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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2025 on: August 03, 2014, 09:10:01 pm »
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starting to get to me.

wat.

Mentally?

lol. i broke down. got through the stupid 24hr period, had a healthy breakfast (for dinner) of one slice of wholemeal bread, 2 eggs, protein shake. and some veges. And as i was about to knock out, my bro and sis show up with a whole load of thai food.  So that was the end of that, i didn't have the mental discipline left to fight that having used all of it up during the day. Now i'll diet longer. FML..
Goals: Cutting to 6-8% bodyfat

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2026 on: August 03, 2014, 11:06:11 pm »
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I'm wondering if i've just been going thru ketosis adaptation? May be just a phase and I shud just keep cuting. I like the idea of finishing this cut at a lean 77kg which means the next one will be from 77->.74 or whatever it will need to be for 6-8% bodyfat. This prob means though that im currently closer to 20% than i am to 10% or in otherwords above 15%. I think around 77kg is when i start to look lean if i remember correctly from last year's cut.

But to keep cutting from here will have to make some changes. I'll take it easier on training. Think i'll do something like this:

Monday: Squats + HIIT sprint intervals + steady state jog (about 2km), upper body work

Weds: upper body work and steady state jog

Fri: Squats +  HIIT sprint intervals + steady state jog.

Take off rest days proper, no TM work on those days to save my legs and hips. And this shud allow me to continue cutting bodyfat while extending the duration of the cut to say another 2 weeks if need be. My goal is to get the scale to show 77.5kg or so, which means even if i gain a bit of water weight post-cut, i can balance that out by burning off the remaining visceral bodyfat to maintain a 77kg ish bodyweight overall.

Btw the fact i still have visceral fat is one very good reason to believe im curently above mid teens bodyfat. Both good news and bad. Means i can get a lot lighter. But bad news in that have a lot of cutting ahead yet.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2027 on: August 03, 2014, 11:36:58 pm »
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I feel like hitting my head against a brick wall when I read your journal sometimes entropy. On the one hand I admire your dedication and your willpower to stick to these 1000 calorie per day diets. On the other hand I just don't see why you wouldn't just losen up a little bit and clean bulk since this whole bulk/cut business is going around in circles.

Btw there's no way in hell that you're 'in the mid-teens bodyfat'...Even if you were in the mid teens bodyfat at 6'4 80kg you're only going to end up skinnyfat with this insistence on cutting down to a stick figure on 1000 calories a day. Find some middle ground and you'll feel a lot better mentally as well instead of feeling guilty about eating food. Plus all this stress with dieting and bodyfat is going to increase your cortisol, which has a destructive effect on testosterone.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2028 on: August 04, 2014, 04:21:33 am »
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. On the other hand I just don't see why you wouldn't just losen up a little bit and clean bulk since this whole bulk/cut business is going around in circles. 

That's exactly what im gonna do lol. Burn off all this bodyfat and then start from scratch.  Gain back some bodyweight, some muscle, some nice fat (as opposed to horrible visceral or abdominal fat!) and maintain a decent level of fitness and athleticism. I'm not going to gain more than 5kg of BW at a time and even that will be done slowly and cleanly.

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Btw there's no way in hell that you're 'in the mid-teens bodyfat'...Even if you were in the mid teens bodyfat at 6'4 80kg you're only going to end up skinnyfat with this insistence on cutting down to a stick figure on 1000 calories a day. Find some middle ground and you'll feel a lot better mentally as well instead of feeling guilty about eating food. Plus all this stress with dieting and bodyfat is going to increase your cortisol, which has a destructive effect on testosterone.

I actually am somewhere around 15%. I can't be sure whether it's less or more, the visceral fat still being there points to being above, but maybe im a special snowflake and i hold on to visceral fat for longer than most people, idk, it doesn't matter, i have to keep cutting. Gett rid of all this fat and start rebuilding myself from scratch.

The effect of holding on to this fat means i can never really be strong/lean/healthy. Visceral fat does some nasty things, makes you fatter when you bulk etc. Also it doesn't help t-levels not being lean (legit 10%). So i have to do this cutting for the best results moving forward.
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chasing athleticism -- W2D1
« Reply #2029 on: August 04, 2014, 05:51:09 am »
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Bodyweight:   80kg/176lb
Fasted duration: 24hrs (ended 2010)

Training
FS 3x100, 2x112.5

BP 2x80, 1x85, 1x87.5, 5x77.5, 6x75
CRLZ 3x40, 5x45, 6x42.5, 6x40
DUNZ 2x3  (cant even grip the ball right now haha - have to use both hands to dunk)

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« Last Edit: August 04, 2014, 08:11:25 am by entropy »
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2030 on: August 05, 2014, 11:01:20 pm »
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Bodyweight: 78.7kg/173.5lb
Waist: 33"

caffeine:400mg @10am, 200mg @ 1230, 200mg @ 1430, 200mg @ 1700
h5tp: 50mg @ 1300, 50mg @1500

