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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3240 on: September 15, 2016, 04:49:19 am »
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my strategy for cutting weight quickly wud be something like this, loads of protein, low carb (within reason, enough to train well etc)), 18hr fasts, max duration 10-15 days, do it strictly and honestly and then stop. after a while it really does get overwhelming from a life perspesctive
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3241 on: September 15, 2016, 04:55:30 am »
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BS 6x122.5(LPR;+2.5kg), 2x130B(LPR;+2.5kg), 2x135B(LPR;+5kg)
QBS 8x162.5(LPR;+2.5kg), 8x197.5(LPR; +5kg)

JS 6x110
Push Press 2x6x66(LPR)

BW: 80.3kg (i think, maybe it was 80.4kg though)

Notes:
Wasnt sure where to do an abbreviated workout or not with the final tonight but i just did it and cut the last set of quarter squats. lol. I switched to the thicker bar for quarter squats .. so much better, i can actually unrack and rack the bar at correct height instead of having to use the lower hole, which is necessitated by the newer bar which is flexy as fuck. I think a lot of lifts which need heavier weight (>150kg) i shud prob just use the older bar. it sucks but it sucks less cos it's stiff and holds its shape well which feels better on the back.

just a note in passing, my form is really bad right now .. but i want to get somewhere half decent before turning to volume with lighter weight to sort out form and get stronger. im gambling a bit here .. it shud be ok, i think doubling 140kg with a belt with shit form will get me strong enough to use 127.5kg for volume, and if i am patient with that, i shud be able to correct form sufficiently to advance towards my year end goal of 6x2x150kg .. (yes this is the first time im nentioning it). And finally this is my ultimate squat goal -- 6x2x160kg @ 80kg before the 2017 tournament during easter break.

will do a quick push press, jump squat sessh before the game. idk if i mentioned but we sneaked into the finals as the weakest team.. 4th seed, playing the unbeaten 1st seed. so it's going to be a difficult game but lets see how we go. 
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3242 on: September 15, 2016, 10:39:42 am »
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Lost another finals lol. i wont retrospect too much, but suffice to say my run of selfish guards going hero mode and missing everything cost yet another championship. gutted. i played outta of my mind tho.. on to the next season!
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3243 on: September 15, 2016, 10:54:44 am »
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 :trolldance:

forgot to mention, warmups i thew up the biggest tomahawk for the winter. i cant tell whether it was b/c i jumped high or i hit hard, or both, but it felt amazing. so even with all this squat induced fatigue. sprained ankle last wk etc and my inflating bodyweight, i can still get up to near enough PR levels. or i shud i say local PR cos i prob jumped higher in the summer when i was a lot lighter but pretty cool

may schedule a dunk session and tape soon
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3244 on: September 16, 2016, 01:04:04 am »
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BW: 80kg

but im fatter so nothing to celebrate. After my birthday weekend im gna need to get under 80kg and stay there.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3245 on: September 17, 2016, 04:15:14 am »
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BW: 80.4 (sad face)

damn it renovations continue to disrupt my saturday trainings :( i didnt sleep much more than a few hours .. they came in pretty early and that was the end of my restorative supplementation. Just did a strugglesome ohp workout where i did the slowest hardest to lock out triple ever .. i prob wud have given up on it but i didnt wanna in a public gym setting.

ohp 2x60, 2x3x60, 4x2x60

BS 6x6x120(LPR!)
WCU 3x5x98.2kg, 3x5x93.2kg


shud i try rest up tongith and then crack squats tmr? i dont like to delay workouts tho .. it just makes for a chaotic week tryna catch up. will see how we go..
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3246 on: September 17, 2016, 11:25:03 am »
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BW: 80.4 (sad face)

damn it renovations continue to disrupt my saturday trainings :( i didnt sleep much more than a few hours .. they came in pretty early and that was the end of my restorative supplementation. Just did a strugglesome ohp workout where i did the slowest hardest to lock out triple ever .. i prob wud have given up on it but i didnt wanna in a public gym setting.

ohp 2x60, 2x3x60, 4x2x60

shud i try rest up tongith and then crack squats tmr? i dont like to delay workouts tho .. it just makes for a chaotic week tryna catch up. will see how we go..

smart decision says yes.. training addicted athlete says no.  :ninja:

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3247 on: September 17, 2016, 01:06:21 pm »
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BW: 80.4 (sad face)

damn it renovations continue to disrupt my saturday trainings :( i didnt sleep much more than a few hours .. they came in pretty early and that was the end of my restorative supplementation. Just did a strugglesome ohp workout where i did the slowest hardest to lock out triple ever .. i prob wud have given up on it but i didnt wanna in a public gym setting.

ohp 2x60, 2x3x60, 4x2x60

shud i try rest up tongith and then crack squats tmr? i dont like to delay workouts tho .. it just makes for a chaotic week tryna catch up. will see how we go..

