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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3810 on: July 23, 2017, 10:38:55 am »
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Quote from: maxent on July 23, 2017, 05:52:08 am
back has gotten better, time to start over again. fuck my life.

well that's good news!! maybe cut out the paused squats for a while.. they are effective but obviously more risky than a normal squat.

I personally cut out paused squats, REA squats, jump squats, barbell lunges, front squats (loved those for vert, but they wrecked my upper back quite a few times) etc back when I was verting. Sometimes you just get to the point where it's like, fu*k the fancy stuff, pure basics.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3811 on: July 23, 2017, 12:07:20 pm »
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Quote from: adarqui on July 23, 2017, 10:38:55 am
Quote from: maxent on July 23, 2017, 05:52:08 am
back has gotten better, time to start over again. fuck my life.

well that's good news!! maybe cut out the paused squats for a while.. they are effective but obviously more risky than a normal squat.

I personally cut out paused squats, REA squats, jump squats, barbell lunges, front squats (loved those for vert, but they wrecked my upper back quite a few times) etc back when I was verting. Sometimes you just get to the point where it's like, fu*k the fancy stuff, pure basics.

THe first 2 days there was almost no change, was a struggle doing normal everyday things, getting out of bed was a struggle etc. But last night somehow it felt a lot better so i thought i could train today. And so i went for it. Was going to go cautious and see what made things feel better what made things feel bad. I found goblet squats were the only lower body exercise which helped. everything else i tried (rdls, squats) made it worse. So im going to avoid those things now and stick to goblets. It gives me a chance to priotise upper body work, which will allow me from going too crazy from frustration with my back.

As to what happened. I still dont know. i have video of every rep i did on weds when the injury occured. The first double with 125kg went fine, technically crisp, no problem. The double with 137.5kg was mostly clean, not even dirrty, but i felt something off on the 2nd rep. And i racked the bar. Dropped down to 107.5kg and did volume. First set went okay. 2nd set i switched to my nike shoes which have a WL sized heel, more depth but okay. Next set things went bad around rep 2, and even tho i did 3 reps that set and they were fine technically crisp, i was done.

I think it's a disc issue but possibly muscular too. left hand side of my lower back. I cant figure out which tbh. I'll give a shotout for the useful doctors in this country who will tell me to take ibuprofen and fuck off out of their office with no answers. i cant really figure it out unless i drop $1500 by getting an MRI privately on my own volition but since they wont refer them, i know from past experience.  Sucks but without scans etc i have zero clue what actually happened :(




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« Reply #3812 on: July 24, 2017, 03:38:56 am »
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Rest today. so far back's feeling okay... comeback is on.
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« Reply #3813 on: July 25, 2017, 04:50:08 am »
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Back bit stiff but will go train and see how it goes
BS 6x70, 3x100, 6x80
RDL 6x60
45 deg back xtn 2x12

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Hard to describe how pointless that workout was lol. last workout at least i got some bench pressing done but today while resting upper, i had absolutely nothing to do. i even loaded up 120kg on squats to test where im at recovery wise but the risk was too great and i dropped to 100kg to test with that instead.
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« Reply #3814 on: July 25, 2017, 07:29:17 pm »
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Quote from: maxent on July 25, 2017, 04:50:08 am
Bodyweight: 84.7
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Back bit stiff but will go train and see how it goes
BS 6x70, 3x100, 6x80
RDL 6x60
45 deg back xtn 2x12

Notes
Hard to describe how pointless that workout was lol. last workout at least i got some bench pressing done but today while resting upper, i had absolutely nothing to do. i even loaded up 120kg on squats to test where im at recovery wise but the risk was too great and i dropped to 100kg to test with that instead.

Actually having some back issues myself, pounded out some cardio, 400s and upper body today. Tomorrow I'll be doing more cardio, iso's, and agility/technique work. Dunno if any of this stuff would be helpful for your training goals but just throwing some ideas out there. I had what was supposed to be a minor QL strain maybe half a year ago and I kept trying to get back in it too early and it ended up dragging the injury out into a problem that lasted over a month. Better safe than sorry
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« Reply #3815 on: July 25, 2017, 07:46:07 pm »
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Quote from: Final Phenom on July 25, 2017, 07:29:17 pm
Quote from: maxent on July 25, 2017, 04:50:08 am
Bodyweight: 84.7
Activity:
Misc:

Back bit stiff but will go train and see how it goes
BS 6x70, 3x100, 6x80
RDL 6x60
45 deg back xtn 2x12

Notes
Hard to describe how pointless that workout was lol. last workout at least i got some bench pressing done but today while resting upper, i had absolutely nothing to do. i even loaded up 120kg on squats to test where im at recovery wise but the risk was too great and i dropped to 100kg to test with that instead.

