Author Topic: chasing athleticism (Read 1464620 times)

LBSS · « **Reply #4695 on:** March 14, 2019, 08:31:27 am »

Quote from: maxent on March 14, 2019, 06:38:13 am

i dunked it. they were all in awe.

ive never ever dunked in a game lol.

deserves the

treatment IMHO

maxent · « **Reply #4696 on:** March 16, 2019, 03:21:09 am »

Not sure what happened but my knee has felt off yesterday and today. I dont know the language to describe it exactly but if i do the following:

1 stand up straight
2. raise my knee slightly
3. raise my foot up towards my butt
4. straighten my leg

and something gets stuck in the knee

adarqui · « **Reply #4697 on:** March 17, 2019, 12:22:34 am »

Quote from: maxent on March 16, 2019, 03:21:09 am

Not sure what happened but my knee has felt off yesterday and today. I dont know the language to describe it exactly but if i do the following:

1 stand up straight
2. raise my knee slightly
3. raise my foot up towards my butt
4. straighten my leg

and something gets stuck in the knee

damn dude. hope it's nothing.

maxent · « **Reply #4698 on:** March 17, 2019, 12:46:39 am »

Quote from: adarqui on March 17, 2019, 12:22:34 am

Quote from: maxent on March 16, 2019, 03:21:09 am
Not sure what happened but my knee has felt off yesterday and today. I dont know the language to describe it exactly but if i do the following:

1 stand up straight
2. raise my knee slightly
3. raise my foot up towards my butt
4. straighten my leg

and something gets stuck in the knee

damn dude. hope it's nothing.

i made it worse yesterday morning by 'testing' it. i think it started when i did that first treadmill run. Just giving it a bit of rest, it felt better today morning. And im not trying to bother it. I really hope i can train normally soon. But need to be careful from here. Just going to focus on upper body. I need training as my outlet otherwise i'll lose my mind. But if i focus on adding some kilos to my ohp or dips i'lll be fine. Hopefully.

Coges · « **Reply #4699 on:** March 17, 2019, 07:08:18 pm »

Quote from: maxent on March 14, 2019, 06:27:32 am

This is solid advice. I think i will need to make a list of moves and i can pick the 2 moves i'll go with for off-the dribble and for in the post? Let me put some up on insta and you can tell me which one has more chance of a)mastery and b)effectiveness.

I need to figure out how to use the jump stop to get some spacing to go into a dunk. Also i need to do some low rim dunking with the size 6 ball to get the movement pattern down. Right now i can't even do a two hand dunk leave alone a tomahawk. This isn't because i can't jump (can still hit a 35" rvj apparently) but because i dont know have the movement efficiency down to do it? Legit if i can get a couple of dunks in game .. it will have a psychological effect that hopefully will help my team. Just a session or two if i can fit one in will get me that back and then i don't have to do anymore dunking specific workouts hopefully.

Mate congrats in the in game dunk. I know it's only pick up but that's a huge step towards more in game dunks. Also hope the knee recovers as quickly as possible.

Over the weekend I was thinking about what moves I would focus on if I was you. I would go with a hesitation dribble into a layup or pull up jumper. If you can get this quick there's not too many people (normal players) who will stop you from getting past them. You can then add the crossover, step back, etc once you are more confident. I would suggest that if you have a hesi with a pull up and a cross over you will destroy most social (even A grade) players.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql9AYz0rwpY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql9AYz0rwpY</a>
*disclaimer- not a great video but gives you the basic idea in case you aren't aware.

For the post I would get your turn around jumper (back to the basket move) and then once face the basket jumper. Add in a pump fake every now and then, 1 dribble and finish with a dunk

Seriously though, you're a left with a high shooting action and you can jump. There shouldn't be too many people who can stop you in the post with your jump shot.

maxent · « **Reply #4700 on:** March 20, 2019, 05:22:36 am »

Those shud be within my abilities. I didn't really expect to be injured at htis point so timing has been bad. But i feel pretty good now so im looking forward to training normally starting tmr. Learning exp but it was a combo of not keeping up the daily heavy squatting, which i think keeps me from getting in too much trouble ha ha. It keeps me fatigued enough that i don't do 'too much'. The problem was i playing ball on hard wood with my hard soled shoes and i also threw in some max attempt jumps including with the vest. And on the same day i had done 5 doubles of 150kg .. which shouldn't be an issue if i was trained for doing several sets of heavy doubles but i wasn't. Also lifting and jumping and all that has taken a toll on my right leg, it's beaten up my right calf too much and i think that's where this is all going wrong for me.

