Author Topic: chasing athleticism (Read 1464625 times)

FP · « **Reply #3840 on:** August 01, 2017, 01:24:07 am »

Quote from: maxent on July 31, 2017, 04:30:49 am

Ive doubled my vitamin D intake now and I think i'll stick to that until the end of winter. I dont eat enough dietary fat i think, my daily intake is around 40-50g a day. Will try eat 4 eggs a day, that will take it up to 20g of dietary fat from egg. Need more perhaps but maybe from a different source. Olive oil? I already use it for cooking eggs. But not like im gna do olive oil shots so idk how to 'eat' more of it. Another change ive made as of today is to stop using handwash. I became somewhat of a hygiene freak a few years ago and i think it may have affected my T levels. Will use a bar of soap even tho it's messier and not as convenient. I have the bases covered for micronutrients already so there isn't much to change on that front. Sleep/ Stress though could improve. Finallly activity levels need to go up, think 6000-8000 units a day minimum and 8000-10,000 on training days. Training every other day also. Maybe even look at 2-a-day training sessions again. i actually found that helped my squat when i tried in may. Any other ideas?

I'm all about the canned sardines in olive oil. They don't taste as gross as just about every other canned meat and have hella protein and good fats including a bunch of omega-3's.

I think high fat/low carb diet is pretty healthy. From personal experience when i eat high fat and save carbing for important events i have really good general well-being. Could just be placebo though.

Reading "Grain Brain" right now which is a little controversial because it pretty much says all carbs are not the best, especially for brain health. Main claim It makes that I'm interested in is ADHD improvement. It also mentioned libido improvement which I'm guessing could be associated with T levels. I'm only a few chapters in so still pretty skeptical but reviews are decent and people say low carb/high fat has helped them a lot with various issues although the authors explanations for why this diet works are questionable at times

maxent · « **Reply #3841 on:** August 01, 2017, 01:56:32 am »

BW: 84.1kg
Activity: 6500 (okay)
Misc:
Diet Compliance: Yes; 5/84

Rest today, will try get 6000-8000 units though.

maxent · « **Reply #3842 on:** August 01, 2017, 01:59:36 am »

Quote from: Coges on July 31, 2017, 05:43:22 pm

Coconut oil, avacado and nuts are my main sources of fat outside of eggs.

i think id reflexically avoid nuts because i dont know about exact calories and they're kinda dense, but i guess that's more paletable when you're trying to get more fats. Same for avacado. I've cooled on coconut oil after reading an article saying it's the most high in cholesterol, the article recommended olive oil or something else.

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/health-and-wellbeing/nutrition/coco-nuts-the-argument-against-coconut-oil-has-gone-too-far-20170712-gx9p02.html

had the idea to try stirfrys .. hmm

Phenom yea i dont like that low carb propaganda. Im open to eating more fat but the proponents go full retard and recommend 3 slices of bacon and 3 eggs as healthy and i just nope out. having said that, i cud prob benefit from more fat not so much less carb. idk?

adarqui · « **Reply #3843 on:** August 01, 2017, 02:25:03 pm »

yo! re: our DJ technique convo on IG. I just unprivated some DJ videos, this one shows what I was talking about pretty well:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bukCCeb-UH8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bukCCeb-UH8</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8UqPUW0KOA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8UqPUW0KOA</a>

maxent · « **Reply #3844 on:** August 02, 2017, 04:27:52 am »

BW: 83.7kg
Activity:
Misc: Added Creatine today (see below)
Diet Compliance: 6/84

2 weeks since injury. Thinking to try heavy today

BS 3x120(PR since injury lol), 1x130(PR since injury), 5x117.5(PR since ..)
BP 2x85(WHAT THE FUCK), 1x95(slowest rep ive done ever)
Lots of jumps
Hill sprints x 3 (PR; reintro)

Notes:
Going heavy for the first time since getting hurt went okay. I did a triple with 120kg, possibly could have done more reps on that first set but decided that was pretty good for now. Then did a heavy single of 130kg, again could have repped it but decided that was good enough for today. Finally decided to be conservative and go for a heavy 5rep set at 117.5kg, went okay too.

Ive decided to introduce creatine. I went back and forth but i think it's better if im on it while im trying to do a lot of things simulantanously (get leaner, get heavier, get stronger, get fitter, get more athletic). I will cycle off it eventually but for now it will benefit me more given how much im trying to fit in recovery wise. Tbh the thought of weighing 87.5kg in the morning and 90kg in the gym while having my fat 6-pack and jumping PR territory sounds kinda nice right now.

maxent · « **Reply #3845 on:** August 02, 2017, 05:16:56 am »

Quote from: adarqui on August 01, 2017, 02:25:03 pm

yo! re: our DJ technique convo on IG. I just unprivated some DJ videos, this one shows what I was talking about pretty well:

Wicked! Will incorporate the arm swing ive seen in your vid. I think you are doing them off a higher box so you actually start and complete much of the arm swing process while in the air! which is really interesting. I think my box is around 12" so I cant really get too much into the arm swing process but i should be able to get aleast the raising of the arms infront of me done in the air? Or try to get more than that? What do you think?

