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Re: chasing athleticism - summer 19
« Reply #4590 on: January 15, 2019, 08:21:01 pm »
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i dont get the swahili statement. lol. im too lazy to learn another language. :ninja:

Fair enough. I thought you might wanna learn from your insta and love for Kenyan running. I'm the same, i'll prob find the reality of learning gets too tedious once the initial hype has worn off. But daily training has kinda opened my eyes on what you can accomplish by just doing a little bit every day, it just seems to 'work' even if you're not working very hard every time. Last night run i looked at my watch and around 4km i was maintaining a 5 min/km pace .. submax .. which is what my fast runs used to be like .. though it's been forever since i've done one of those outside. That's with a full days worth of eating and drinking and shoes clothes im prob around 87.5kg i'd say. So a lot heavier than when i started off with a gym weight of 82kg. It seems the fitness benefit of just punching the clock regularly and getting those easy miles in without straining seems to be the key. I've even found it affecting the way i do squatting now .. im finding that by building up higher number of reps with lighter weight that as i progress those sets the heavier weights are easier to rep and i guess that's the secret .. to just rep more with more over time. Really regret sticking to lower reps for most of my training .. it just doesn't work as well to be a bit more patient and build up reps instead even though it's not as sexy as pushing limit weights.

This is a round about way of saying im going to try the daily approach to other things including:
  • learning a language (swahili and maybe swedish)
  • writing code daily
  • maths daily

and that's all i got for far but im going to keep looking for things to apply the same approach to that i've always wanted to get good at
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« Reply #4591 on: January 15, 2019, 08:50:58 pm »
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Bodyweight(AM): 85.7kg (16 Jan)
Diet compliance: 2/2 days
Daily Squat: 60/60 days
Daily Run: 60/60 days
Basketball skill work:
Morning:
 

Noon:
  BS 6x100, 1x155, 12x127.5(PR)
  Dips 3x8x24kg, 15xBW

Evening:
  Run - 5km, 34:52, 06:57/km pace

Notes:
  • Going to start eating more in the morning so i can eat less food at night, especially carbs. Have been having too large meals at night and it affects sleep quality and quantity. Also metabolism is slowest at night so it's not optimal. Better to get the food in while metabolic rate is higher.
  • Went 10 days since last dips workout. Good bye abs .. i feel them pretty torched already .. squat tmr will be brutal.
  • Right first day of pushing calories away from dinner without eating less. Lets see if it leads to better results (recovery, sleep etc).
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4592 on: January 16, 2019, 09:22:12 pm »
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Ok, 2 upper body workouts in 20 days is kind of bullshit. I'm not going to change anything anytime soon but in about 12 days i'll shift focus away from squats and to lower body. If i've learnt anything about my training is that i tend to get obsessed with one thing to the detriment of overall balance and that for 2019 i'd like to be mr 85% .. good or okay at all things, bad at nothing.  In the past i focused on lifting but nothing on conditioning, i've done something to address that but now to re-address balance upper body training needs some love too. It will give me a nice change of pace too, keep things fresh.
to add a few other neglected things to this list:
  • vertical jump work (depth jumps, jump jumps, etc)
  • sprint work
  • track assistance (bounds etc)
  • basketball skill work (shooting, dribbling, post moves, etc)
Also I think i need a sports massage badly. Might get one every 6 weeks or so. my last one was terrible, just before xmas, wanted to see what my health insurance would cover (hardly anything it turned out, maybe $20 and i paid the remaining $45 or so). I need to make sure i find a good place next time. thought i'd go to a proper professional one in dec and the guy was so bad .. like weak af .. ive had the best massages from little tiny ladies with pointy elbows at random chinese massage parlors in sydney and bangkok, so going to try find one of those instead of a white dude with a certificate. But ive prob been to some decent physios over the years, just can't be bothered with that. The guy pretty much carried out a boring conversation for the entire hour and i just want some peace and quiet and lots of pain, you know? Anyway.
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« Reply #4593 on: January 16, 2019, 09:43:58 pm »
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Bodyweight(AM): 85.6kg (17 Jan)
Diet compliance: 2/2 days
Daily Squat: 61/61 days
Daily Run: 61/61 days
Basketball skill work:
Morning:
  TM Run 5km, 35 mins

Noon:
  BS 6x120, 1x155, 20x110(PR)
  QL assistance - 1arm kb carries 
  BX 14x80kg(+band, PR)

Evening:
 

Notes:
  • Body feeling a bit beat up.
  • Was informed today im expected to play the 4 position. This is not great news .. i was prepping to play as a lean athletic 85kg. Not sure I can even play as a PF without being undersized. Any advice?
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Re: chasing athleticism - summer 19
« Reply #4594 on: January 17, 2019, 06:11:30 pm »
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Was informed today im expected to play the 4 position. This is not great news .. i was prepping to play as a lean athletic 85kg. Not sure I can even play as a PF without being undersized. Any advice?

