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^That weight vest the others got looks so much cooler .. oh well!

So apparently using a weigh vest with 16lb (the study said) amounts to burning a measly 30kcal more over a period of an hour while walking. This is not really worth the trouble. Would be more effective to just eat 30kcal less (so easy) and stay fresher to squat more? Why bother with this shit? I'm not sure using a weight vest makes any sense for my goals. I do feel that for example calves will get smaller/weaker on a cut due to loss of bodyweight .. and maybe the vest can help prevent that? Or it can do some other good things (for performance) but i doubt it has much of an effect on calories out. It changes TDEE not BMR cause you don't actually have +X more metabolically active tissue, it's just dead weight which only comes into play during exercise -- which amounts to a few hundred calories at most (and prob less). Or maybe it affects NEAT as well though i doubt it, cause i shake my legs when sitting, that is not affected by wearing a vest lol.

I think it's better to do unweighted aerobic exercise at bodyweight and get HR up for my goals than it is to suffer to through fasted walking with a vest.

But i am in two minds about the vest too. Imagine cutting to 75kg (say), if i maintain an effective bodyweight of 85-90kg throughout the cut, im sure by the end of the cut i'll be a far better athlete. That's my gut feel. Cause at some point when you are so light, your body prob gets a lot weaker just from not having much weight on you.. if that makes sense..

I started  ec stack today. I didn't wanna deal with hunger through will power alone. I can do it wiithout but it becomes obsessive and i need to focus my mental energies towards more important things than fucking food and training.. so i'm happy to make the change. Took my first dose in teh PM and found myself feeling so full of energy somehow ended up at the basketball court .. tried dunking with the WV but couldnt reach the rim with ball in hand .. haha. It's funny though, ive def dunked while weighing 90kg  even 100kg.. easily infact.. but i guess im out of shape right now and that's the main reason.. even dunking at bodyweight is far from easy.. i stil lcant tomawk .. though my one hand dunks feel really high, i havent actually video'd to check ..

I think its much easier to just eat 30cal less. I do think, however, wearing a vest for a long time will have some nice potentiation for your vert when you take it off after cutting. Also helps with calf size.

I think you should keep slowly cutting for as long as youre able to keep your strength. Then recomp. Have you tried intermittent fasting? For me its a great way to deal with the hunger. I eat from 7pm to midnight. But you can do up to an 8hr eating window. Skipping breakfast and lunch aint so bad; if i dont eat, my appetite isnt triggered. I dont get lightheaded either since i dont have any insulin response to food when fasting. Then i go to bed on a full stomach and am still at a caloric deficit.

It's ridiculous isn't. Im looking at my calories-in for the day and figuring out what to have for dinner and adding 2 slices of wholemeal bread mean +161 calories. 161! 2 slices is nothing .. and yes to get that much out of exercise would be a proper mission. This is stuff i already knew but i guess i needed a reminder how important diet is when it comes to influencing the cals in vs cals out balance. So now do i wanna be -161kcal or not? That decision seems so easy to make compared to commiting to that much exercise.. crazy.

Yeah mate, I already do IF. It's good. I try to do fasted walking which i think helps you lean out, as you get closer to and below 10%. It's kinda pointless doing it right now but im all in or nothing kinda guy so im doing it anyways. I do like the idea of going to bed with a full stomach --> good sleep --> good performance on the next days squatting as opposed to being hungry and sleepless. Even when you are asleep you dont fall very deeply. It's related to carbs as well, enough carbs and you sleep like a baby. Protein also. I'll log my food intake for today below.

DO you wear it to bed as well? Or just waking hours? And that might be why im skeptical of seeing these potentiating effects.. i haven't used it for longer than a few hours at a time and they haven't really been amazing when i took it off lol. I guess i cant really compare them because i haven't peaked my vert prior to introducing a vest. But we'll see if it has performance benefits.. i'm not really looking for those right this moment though.. have to find movement efficiency first before experimenting with all these icing-the-cake things. I do want to see my calves hold their size though. so if that happens i'll be happy with using a vest!

Would it be annoying if i logged my food and activity daily? It wont be forever, maybe for 7 days before I stop doing daily updates? Let me know.

nope! go4it.

waking hours only, but i've been wearing it 12-14 hours/day. effect is undeniable.

Ok. So now im not sure if i should first focus on getting back to previous levels of athletic performance FIRST. Then start the vest experiment. Maybe i'll do it in 2 phases, first one i just use it to maintain effective BW throughout leaning out. Then re-attain my previous levels of performance (=PRs, etc). Then put on the vest for the 2nd time and this time focus on reaching new PRs? That would prob work.

Imagining if i finally get a 40" vertical! So tantalising 

I think it is not the right time to use hypergravity, you are currently in a 'get back at it' phase.
Just think of hypergravity as a peaking tool. Save those 2-3 inches for when they will really make the change, taking you from 37 to 40 instead of, say, 32 to 35.
Also, it doesn't have to be an all-time PR period, it is not a one-off thing. If you feel after a few weeks of strength training you want to peak and test, go for it. Later in the season, when another peaking period comes, you can use it again.

I agree with you vag that it's not the right time. I just need to convince my ego that. But i want to do everything and anything, as usual. And im my own worst enemy when it comes to training ADD and what not.