Actually having some back issues myself, pounded out some cardio, 400s and upper body today. Tomorrow I'll be doing more cardio, iso's, and agility/technique work. Dunno if any of this stuff would be helpful for your training goals but just throwing some ideas out there. I had what was supposed to be a minor QL strain maybe half a year ago and I kept trying to get back in it too early and it ended up dragging the injury out into a problem that lasted over a month. Better safe than sorry

i had a QL strain too, waaaaaay back when i was initially learning about lifting (before becoming ex sci major).. wrecked it.. took a long time to heal, that injury sucked.

and ya the only thing i'd say you really need to be careful of, is getting into that mindset of like, being "angry" and trying to just "beat squatting as if it's some kind of war".. honestly it seems like you get into that mode.. personally, avoid that mindset at all costs. If you find yourself doing that, switch up the session immediately and AELS. Easier said than done, but, I think that mentality is really self destruction.. So just be careful with it maxent.. don't go to war with the bar in the context of overcoming an injury etc. Odds are with the bar. :/

peace!
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« Reply #3816 on: July 27, 2017, 09:53:59 am »
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Quote from: Final Phenom on July 25, 2017, 07:29:17 pm
Actually having some back issues myself, pounded out some cardio, 400s and upper body today. Tomorrow I'll be doing more cardio, iso's, and agility/technique work. Dunno if any of this stuff would be helpful for your training goals but just throwing some ideas out there. I had what was supposed to be a minor QL strain maybe half a year ago and I kept trying to get back in it too early and it ended up dragging the injury out into a problem that lasted over a month. Better safe than sorry

ya that sounds like a good deal if you can do those things without disturbing your injury. I cant really think of anything that's painfree for me, yea potentially upper body stuff but say even getting in position with dbs for bench press, is hard to do with a back injury. Can say the same for jumping or running stuff. I dont know. plus you cant tell which is pain you can ignore and train through and what you should safely avoid.

Quote from: adarqui on July 25, 2017, 07:46:07 pm
i had a QL strain too, waaaaaay back when i was initially learning about lifting (before becoming ex sci major).. wrecked it.. took a long time to heal, that injury sucked.

and ya the only thing i'd say you really need to be careful of, is getting into that mindset of like, being "angry" and trying to just "beat squatting as if it's some kind of war".. honestly it seems like you get into that mode.. personally, avoid that mindset at all costs. If you find yourself doing that, switch up the session immediately and AELS. Easier said than done, but, I think that mentality is really self destruction.. So just be careful with it maxent.. don't go to war with the bar in the context of overcoming an injury etc. Odds are with the bar. :/

peace!

working super hard to keep myself on teh right side of AELS. i felt hyped today for some reason but decided to err with caution. I think im listening to my body, if a set feels wrong i will def stop there and do something else. so far i have stuck to that, it's what day 9, i think i shud be okay to train normally soon.
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« Reply #3817 on: July 27, 2017, 10:14:30 am »
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BW: 85kg (!; the daily pizza/chips/chocolate have caught up with me)
Activity: 7k (good)
Misc:
Diet Compliance: 1/84

BS 5x107.5(PR; since injury; stopped there, i will save it for next workout)
OHP 2x60 (heavy as fuck wtf ; aborted .. will repeat next workout)
Some jumps .. PR the highest touch in the gym but sad to find out it's only about 30" which is depressing but still it seems so high to tuoch that pipe and i never was able to until today so idk i'll take it. and i might have jumped off LR plant unless my brain overruled me in the ME attempt and went RL i should get video tbh).
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3818 on: July 27, 2017, 01:14:59 pm »
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Added a daily 'Dietary compliance' field to my daily log template. My current goal is 12 weeks (84 days) unbroken while focusing on upperbody. So long as I eat clean i shud be able to make some progress for the first time focusing on bench/ohp/chinup/curls/dips/etc for a good block of 12 weeks.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3819 on: July 27, 2017, 01:40:48 pm »
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adarqui gave me a hint on my depth jump video i posted on instagram and i tried to implement more arm swing and i must say the one rep i nailed it on, it really felt good and different. Will be doing more of these now with the new technique improvements.Thanks for the tip!
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3820 on: July 27, 2017, 02:22:40 pm »
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Quote from: maxent on July 27, 2017, 01:40:48 pm
adarqui gave me a hint on my depth jump video i posted on instagram and i tried to implement more arm swing and i must say the one rep i nailed it on, it really felt good and different. Will be doing more of these now with the new technique improvements.Thanks for the tip!

hah np!