Re: Box height, there are other boxes (higher ones) but i thought to master the technique with the lowest one before trying higher ones. But now you've got me wondering whether i'd be better off using one I can do a proper armswing while in the drop phase.

ALso watching your SVJ vid im realising i dont use any arm swing in my SVJs. Imagine if i can PR my SVJ today by working on that. Will take vids.

edit. postworkout:
I think i finally got a 'good enough' depth jump and wow, even tho box is ONLY 11" (i measured today), it felt really intense. I guess this is why people say depth jumps are intense. i thought they were too easy (even with 30" jumps i did in the past..) and people were vastly overselling the shock to the body angle. Interesting. So it's fun to do jumping workouts. I did some depth jumps, then i tried jumping for a max touch RVJ and i sucked. Then i went back, did some kettlebell swings working up to the heaviest bell they have (28kg), after that i tried some more jumps and was back to touching the vent territory. FINALLY got touches with my new LR plant .. they're really faint touches though but still progress! i cant help thing i can get more out of the LR plant, as of now, it still feels submaxy, even the arm swing doesn't look as smooth or aggressive enough. not sure why, i know it's a different movement altogether in how my hips and stuff go thru the jump but ya hoping something clicks, prob need to try a few different things. Today i thought i could be more straight on with the target rather than approaching from side-on. I think with RL plant side-on makes sense but with LR i have to modify to straight on etc.

Also i prob did my first windmill dunk .. hypothetically, if it counts without a hoop cos i was jut messing around with a medicine ball at the gym trying to get the movement down. Also the hoop wud prob need to be around 100" high cos i finish the movement on the ground. haha. just gotta figure out a way to jump higher while doing it and also bring my arm around quicker

Coges · « **Reply #3846 on:** August 02, 2017, 11:52:51 pm »

Quote from: maxent on August 01, 2017, 01:59:36 am

Quote from: Coges on July 31, 2017, 05:43:22 pm
Coconut oil, avacado and nuts are my main sources of fat outside of eggs.

i think id reflexically avoid nuts because i dont know about exact calories and they're kinda dense, but i guess that's more paletable when you're trying to get more fats. Same for avacado. I've cooled on coconut oil after reading an article saying it's the most high in cholesterol, the article recommended olive oil or something else.

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/health-and-wellbeing/nutrition/coco-nuts-the-argument-against-coconut-oil-has-gone-too-far-20170712-gx9p02.html

had the idea to try stirfrys .. hmm

Phenom yea i dont like that low carb propaganda. Im open to eating more fat but the proponents go full retard and recommend 3 slices of bacon and 3 eggs as healthy and i just nope out. having said that, i cud prob benefit from more fat not so much less carb. idk?

Man don't believe that shit. It's the AHA for Gods sake!!!
Either way, coconut oil or olive oil. Either are good. I generally have more olive oil myself anyway.
Nuts are a tough one and if you're concerned about the cals then don't bother. 100g of cashews is 600 cals or something like that. Borderline ridiculous.

Also, I eat 4-6 eggs daily and they're so good. Nothing to be afraid off there.

maxent · « **Reply #3847 on:** August 03, 2017, 05:08:54 am »

BW: 83.3kg
Activity: 6000 (ok)
Misc:
Diet Compliance: 7/84

Rest

I thought to try eating chicken thigh over breast but i didnt even enjoy it, way too fatty :/ will go back to breast. also found this sweet hazelnut chocolate spread that's 97% less sugar. It tastes pretty good, not sure if it has a place in my daily but i enjoyed that immensely.

Coges · « **Reply #3848 on:** August 03, 2017, 09:01:28 pm »

Quote from: fast does lie on August 03, 2017, 01:21:32 pm

Quote from: Coges on August 02, 2017, 11:52:51 pm
Quote from: maxent on August 01, 2017, 01:59:36 am
Quote from: Coges on July 31, 2017, 05:43:22 pm
Coconut oil, avacado and nuts are my main sources of fat outside of eggs.

i think id reflexically avoid nuts because i dont know about exact calories and they're kinda dense, but i guess that's more paletable when you're trying to get more fats. Same for avacado. I've cooled on coconut oil after reading an article saying it's the most high in cholesterol, the article recommended olive oil or something else.