What's the general competition like at the 4? When I've played the 4 and 5 are still relatively short (6-6'5) so being a lean 85 would not be so much of an issue. If you're looking at the 6'6-6'9 range then yeah you might need some more cushion for the pushin
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Re: chasing athleticism - summer 19
« Reply #4595 on: January 17, 2019, 08:49:28 pm »
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Was informed today im expected to play the 4 position. This is not great news .. i was prepping to play as a lean athletic 85kg. Not sure I can even play as a PF without being undersized. Any advice?

What's the general competition like at the 4? When I've played the 4 and 5 are still relatively short (6-6'5) so being a lean 85 would not be so much of an issue. If you're looking at the 6'6-6'9 range then yeah you might need some more cushion for the pushin

Not that much taller than that. But most guys would be 90-110kg range and average around 95kg i'd say. Also im pretty bad at pushing ppl out, i know that's prob a leverage thing .. but it could be my upper body being too weak. Dont have a clue what im doing in the post either lol.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4596 on: January 17, 2019, 08:58:01 pm »
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So im finding these longer sets of BS are not that challenging for the legs but they're pretty damn hard on the support structures. My erectors are singing and i feel all kinds of core discomfort during them. Which is exactly the point. Squats need to be heavy to challenge legs. Lighter squats don't do that. But by doing lots of reps you build the base which will eventually be used to use heavier weights later down the line that /do/ challenge the legs. What im trying to say is ive seen not much if any leg size increases or even strength for that matter. I hope im not gambling too much, my intuition says it's ok to master 120kg for 20 first then i'll be in a better position to tackle 15x140kg which would probably be enough to get my daily 170kg. Maybe i'll need to actually progress to a 8 or 10 rep 150kg set though before i can realise it. Im running out of time and patience with the daily squatting .. 11 more days of weight gain before i have to cap my eating. So not sure if i can pull this off. Going to treat each squat session as a valuable opportunity to do something special imho.
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Re: chasing athleticism - summer 19
« Reply #4597 on: January 17, 2019, 09:05:30 pm »
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Quote from: maxent on January 16, 2019, 09:43:58 pm
Was informed today im expected to play the 4 position. This is not great news .. i was prepping to play as a lean athletic 85kg. Not sure I can even play as a PF without being undersized. Any advice?

What's the general competition like at the 4? When I've played the 4 and 5 are still relatively short (6-6'5) so being a lean 85 would not be so much of an issue. If you're looking at the 6'6-6'9 range then yeah you might need some more cushion for the pushin

Not that much taller than that. But most guys would be 90-110kg range and average around 95kg i'd say. Also im pretty bad at pushing ppl out, i know that's prob a leverage thing .. but it could be my upper body being too weak. Dont have a clue what im doing in the post either lol.

imo boxing out is all leg and hip strength so you should be golden. If you get your leg across in front of them and push your hips (bum) back into them they simply can't jump over you. I normally play at 90kgs and I just go super aggressive on the boards. It's surprising how many guys just expect to be able to get rebounds.

Post play sucks. First thing is most guards hate giving it to you in the post so that's the biggest battle. You only really need 2/3 moves max though. A turn around jumper, a drop step and then a turn and face move. I like the turn and face then either a straight up bank shot or the pump fake 1 dribble lay-up/dish. A guy I used to play with had the best drop step spin. 9/10 he would go baseline with 1 dribble and finish over the help. I'm making it sound way more simple than it is though haha.
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Re: chasing athleticism - summer 19
« Reply #4598 on: January 17, 2019, 09:30:41 pm »
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Quote from: Coges on January 17, 2019, 09:05:30 pm
imo boxing out is all leg and hip strength so you should be golden. If you get your leg across in front of them and push your hips (bum) back into them they simply can't jump over you. I normally play at 90kgs and I just go super aggressive on the boards. It's surprising how many guys just expect to be able to get rebounds.