smart decision says yes.. training addicted athlete says no.  :ninja:

lol yup. guess which i went with?
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3248 on: September 17, 2016, 01:14:21 pm »
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spoilers .. we need a spoiler tag :P

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I went on and did it, first set went ok, did a 2nd and next you know im thinking i can do 6 sets of this mfka even tho i only intended 2 sets and rest 4s if i cud manage those. My lifetime PR is 6x6x122.5 BUT i did that with creatine and close to 90kg bodyweight and my old bar was like 19.x something not 20kg -- this time i used a proper 20kg bar AND 2x25kg plates so it's in some sense more legit .. anyway. i destroyed it and i still weigh 80kg! will post video tmr). Ive also done 4x6x132.5kg but again that awas with creatine and a bodyweight close to 96kg .. this time i weighed a whopping 15kg less so there is that..

but im so happy with my workout on my birthday eve .. i think ive unlocked some inner switches for working hard and pushing thru barriers ..ive revised my goal of 6x6x127.5kg to 6x6x130kg .. that will be more satisfying and i can do it within the same timeframe as mentioned earlier, hold me to it!
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3249 on: September 17, 2016, 09:41:25 pm »
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Aight some thoughts from last nights squats ...

You know you had a good squat session when you have instant VMO soreness. Not talking about next day hamstring DOMs .. i mean VMO soreness right there and then. That's really cool.

I think of 6x6x130kg as a good intermediate goal but lets be clear .. 6x6x140kg is the main goal. That shud get me strong enough to single 4 plates. If not, close enough to anyway. And that's 'enough' strength for a basketball player. More than enough. Plenty. Enough to get my vertical in that 35-40" region - i have to believe.

New day, eat clean, train hard, add weight, get fit, do dunks, do sprints, do curls, get hard, shoot the 3 ball, make friends be happy. The squats are my staple the one thing i worship above all else but balance is just as important and i wont neglect conditioning or jumping. Todday , im sold, i will eat more food to sustain progress. I have tried the cutting forever approach, time to for a change. Not going to gain weight though, will mantain 77-80kg bodyweight but that's plenty of room to gain some muscle and lose some fat without getting to heavy or light. I like the sweet spot of hovering at ~80kg. That's the last time i'll talk about this, im focusing on my training goals instead.
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Re: chasing athleticism (quarter squat writeup)
« Reply #3250 on: September 18, 2016, 12:21:06 am »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBYu3m_gAfg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBYu3m_gAfg</a>

just saying that last wk this was my 6RM and this week i did it for 6x6 .. so no form nazism please ..

so you can see my bar speed is pretty good .. i lock out pretty strong now. thanks to quarter squats. there was a time when i cud bounce up an ATG frontsquat around 150kg but i cudnt lock it out. No one suggested it and it never occured to me, but using quarter squats back then wud have helped me become a beast squatter then.

so im a fan of partial squatting .. best asssitance ive tried in a long time. will keep up the experiment going, i think i can get a lot more out of them, this is just the tip of hte iceberg
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3251 on: September 18, 2016, 01:12:06 am »
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Nice work!
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3252 on: September 18, 2016, 08:39:27 am »
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Nice work!

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great stuff man. looks good. :ibsquatting: true 6RM to 6x6 in a week is solid. Just getting more confident with heavier loads on your back can make a huge difference in itself .. If it feels lighter on your back (because of halfs/quarters), then that can be a huge mental boost.. and those partial ROM squats are still targeting the same musculature. win win.

partial rom squatting (done safely) ftw.



also your white-text spoiler technique was solid yesterday, lul.

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3253 on: September 19, 2016, 01:32:20 am »
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Nice work!

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great stuff man. looks good. :ibsquatting: true 6RM to 6x6 in a week is solid. Just getting more confident with heavier loads on your back can make a huge difference in itself .. If it feels lighter on your back (because of halfs/quarters), then that can be a huge mental boost.. and those partial ROM squats are still targeting the same musculature. win win.

partial rom squatting (done safely) ftw.



also your white-text spoiler technique was solid yesterday, lul.

That's always the way I feel after lifting. If I'm warming up 85kg will feel 'heavy' but after I lift heavier e.g 110kg and drop back down to 85kg it feels lightweight.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3254 on: September 19, 2016, 01:50:12 am »
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hmmm interesting. im not sure if im gaining confidence from using heavier partials per se, esp cos i do them once a week and i do them at the end of hte workouts so i dont get that CNS potentiating effect that ppl sometimes employ (eg walk out 10% more than workset then workset feels easier). i may use that trick down the line but dont really need it yet. my big bag of tricks is well stocked (creatine, knee sleeves, stimulants, etc) and i will only use them sparingly. i wanna see how far i can go without employing them

it is interesting to think about these things, for instance when i started doing heavy partials it felt like they were quite harsh on knees, now i dont feel that at all even with the weights much heavier than when i started doign them. but what i find is that full squats, though a lot lighter, can be harder on knees .. haha. so that goes against conventional wisdom that full squats easier than partials on knees  :wowthatwasnutswtf:


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