Laying off training is helping considerably, i no longer want to kill myself. Don't get me wrong, still pretty hard going but a lot more manageable, i can see me dieting for a while longer this way. Have set my eyes on getting down to 77kg. Have a feeling when i get there, i'll be reasonable lean as in maybe 12% or less. Idk, we'll see how it goes.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2014, 05:00:03 am by entropy »
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2031 on: August 05, 2014, 11:33:30 pm »
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My bet is it'll be 74kg but hopefully you can achieve 12% at 77kg.
Maybe your body's different though but for me I struggle to lose 1% bodyfat for every 1kg of weight loss, let alone 3% bodyfat for 1kg.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2014, 11:40:44 pm by Mutumbo000 »
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2032 on: August 05, 2014, 11:48:08 pm »
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My bet is it'll be 74kg but hopefully you can achieve 12% at 77kg.
Maybe your body's different though but for me I struggle to lose 1% bodyfat for every 1kg of weight loss, let alone 3% bodyfat for 1kg.

Yeah,  im not married to 12% @ 77kg, more like i'm going to end this cut at 77kg when i've reached that weight regardless of what bodyfat % may be then. It's a measurable, concrete goal as opposed to bodyfat % which is abstract and unmeasurable for the purposes of progress tracking. I do anticipate a future cut needing to go as low as 72.5kg to reach my final goal, so we'll see what happens when i've got to 77.5kg, 75kg and 72.5kg.  For the record my plan is to finish this cut at 77kg. Maybe the next one will go 77->74. And the last one will go 74->72.5 or something like that.



lebron right now .. inspiration for athletic cutters everywhere <3
« Last Edit: August 06, 2014, 06:40:20 am by entropy »
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2033 on: August 06, 2014, 02:18:43 am »
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Haha that LeBron picture looks disturbing... like he's sick or something
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All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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chasing athleticism -- W2D2
« Reply #2034 on: August 06, 2014, 11:15:30 pm »
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Bodyweight: 77.95kg/171.85lb
Waist: Under 33"



On the right track but im not too excited, 77kg is still a legit, formidable goal. I have no doubt if i get there i'll in a good place. Just not anywhere near it right now. Training to come today as well.

Training
FBS 1x118.5
BS 5x107.5, 5x105

OHP 1x57.5, 3x55, 5x53.5, 5x52.5
WCU 3x80, 2x90, 1x95, 2x100, 3x95, 5x92.5, 5x90, 6x85

Squat notes: 
Having to psyche up for ridiculous light warmup weights sucks, especially when they feel like ugly 1rms and not even technical maxes for that matter. But i'm quite carb depleted, fasted and been dieting a while. These things are to be expected. Just hope i can bounce out this slump when i come off the cut.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2014, 06:52:45 am by entropy »
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2035 on: August 07, 2014, 07:09:43 am »
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I hurt my back backsquatting (again). Fuck that shit. Idk why im hurting myself with such a light weight but it is what it is. It's just after the sticking point or around there. So i can't really walk right now. It means i cudnt do any conditioning today even tho it wuda been good to get a session of HIIT sprints and jogging in today!

I've decided to do a carb reload tonight. Only because if i dont do it today, i have to wait til monday when i train again, and that might be too long. Plus it will mean an especially painful training sesh on monday being so woefully depleted. This probably helps me do another week of cutting without getting too fucked up mentally. So lets do it! :)
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Re: chasing athleticism (im a bitch)
« Reply #2036 on: August 07, 2014, 09:31:28 am »
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Not really but it's a valid statement when it comes to teh way my body has stored bodyfat. Women store bodyfat mainly in the lower body, around the hips, lower back, buttocks and chest. That's kinda how I do too. It explains why i  have visible abs so early in my cuts. The idea is i'll have a six pac long before im done cutting because of this. Lets see if it holds true.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2037 on: August 07, 2014, 10:57:38 pm »
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I'm looking to order some stuff of eastbay with the 20% off on $200 order deal. Usually regret most of my nondescript online shopping decisions, so i'm looking for input before I put the order through lol



Spefically does it make any sense to get 3/4 length compression gear? I have no idea why you'd want those compared to full length ones? Better get 2 pairs of full length insteaad? idk.

Also need basketball shoes but my last 3 pairs have been shit so im reluctant to drop  $130-150 on a pair of kd 7s or something or nike zooms and then regret it. my ideal shoe is lightweight, flexible, low top and not stupidly expensive. recommendations or suggetions welcome...
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2038 on: August 07, 2014, 11:23:09 pm »
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I can't imagine there's a good reason to get 3/4 compressions unless you want some capri pants to go with your favourite pair of heels  :P

The last pair of ball shoes I bought were hyperdunks. Don't know if they come in low tops or not. They're super light, grippy, hold the foot well but pretty hard on the feet. I got my last pair for $80 plus postage.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2039 on: August 07, 2014, 11:40:37 pm »
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haha, true.  Im prob just gna get 1 pair, they are excluded from 20% off when i get the pair deal. I hate this site so much.



Also hyperdunks 2014 look so damn sexy but they dont have my size (12.5). It's possible i cud get away with 12 but i dont wanna take that chance :(  $129 btw
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