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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2985 on: July 02, 2016, 06:47:05 am »
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BS 4x3x120(LPR), 2x2x120
BP 6x80(LPR), 2x6x79.5(LPR)
RDL 12x110, 10x150, 0Fx157.5 (da fuck?? it's my grip .. i cant unrack above 150kg.. why?)
WCU 4x102.9, 5x97.9, 2x6x90
LPD 2x6xwhatever stack
CRW 2x8xwhatever was on the stack

BW: 79.7kg (lpr, see previous post)

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damn that was some hard squatting. i need mo calories .. or at least get off the cut. will man up though and push thru the wall.

hurting .. im being thirsty .. i shud leave her alone but i keep trying to link up this weekend and she says she's sick. fuck this shit. is hud have just dated the 23 yaer old where the power dynamic was completely in my favour.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2986 on: July 02, 2016, 07:18:43 am »
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Grip strength is related to CNS fatigue isn't it?
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2987 on: July 02, 2016, 07:38:17 am »
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Grip strength is related to CNS fatigue isn't it?

local or global? i dont think global. I think if i put more on the bar instead of 150kg warmup i prob get it. It's that 2nd set. My hook grip is weak though. I need to figure out how to get myself unstuck. At least i shud maintain 2xbw RDL worksets... but 180kg is a better goal given i i was almost up to 200kg around the comp..

it's my hook grip, or prob my brain going nope this shit is too heavy for you, and my grip bails.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2988 on: July 02, 2016, 01:01:44 pm »
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^^^

I can see no reason why an athlete like yourself should attempt to do 200kg RDL without straps.  Especially because you are not doing 200kg RDL.  Your doing 200kg DL or some ugly hybrid thing. 

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2989 on: July 02, 2016, 10:14:23 pm »
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No starps, hook grip is better. But i dont even have a pair nor would i know how to use them if i did. When i was nearing 200kg worksets the ROM was suspect .. but it allowed me to do 180kg backoff sets with good form and rom so i know what it means to have a 200kg max. It's what it facilitates with "lighter" weight than im interested in..

anyway ...

im grieving round x2. i swear if she contacts me today to hang out im gonna flip out

plan for the day is to shoot a whole load of 3s and play some pickup. right hamstring is pretty sore tho, mainly from bench press lol lol
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2990 on: July 03, 2016, 05:02:47 am »
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balled pickup ... lots of games .. won most of them ... i beasted .. finished up wiht a game of 21 which i won. sunk like 4 3pts .. give me some space and im hitting that shit allll day. feels good man. cudnt dunk but i dont care, id rather perfect my jumpshot wooho.

when im practising shooting 3, i'll hit the first 6 in a row, then start to miss cos fatigue. but i will improve on that as i get stronger. then i'll be hitting 8 before missing, hopefully.

i did a dream like move. not fucking hakeem, i mean the word dream. went up for a layup on the left side, drew the defender into a block, drifted thru the air and came out the the other side and laid it in around the rim. everyone was like woah, some guy said "hangtime" and i cudnt believe i pulled it off! :)
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2991 on: July 03, 2016, 09:24:31 pm »
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In summer when i was preparing for the comp i could hardly get ONE game since there is so much demand for spots. But come winter and games are just propping up regularly without even me seeking them out.

THe basketball gods have been kind to me.. maybe overly so .. a guy from yesterday's pickup asked if i wanted to play tonight. "It's my rest day bro" i wanted to say but i said im in. Do you think im making a mistake? Let me know in the comment section below
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2992 on: July 03, 2016, 09:32:45 pm »
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straps are great, cheap and easy to use. being preoccupied with hook grip is just dumb ego unless you're trying to compete in PL and even then training with straps makes sense a lot of the time.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2993 on: July 03, 2016, 09:38:44 pm »
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straps are great, cheap and easy to use. being preoccupied with hook grip is just dumb ego unless you're trying to compete in PL and even then training with straps makes sense a lot of the time.

im not sure. i think last time when i did RDLs i just used DOH alll the way up to 140kg worksets then i switched to hook grip and kept going up to 200kg ish. My grip kept pace. but now that im rebuilding, i prob shud have started with DOH worksets up to 150kg and then switched over? i didnt though, i just use DOH for 110kg warmups then i go to hook for the 150kg warmup. I'll figure it out, it's not too much of a hassle cos im still making my hamstrings a bit sore anyway.

but yeah i need to get myself unstuck and then stay unstuck!

