from a doc, to justify using an inhaler, rather than seeing if you actually need one by seeing the right people (ie not googling it).

Quote from: maxent on April 13, 2019, 01:45:33 am
Do you see the problem with that though? In a clinical setting i'm not going to exhibit any symptoms. You telling me if James Harden walked into his primary care physician office and said yo i need treatment he'd get it? Doc will take one look at you and say you're in good shape and healthy and you should get going.

well he'd probably be right. and if that's all he says & you're not impressed, find a better doc.

what'd docs tell you about your heart?
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4768 on: April 13, 2019, 03:17:03 am »
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Quote from: maxent on April 13, 2019, 01:45:33 am
Do you see the problem with that though? In a clinical setting i'm not going to exhibit any symptoms. You telling me if James Harden walked into his primary care physician office and said yo i need treatment he'd get it? Doc will take one look at you and say you're in good shape and healthy and you should get going.

you serious? how do you think doctors diagnose asthma? guessing?

also, the eye doctor example some anti-vaxxer logic. went to eye doctor, eyes changed from time to time per administered tests, stopped going to doctor, eyes stabilized per your own perception, ergo not going to doctor stabilizes eyes. of course! it makes perfect sense. or perhaps your eyes stabilized because that's what happens when people get older. or perhaps they have gotten worse but because it's happened gradually and only slightly over time you don't perceive it.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4769 on: April 13, 2019, 03:27:09 am »
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None of us have any idea about any of this. Im willing to investigate though.
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