If i do jumping i need to work on using a LR plant more.. jumping off my L leg as SL training .. etc. The double leg rvj off RL plant is just brutal on my R leg. Especially when i weigh more than 90kg in the gym. At 35, i can't do all my jumping that way, it's just asking for trouble. And respect the weights, respect the hard surface, don't jump so much .. just try to get coordination down etc.

Coges · « **Reply #4701 on:** March 21, 2019, 12:27:45 am »

Quote from: maxent on March 20, 2019, 05:22:36 am

Those shud be within my abilities. I didn't really expect to be injured at htis point so timing has been bad. But i feel pretty good now so im looking forward to training normally starting tmr. Learning exp but it was a combo of not keeping up the daily heavy squatting, which i think keeps me from getting in too much trouble ha ha. It keeps me fatigued enough that i don't do 'too much'. The problem was i playing ball on hard wood with my hard soled shoes and i also threw in some max attempt jumps including with the vest. And on the same day i had done 5 doubles of 150kg .. which shouldn't be an issue if i was trained for doing several sets of heavy doubles but i wasn't. Also lifting and jumping and all that has taken a toll on my right leg, it's beaten up my right calf too much and i think that's where this is all going wrong for me.

If i do jumping i need to work on using a LR plant more.. jumping off my L leg as SL training .. etc. The double leg rvj off RL plant is just brutal on my R leg. Especially when i weigh more than 90kg in the gym. At 35, i can't do all my jumping that way, it's just asking for trouble. And respect the weights, respect the hard surface, don't jump so much .. just try to get coordination down etc.

Yeah man that's a lot of work in one day from not doing much.

With the jumping you should jump off all plants. Check out Chris's log for his experience in doing that. Getting balanced will be much more profitable for you. You don't need to jump that often though.

maxent · « **Reply #4702 on:** March 21, 2019, 06:51:10 am »

Bball update!

I felt real good today after resting a whole week since my last bball session where i messed up my R knee. I played a game of 21 against 2 guys .. which is nice cos you get better defence, at least on paper, if they both try that is. I took a couple of 3s and hit them all, pulled up inside the 3pt line off the dribble a few times and connected them all. Felt unstoppable. If they overplayed me i was able to get past them otherwise my jumper was locked on. A couple of drives (just to check). Was dominating easily, my score was 11 and the others were around 3 or 4. I got one huge block which ifelt bad about .. one of those volleyball type blocks. Initially i was thinking to dunk but one of the guys said something about just dont dunk on me which killed my motivation .. cos i work better thinking im an underdog and to have someone think i was capable of dunking on them just deflated me cos im no where that level. But i did find the best way to do it would be to cross someone up at the top and then use that space to attack the rim. Otherwise i just dont see how you can make the space to setup for a dunk???????? Obviously game time if your'e facing a zone you're almost never going to have that chance

esp when you're a 4

Messed around with the LR plant today. It feels ........ amazing when you connect on a dunk but if you miss it feels really .. out of control? But this is the proper way to jump and when i view the video it looks more correct so im just gonna have to get used to it. I wish i was getting a bit more height on the jump but it was a good start today. Need to make it smoother and seemless. I've pretty much realised im a much better player operating on the L side of the rim .. even in a postup i can get my shot off much easier .. i can drive much easier ... i can score much easier .. it's my space .. but ive always done my jump training.. like 100% on the R side, which doesn't translate to game space where I'm just too unathletic on the R side to use the training gains.

I couldnt really grip the ball .. it was a hot sticky day .. humid af .. and i didnt get much sleep either which meant my CNS was weak which meant my grip was weak. I couldnt even grip a size 6 which i took with me just in case the 7 was too big today.

So just need to keep working on making the plant more natural. Right now it feels like a waste of time doing something where im much more limited in compared to my PR level jumps. But RL jumping never got anything except being a warmup dunker .. if i can't apply my jumping to game time then what good is it? May just be that by sticking to the LR plant i can eventually carry it over to games cos im much stronger on the L side and it might just be what gets me in the right positions for a gametime dunk.

maxent · « **Reply #4703 on:** March 21, 2019, 11:29:54 pm »