BW: 79.2kg (LPR!) getting close to my goal weight of a stable post-cut bodyweight of <79kg. and it's the morning of day 8. Was thinking 77.5kg on day 21 is probably a good place to come off the cut. Then maintain and get strong as fuck. Actually when i say maintain, i mean a recomp cos i will likely still be too fat to stick at that bodyfat%. But recomp just means a smaller deficit anyway.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2994 on: July 03, 2016, 10:48:01 pm »
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In summer when i was preparing for the comp i could hardly get ONE game since there is so much demand for spots. But come winter and games are just propping up regularly without even me seeking them out.

THe basketball gods have been kind to me.. maybe overly so .. a guy from yesterday's pickup asked if i wanted to play tonight. "It's my rest day bro" i wanted to say but i said im in. Do you think im making a mistake? Let me know in the comment section below

You made the right call. Balling is always better. Just think it's conditioning work, movement efficiency, jump practice and ball practice all rolled into one.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2995 on: July 03, 2016, 11:06:14 pm »
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straps are great, cheap and easy to use. being preoccupied with hook grip is just dumb ego unless you're trying to compete in PL and even then training with straps makes sense a lot of the time.

im not sure. i think last time when i did RDLs i just used DOH alll the way up to 140kg worksets then i switched to hook grip and kept going up to 200kg ish. My grip kept pace. but now that im rebuilding, i prob shud have started with DOH worksets up to 150kg and then switched over? i didnt though, i just use DOH for 110kg warmups then i go to hook for the 150kg warmup. I'll figure it out, it's not too much of a hassle cos im still making my hamstrings a bit sore anyway.

but yeah i need to get myself unstuck and then stay unstuck!

BW: 79.2kg (LPR!) getting close to my goal weight of a stable post-cut bodyweight of <79kg. and it's the morning of day 8. Was thinking 77.5kg on day 21 is probably a good place to come off the cut. Then maintain and get strong as fuck. Actually when i say maintain, i mean a recomp cos i will likely still be too fat to stick at that bodyfat%. But recomp just means a smaller deficit anyway.

Maybe we have a different definition of what RDLs are?  You are RDLing 200kg?  That seems out of the world too me given your other strength levels.  I have gotten my conventional deadlift up to 600lbs and still never done RDLs with more than 275, usually my RDLs were at 185-225lbs...

I mean maybe your just a deadlift and grip beast but for all the athletes I have seen do RDLs - about 50% of deadlift max is about right for work sets of 6-10 reps.  I mean have you tried normal deadlifts?  For a single I would imagine your at about 350kg based on your RDL.

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2996 on: July 03, 2016, 11:16:16 pm »
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Ok i dont know if i ever got up to 200kg. The closest i could find looking back in my log was this entry

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RDL 8x150(warmup PR), 4x192.5(PR), 10x180(PR)

on april 18th and i weighed under 180lb at the time.

so yeah it was something i was working towards but didn't get there before i had to stop training the rdl regularly. i did set myself the goal to get to 200kg though and i still think i wanna do that. i dont deadlift, not a good lift for me, risk of injury is almost 100% and im not revisiting it again, learnt that the hard way. i do think im skilled at pulling .. long arms, strong hands and leverages favouring the lift don't hurt.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2997 on: July 03, 2016, 11:48:49 pm »
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Ok i dont know if i ever got up to 200kg. The closest i could find looking back in my log was this entry

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RDL 8x150(warmup PR), 4x192.5(PR), 10x180(PR)

on april 18th and i weighed under 180lb at the time.

so yeah it was something i was working towards but didn't get there before i had to stop training the rdl regularly. i did set myself the goal to get to 200kg though and i still think i wanna do that. i dont deadlift, not a good lift for me, risk of injury is almost 100% and im not revisiting it again, learnt that the hard way. i do think im skilled at pulling .. long arms, strong hands and leverages favouring the lift don't hurt.

I'm not super high on deadlifting either...  But if I was knocking out 10 reps of what I call RDLs without straps at under 180 you can be sure I'd bulk to 200 and at the very least get in one legit 800lb deadlift!

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« Reply #2998 on: July 04, 2016, 12:25:48 am »
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haha fair callout. I was going to upload a video but it looks like i disconnected my HDD when i plugged in my new SSD cos i didnt have enough power ports (at the time) to keep both powered. I guess i'll just have to take one when i get the 200kg PR though :)
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« Reply #2999 on: July 04, 2016, 08:21:04 am »
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Day 8 is done and dusted. I had the usual shake at 3pm. Then chicken, rice, shake for dinner. I shud get to my 10 day goal weight of <79kg. And on thursday ima add eggs/toast to meal 1, which will be nice. Leaning out like you thought i wud ... call the crib, the same number same hood, its all good.

I might be training someone to dunk which is exciting .. ive never done that before. woooho.
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