Good stuff! Can you go more into the strategy of being super aggressive? I find when the shot goes up im just watching the ball thru space while it makes it way to the rim. It's like my legs find that to be the best time to sneak a bit of rest while the ball is up in the air  :uhhhfacepalm: that's part of being super unfit for basketball so i know i have terrible habits of conserving energy but i know it's a bad one. This is a new realisation too  :uhhhfacepalm:

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Post play sucks. First thing is most guards hate giving it to you in the post so that's the biggest battle.
As someone who 'thinks' like a guard but happens to be too tall to play one, i think they're not willing to put that pass to the ground when what they think is a bad situation (in their mind a guy turned away from the basket with a guy right on top of him while both are stationary is a bad decision because they're a guard and to them a good situation is having the offensive player moving while there is some space between the defender and they can see daylight. Guards are just fucking stupid though, it's the ultimate projecting what is good for you but not necessarily good for someone else.). Last week at pickup I was literally posting up on a guy who was too slow and weak to guard me in the post and im all but begging for the ball but the guards are like nah it's better in my hands than his. lol.

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You only really need 2/3 moves max though. A turn around jumper, a drop step and then a turn and face move. I like the turn and face then either a straight up bank shot or the pump fake 1 dribble lay-up/dish. A guy I used to play with had the best drop step spin. 9/10 he would go baseline with 1 dribble and finish over the help. I'm making it sound way more simple than it is though haha.
Yeah agree. I want to work on my spin off the defender with a nice amount of contact to make space because that's something i can pull off with my length and speed against someone relatively heavier, bigger and slower. The problem is as you describe even getting the ball in teh frist place
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Re: chasing athleticism - summer 19
« Reply #4599 on: January 17, 2019, 11:02:10 pm »
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Bodyweight(AM): 86.3kg (18 Jan)
Diet compliance: 3/3 days
Daily Squat: 62/62 days
Daily Run: 62/62 days
Basketball skill work:
Morning:
  TM Run 6km, 46 mins

Noon:
  BS 6x120, 1x157.5, 12x130(PR)

Evening:
 

Notes:
  • Every morning run i swear this is the last one, im done running. lol
  • Well thanks to the kids at the gym today for the inspiration. They were goofing around like kids do and it just annoyed me (which i embraced) and channeled my anger at getting firstly a heavy single of 157.5kg (wish i had gone for 160kg tbh to equal my lifetime raw PR) but especially the 130kg one. This isn't sustainable, i wont be able to find that kind of inspiration every time but today a)i needed it, b)it was there). Im finding it hard to just turn on the intensity like i'd been able to til now. Now i need to find it externally. At least today I did. 
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« Reply #4600 on: January 18, 2019, 02:25:11 am »
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these long slow runs are building the base for heavier efforts. just like light squats to build the base for heavy reps.
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« Reply #4601 on: January 18, 2019, 04:48:07 am »
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these long slow runs are building the base for heavier efforts. just like light squats to build the base for heavy reps.

beautiful analogy. agreed!
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Re: chasing athleticism - summer 19
« Reply #4602 on: January 18, 2019, 09:31:33 pm »
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Bodyweight(AM): 85.9kg (19 Jan)
Diet compliance: 4/4 days
Daily Squat: 63/63 days
Daily Cardio: 63/63 days
Basketball skill work:
Morning:
 

Noon:
  BS 6x120, 1x160(=PR), 15x120(PR)

Evening:
 Pickup bball ~ 1/2 court, ~1.5 hours 

Notes:
  • So with 10 days left of this weight gain phase im not sure what i want to end up. Maybe <87.5kg? <87kg? Not sure. Lets just eat to recover and deal with whatever i end up weighing.
  • been feeling really blue today .. didn't sleep much, just low. i went for a 160kg max and got it, on a better day i prob would have got it easier than how hard i made it look. All good.
  • Went hard in bball .. and skipped running in the morning, was a fkn 41 degree celcius day, yea no thanks. Change of template: daily running -> daily cardio will allow such substitutes from here
  • I had a big chocolate waffle cone after bball with a friend and bought some subway cookies on the way home to eat for dessert lol. The cone was literally melting too fast for me to eat, dm/dt > de/dt was crazy hot. Only 10 days of weight gain and i didn't get to eat enough but ate junk, what a waste. It's the worst choice, just get softer but not stronger or harder. 
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Re: chasing athleticism - summer 19
« Reply #4603 on: January 19, 2019, 10:05:17 pm »
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Bodyweight(AM): 85.8kg (20 Jan)
Diet compliance: 0/0 days
Daily Squat: 64/64 days
Daily Cardio: 64/64 days
Basketball skill work:
Morning:
 