Quote from: maxent on July 27, 2017, 09:53:59 am
Quote from: Final Phenom on July 25, 2017, 07:29:17 pm
Actually having some back issues myself, pounded out some cardio, 400s and upper body today. Tomorrow I'll be doing more cardio, iso's, and agility/technique work. Dunno if any of this stuff would be helpful for your training goals but just throwing some ideas out there. I had what was supposed to be a minor QL strain maybe half a year ago and I kept trying to get back in it too early and it ended up dragging the injury out into a problem that lasted over a month. Better safe than sorry

ya that sounds like a good deal if you can do those things without disturbing your injury. I cant really think of anything that's painfree for me, yea potentially upper body stuff but say even getting in position with dbs for bench press, is hard to do with a back injury. Can say the same for jumping or running stuff. I dont know. plus you cant tell which is pain you can ignore and train through and what you should safely avoid.

Quote from: adarqui on July 25, 2017, 07:46:07 pm
i had a QL strain too, waaaaaay back when i was initially learning about lifting (before becoming ex sci major).. wrecked it.. took a long time to heal, that injury sucked.

and ya the only thing i'd say you really need to be careful of, is getting into that mindset of like, being "angry" and trying to just "beat squatting as if it's some kind of war".. honestly it seems like you get into that mode.. personally, avoid that mindset at all costs. If you find yourself doing that, switch up the session immediately and AELS. Easier said than done, but, I think that mentality is really self destruction.. So just be careful with it maxent.. don't go to war with the bar in the context of overcoming an injury etc. Odds are with the bar. :/

peace!

working super hard to keep myself on teh right side of AELS. i felt hyped today for some reason but decided to err with caution. I think im listening to my body, if a set feels wrong i will def stop there and do something else. so far i have stuck to that, it's what day 9, i think i shud be okay to train normally soon.

nice!
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« Reply #3821 on: July 28, 2017, 04:09:18 am »
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BW: 84.8kg
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Misc: woke up painfree for the first time
Diet Compliance: 2/84

Gna go put up some jumpers today, ive been missing the court. Rest day though.
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« Reply #3822 on: July 29, 2017, 05:09:33 am »
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BW: 84kg
Activity: ~8k (good!)
Misc:
Diet Compliance: 3/84

Training tonight, hoping to be strong and get some progress..
BS 5x107.5, 5x110, 5x107.5, 2x5x105
OHP 3x3x60, 5x2x60
DB OHP Seated 8x20, 10x20, 5x22.5, 8x20, 8x20
RDL 7x120, 6x155H, 8x125H
Back Xtn 12xBW, 2x15x25kg

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My ROM on RDLs was low, it's ok tho, i think my CNS is protecting my back. Will get ROM good over the next couple of sessions, until then im not calling anything a PR etc.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3823 on: July 29, 2017, 12:13:20 pm »
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i loook soo skinny in the gym mirrors its deflating lol. really makes me wanna get my bodyweight up to 95kg. Hmm. If only i wasn't fat id go for it :/
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3824 on: July 29, 2017, 08:31:35 pm »
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Quote from: maxent on July 29, 2017, 12:13:20 pm
i loook soo skinny in the gym mirrors its deflating lol. really makes me wanna get my bodyweight up to 95kg. Hmm. If only i wasn't fat id go for it :/

the cure for me, regarding physique, has always been "big legs". If my legs are big, I seem to not care about what's going on with my upper body.. big legs also imply i'm more powerful etc. so it's almost like a primal switch you can flip in your brain.

I took several physique selfies when I was dunking, being lean felt good but, knowing my legs were disproportionally big felt even better. I didn't take any physique selfies when I was running... got skinny all over, didn't enjoy it (physique-wise) that much.

high rep moderate intensity squatting makes legs big real quick.. plus it's a lighter load on the spine which is cool.. just can't let form break down obviously.

regardless, some occasional bodybuilding style sessions where you try and pump everything up to the max isn't a bad thing.. it's actually pretty fun and might help.. trick: only look in the mirror after that session.. :) :ninja:
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