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Coges

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3045 on: July 12, 2016, 08:54:47 pm »
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When you say lhs or rhs doesn't matter in catch and shoot is that because a good shooter can adjust to either side not that the mechanics are identical.  Like i have two different feels and techniques depending on which side.  Have to consciously bring the ball closer to my head on rhs wing 3pt shot

Yep. Catch and shoot should be identical. The mechanics are exactly the same and should not change depending on the side.

But they do .. lol.. like handedness matters, i shoot with my left so it will look different coming out of the hand depending on which way the ball is going. I need to simplify things but right now i have  a long list of rules to go thru to get a shot off depending on a bunch of factors... it reminds me of when i was learning common lisp and i had this tenous mind model of how things worked and as i learned more, i added some bits but mostly removed a lot of misconceptions

Nah it shouldn't. When you release the ball you should be square to the basket (shoulders that is) so it doesn't matter where you are on the court. How you get square is a different matter and that's maybe where you're at. It's easier for you to get square on the RHS than the LHS so the shot feels different.
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« Reply #3046 on: July 12, 2016, 08:55:54 pm »
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Quote from: maxent on July 12, 2016, 08:41:09 pm
funny about catch and shoot .. i dont really ghet to practice it much, only in the if you get it in you get it back kinda way in shooting with other ppl. dont have someone to rebound for me ... im working on that, if i i can arrange that i will have better quality shooting sessions.

Yep this is the hard part about solo practice. I end up bouncing the ball off the end of the court sometimes or other times just spinning it back to myself.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3047 on: July 13, 2016, 12:21:48 am »
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Well this glute soreness hasn't subsided .. it's almost painful today. i'm almost sure it's to do with shooting practice now. It's the only "change" that cud explain it...
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3048 on: July 13, 2016, 09:31:49 pm »
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BW: 79.5kg

skinfolds are smaller overnight. This is the leanest ive looked in a long while .. even though the scale has registered lower values last wk, im in better shape. It's a carb thang. I am prob 1.5kg away from looking in 'very good' shape if i dieted that off, but im not concerned about that right now. Would rather get as strong and muscular and fit as possible instead while focusing on basketball than looking leaner. But i do want to look leaner too.
game tonight, i want to beast. thinking of adding a 3rd lifting session, just upper body tho, ohp and chinups? idk, we'll see
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3049 on: July 13, 2016, 10:05:48 pm »
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I guess as a compromise i could aim to weigh 79kg almost every day .. but recomping and if my bodyweight gets lower than than (eg 78.5kg) i cud eat a bit more. I dont really wanna get too light cos it's fools gold.. being lighter makes you feel more athletic but you're not really.. things just become submax and i get complacent. Harder moving around heavier but it makes you a better athlete. i want to rep 160kg on the backsquat eventually which will mean i can weigh up to 80kg .. but lean. not fat as i am now.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3050 on: July 13, 2016, 11:33:54 pm »
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If you're feeling strong at 79 and you can tolerate a recomp then do it. I'm at 91 and want to get to 87-88 but am happy to let volume dictate that as I seem to be losing around the waist anyway.

Also, if you feel stronger at that weight then what's a cpl of kg anyway.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3051 on: July 14, 2016, 12:02:03 am »
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Quote from: Coges on July 13, 2016, 11:33:54 pm
If you're feeling strong at 79 and you can tolerate a recomp then do it. I'm at 91 and want to get to 87-88 but am happy to let volume dictate that as I seem to be losing around the waist anyway.

Also, if you feel stronger at that weight then what's a cpl of kg anyway.

i was doubling 125kg as a front squat warmup on this bodyweight (the previous warmup set was 100kg)  ... now it's my BS 2rm lol. So i'm pretty weak in historical terms .. however .. i know in that space of 79-81kg i can be pretty strong .. but right now im not lean enough to justify maintaining 80kg if that makes sense
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3052 on: July 14, 2016, 12:12:16 am »
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Ok i'll embrace my adipose weight vest and use it to get stronger/fitter/powerful .. but i shud still be getting 1.5-2kg fat loss over 4 weeks .. im THAT fat still, but if i can replace some of that with muscle my bodyweight will stay more or less the same, maybe as low as 77.5kg. Not goign to talk any more about this .. i think that's the resolution lol
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3053 on: July 14, 2016, 12:14:49 am »
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Alright then. Go get it!
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3054 on: July 14, 2016, 03:16:17 am »
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^yup! :)

i went to shoot around at lunch time .. plan was to go for 50 3pt makes. only managed 25. I'm a disgrace lol. Will go back later before the game to get the remaining 25. I did notice when i switched to a roll the ball to myself thing, i got the makes easier. SO hopefully i can explore that to better quality solitary workouts from here...
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3055 on: July 14, 2016, 09:25:43 am »
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well that was the worst game of basketball in recent memory. pretty sure i went scoreless. i had a better showing in a pickup game prior to the game but my mind and body did not want to play a competitive full court game today. i'm disappointed in myself.
side note, i took some good confident shots off the catch in the pickup game. didnt make them but they felt good. did not do that in the match..
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« Reply #3056 on: July 14, 2016, 09:29:04 am »
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i missed everything even free throws.. lol. oh and to add insult to injury i lost my contact lense halfway thru the game .. to be honest that's probably a game i shud have predicted given how shitty i felt today in practice. all good, this makes me wanna work harder.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3057 on: July 15, 2016, 12:23:34 am »
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79.3kg / 174.8lb  (LPR)

I'm starting to think something holding me back in life is my mind. Time to fake it til i make it
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3058 on: July 15, 2016, 02:16:26 am »
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Quote from: maxent on July 15, 2016, 12:23:34 am
79.3kg / 174.8lb  (LPR)

I'm starting to think something holding me back in life is my mind. Time to fake it til i make it

This is the great equalizer. As the Henry Ford saying goes "whether you think you can or you think you can't- you're right"
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3059 on: July 15, 2016, 11:55:14 am »
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Quote from: Coges on July 15, 2016, 02:16:26 am
Quote from: maxent on July 15, 2016, 12:23:34 am
79.3kg / 174.8lb  (LPR)

I'm starting to think something holding me back in life is my mind. Time to fake it til i make it

This is the great equalizer. As the Henry Ford saying goes "whether you think you can or you think you can't- you're right"

I like the quote told like this better:

There are two kinds of people in this world.  Those that think they can and those that think they can't.  Both are right. 

My favorite Henry ford quote:

"The American people can have a car of any color they want as long as it's black"
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