Noon:
  BS 6x120, 1x155, 3x112.5(lol) 

Evening:
  Run 5.5km, 41:40, 07:30/km pace 

Notes:
  • Didn't get to eat properly yesterday so reset the counter. 9 days remaining of surplus. Feeling pretty beat up from basketball but that's to be expected.  Another 40 degree day(cue stringer bell), not sure i'll run. Maybe something ez in the evening if it gets cooler. 
  • The crossfit couple was training next to me today.  killed my buzz again. lol. I did the single and was going to go for a 21 rep PR with 112.5kg .. waited like 10 minutes then 15 minutes then 20 minutes for them to finish their crossfit workout. finally realised it wasn't gna happen and just went for it and 3 reps in i realised id gone cold and today was a write off.
  • Basically we dont have bumper plates at the gym. They're colour coded like bumpers but they're hard plastic (polyuthrane iirc). These geniuses were dropping them from overhead and it made a loud bang. It didn't clue them in that they had double collared each side of their bars .. maybe just maybe this would lead them to reconsider but idk. Jackasses.
  • I went for an evening run. It was probably the first proper slow run ive ever done. And im glad Andrew and LBSS convinced me to do them cos i prob would stop running altogether because of how hard training/recovery is atm and yet something like this is easy to fit and do regardless of whatever is going on in life. It's not forever, eventually i'll have the luxury to do faster running, whenever that will be, i dont know.
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Re: chasing athleticism - summer 19
« Reply #4604 on: January 20, 2019, 05:44:21 pm »
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Quote from: maxent on January 17, 2019, 09:30:41 pm
Good stuff! Can you go more into the strategy of being super aggressive? I find when the shot goes up im just watching the ball thru space while it makes it way to the rim. It's like my legs find that to be the best time to sneak a bit of rest while the ball is up in the air  :uhhhfacepalm: that's part of being super unfit for basketball so i know i have terrible habits of conserving energy but i know it's a bad one. This is a new realisation too  :uhhhfacepalm:

Haha I know exactly what you mean. Watching the shot is ok but you need to find a body. Create some body contact and get in front or besides someone. With your reach and your vert you should be able to out rebound most guys. Also most guys are horrible at boxing out and will hate when the pressure is put on them. Even if you can’t complete the rebound just try and keep the ball alive on offense or clear it on defence.

Quote from: maxent on January 17, 2019, 09:30:41 pm
As someone who 'thinks' like a guard but happens to be too tall to play one, i think they're not willing to put that pass to the ground when what they think is a bad situation (in their mind a guy turned away from the basket with a guy right on top of him while both are stationary is a bad decision because they're a guard and to them a good situation is having the offensive player moving while there is some space between the defender and they can see daylight. Guards are just fucking stupid though, it's the ultimate projecting what is good for you but not necessarily good for someone else.). Last week at pickup I was literally posting up on a guy who was too slow and weak to guard me in the post and im all but begging for the ball but the guards are like nah it's better in my hands than his. lol.

When I played at my highest level I was a no. 3 swingman and played that slashing/cutting role. I would sometimes have to post but I still think that movement is best even for a 4 or 5. Low to high/high to low/wing to wing/etc. Seems to get their attention a little more. Still sucks though and if they don’t want to give it to you then you’re stuck. The other thing I do when I play with guys like that is to set on the ball screens so they have to move and make a play. Then roll or pop and give them options. This is also why I play so aggressively on the boards as that gives me control over some of my own shots.

Quote from: maxent on January 17, 2019, 09:30:41 pm
Yeah agree. I want to work on my spin off the defender with a nice amount of contact to make space because that's something i can pull off with my length and speed against someone relatively heavier, bigger and slower. The problem is as you describe even getting the ball in teh frist place

Yep. It’s an ongoing battle.
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