So im running out of time to get in shape, i decided i'd start actively cutting now. Will maintain my squat at a hopeful 160kg daily. I'm not there yet, will be going for a 157.5kg single today. Daily cardio (ofc), at least 10k steps/day .. reduce calories .. try to ball everyday. That's the plan. Bodyweight is 88.8kg and the goal is to see the scale read sub 86kg by end of cut. Hopefully that happens in less than 3 weeks cos i need some time (a week at least) to recover from cutting before the comp (28 days to go). Sub 86kg is ideal case. Just cause psychologically it will feel good to see it read 85.x kg which is close to my ideal bw of 85kg. In reality i should be happy with anything under 87kg given the limited timeframe.

maxent · « **Reply #4704 on:** March 22, 2019, 10:52:14 am »

Bodyweight(AM): 88.6kg (22 March)
Diet compliance: 0/0 days
Daily Squat: 122/22 days 
Activity: 14

Morning:

   Shooting, 30 min

Noon:

   BS 6x120, 1x140, 1x160
   OHP 8x50, 6x57.5
Evening: Run/Walk -5km

Notes:

That 160kg was too heavy, im not sure how it went up (not cleanly and yet the guy nearby complimented my form, i told him it was dirty! and he said but you have good form. ok?). The whole thing is worthy of a rant i'll enter below.
Morning bball is a bad idea .. i just dont feel like going too hard in the mornings .. i dont want to stress my joints etc too much. is this dumb? Im not sure. Evening ones post lifting i can go more hard no problem
Finalllly did my first outdoor run in what must be like 2 months. damn. i was flying .. i did the first km in sub 5 min/km pace .. and for a while i was maintaing 3:xx/km pace which is insane. I think if i trained for it i def cud get a 22:30 now .. it just feels more attainable than it used to be. ANDD i was running against the wind too and i didnt eat carbs during the day .. i was fasted except for a shake in the morning. So pretty exciting stuff on that front ..
Ive taken a pretty big caloric deficit .. just want to finish the cut asap .. now im thinking max 14 days.

maxent · « **Reply #4705 on:** March 23, 2019, 12:29:16 am »

Bodyweight(AM): 88.0kg (23 March)
Diet compliance: 1/14 days
Daily Squat: 122/122 days 
Activity: 13

Morning:

  BS 1x140, 1x157.5
  OHP 8x50, 6x57.5

Noon:

  Bball - 90 mins  
Evening: Sprint session

Notes:

this was an insane day of training, i didnt eat my first solid meal til 10:30pm.
Couldnt sleep, friend wanted to ball with me at noon so i rushed a lift session in the morning which was a struggle, esp fasted because i didnt have time to eat .. i did take some BCAA's just for something.

maxent · « **Reply #4706 on:** March 23, 2019, 11:17:36 pm »

Bodyweight(AM): 86.9kg (24 March)
Diet compliance: 2/13 days
Daily Squat: 122/122 days 
Activity: 8.5

Morning:

   30 min cardio (bike & rowing)

Noon:

 BS 1x140
   OHP 8x40 
Evening: Walk - 20 min

Notes:

really rough weekend .. going to try recover and not do much

maxent · « **Reply #4707 on:** March 23, 2019, 11:21:52 pm »

Bball session yesterday was really frustrating. We played 3v3 and 4v4. It was very competitive. My body let me down, i was like 3 steps behind my brain. Kept getting stripped or not being able to even start a move properly. I think that's lack of sleep, no food, etc but still, got me down.

So im down to 86.9kg and it's only the morning of the 3rd day. I am cutting carbs v. heavily to drop the glycogen so my body can start using fat preferentially for energy. Just hope i can maintain my strength and muscle. It should be fine if i eat enough protein but yesterday i just didnt get time to eat enough meals. I was one shake short which is shit cos it's 60g of pro that i obviously need.

So ive lost a bit of water now and im starting to look not so bad .. which means its a sign to increase protein to increase the chance of muscle & strength retention. Optimistic of ending the cut somewhere with a better squat ratio and fitness/bodycomp. That's going to be close to my lifetime peak. But taking it a day at a time.

maxent · « **Reply #4708 on:** March 25, 2019, 12:07:28 am »

Hit 86.6kg today. Back is stiff, perhaps it's a spinal thing i think rather than erectors? Im prob going to cut it short to 7 or 10 days now. Not sure. Need some rest, haven't been sleeping well at all.

maxent · « **Reply #4709 on:** March 25, 2019, 10:04:49 pm »

Bodyweight(AM): 86.1kg (26 March)
Diet compliance: 5/10 days
Daily Squat: 128/128 days 
Activity:

Morning:

Noon:

  
Evening: BS 2x8x20, OHP 8x20

Notes:

~~Goign to train hard today. Lets see how it goes.~~.

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