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/health-and-wellbeing/nutrition/coco-nuts-the-argument-against-coconut-oil-has-gone-too-far-20170712-gx9p02.html

had the idea to try stirfrys .. hmm

Phenom yea i dont like that low carb propaganda. Im open to eating more fat but the proponents go full retard and recommend 3 slices of bacon and 3 eggs as healthy and i just nope out. having said that, i cud prob benefit from more fat not so much less carb. idk?

Man don't believe that shit. It's the AHA for Gods sake!!!
Either way, coconut oil or olive oil. Either are good. I generally have more olive oil myself anyway.
Nuts are a tough one and if you're concerned about the cals then don't bother. 100g of cashews is 600 cals or something like that. Borderline ridiculous.

Also, I eat 4-6 eggs daily and they're so good. Nothing to be afraid off there.

What's up with eggs and cholestrol? I've heard conflicting info out there.

There is absolutely no link between eggs and bad chol. It was a study from years ago that has taken years to die. I remember in Australia there was one funded by the dairy board who would just promote cereal over eggs. Obviously if you have chol problems then there may need to be care taken as eggs do contain cholesterol though.

maxent · « **Reply #3849 on:** August 04, 2017, 04:18:16 am »

My concern isn't that cholesterol raising fat is bad as much as it's which other fat other than saturated fat (and fish oil) is beneficial which one could add to a daily diet. Btw this purified refined MCT rich coconut oil seems super interesting. Coges have you tried to source it in aus?

maxent · « **Reply #3850 on:** August 04, 2017, 04:20:21 am »

BW: 83.3kg
Activity:
Misc:
Diet Compliance: 8/84

Going to squat it out today! Something crazy, watch this space.

BS 10x5x110(PR!!)
RDL 8x120, 8x160H(PR), 8x150H
Back Xtn 2x12x50(PR), 10x50

Notes:
I was thinking of going for 6x5x110 and then i did 6 and thought i can do one more, and eventually i thought i can do a 10th set and there we are. My new mod 100 program is born. Yay. Next time it will be 112.5kg mod 100 sets of 5, ie 12x5x112.5 then 15x5x115 and so on up to 20x5x120kg.

Skipped upper body b/c i didn't think id be able to do a quality session today.

Nutrition:
Ate 5 eggs and some chicken breast cooked in olive oil. So i shud be good for optimal testosterone nutrition ha.

maxent · « **Reply #3851 on:** August 04, 2017, 01:36:14 pm »

I dont get hwy my bodyweight went from 85kgish to 83kgsh since i started eating more fat esp when i was thinking of going from 85kg->87.5kg steadily lol. It's okay tho, will be patient and get there eventually and then 90kg. Creatine may alredy be working .. i felt so good in the gym today, just felt i could keep going all night. Nice. SO far so good. My mood is better too. I think test levels are improving slightly already since i cut off handwash and started eating more fat.

Coges · « **Reply #3852 on:** August 04, 2017, 07:15:52 pm »

Quote from: maxent on August 04, 2017, 04:18:16 am

My concern isn't that cholesterol raising fat is bad as much as it's which other fat other than saturated fat (and fish oil) is beneficial which one could add to a daily diet. Btw this purified refined MCT rich coconut oil seems super interesting. Coges have you tried to source it in aus?

Have seen it at chemist warehouse for about $19. Seems like good enough value. Haven't actually tried it yet. Definitely an interesting option though and I know Ross Edgley is a big proponent of using duel fuels (carb/protein and fat/protein) for training so might be worth a shot.

maxent · « **Reply #3853 on:** August 04, 2017, 11:55:26 pm »

I don't think you should stress about this fast. In the case of obesity any significant weight loss will result in improvement for health markers across the board. Just focus on that and you'll be a lot healthier.

Coges · « **Reply #3854 on:** August 05, 2017, 12:01:31 am »

What he said ^^^

Quote from: fast does lie on August 04, 2017, 09:45:49 pm

Coges-- If eggs doesn't raise bad cholesterol (meaning it raises good cholesterol) than why would I worry about it raising my "cholesterol". I ask this because you said:

Quote from: Coges on August 03, 2017, 09:01:28 pm

There is absolutely no link between eggs and bad chol. It was a study from years ago that has taken years to die. I remember in Australia there was one funded by the dairy board who would just promote cereal over eggs. Obviously if you have chol problems then there may need to be care taken as eggs do contain cholesterol though.

I'm not a doctor. I don't know the ins and outs but your body is more complex than just eat this or don't eat that. If you have cholesterol problems then like maxent said, focus on some weight loss and maybe don't smash 6 eggs a day to get there. Idk

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