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« Reply #4815 on: September 19, 2012, 07:43:53 am »
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what i actually read was that someone who can run fast can also jump high and vice versa. Don't know where.

OK, so there is some correlation, but not directly proportional.

Cause i remember touching the bottom of the backboard but after speed training i can't seem to touch it anymore.


Has your speed training been successful at giving you measurable improvements to your speed?   How much time have you taken off your 60m, your 100m and your 200m?

I have seen improvements i got 3.99s in 36m. But i don't like to time myself during my flying sprints. So don't know if i have made any measurable improvements, i guess i have.

will probably measure it before i start hypertrophy. Never measured the 200m.

Seifullaah, I've never understood why you do these weird distances with flying starts. Why don't you just reliably time yourself over 30m/60m/100m from a crouch start? It's hard to measure progress when you aren't reliably keeping track of your abilities.

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« Reply #4816 on: September 19, 2012, 12:19:29 pm »
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Seifullaah, I've never understood why you do these weird distances with flying starts. Why don't you just reliably time yourself over 30m/60m/100m from a crouch start? It's hard to measure progress when you aren't reliably keeping track of your abilities.

Flying Sprints 30m is a training where you accelerate until you reach top speed then you try maintain it for 30m.
which is 72m in total.

I timed myself quite a while back for 60m which took me 8.48s

I have no good way of reliably timing myself as i train by myself and holding the stopwatch while running ruins the sprint mechanics.

how do you suggest i keep track of my abilities.

Thanks
Warm up drills
   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
-------------------------------------------------------------
Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
------------------------------------------------------------------------

�Strength comes from the legs, Power comes from the torso and Speed comes from the arm.� � Al Vermeil
Arm also aids the legs in driving it down with power - seifullaah73

My Progress Log
A Journey to Running fast and Jumping High
http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/my-journey-to-hypertrophy/

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Re: ADARQ's journal
« Reply #4817 on: September 19, 2012, 09:23:07 pm »
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Seifullaah, I've never understood why you do these weird distances with flying starts. Why don't you just reliably time yourself over 30m/60m/100m from a crouch start? It's hard to measure progress when you aren't reliably keeping track of your abilities.

Flying Sprints 30m is a training where you accelerate until you reach top speed then you try maintain it for 30m.
which is 72m in total.

I timed myself quite a while back for 60m which took me 8.48s

I have no good way of reliably timing myself as i train by myself and holding the stopwatch while running ruins the sprint mechanics.

how do you suggest i keep track of my abilities.

Thanks

I know what a flying sprint is. What I'm saying is that I don't think it's a very consistent way to measure progress. I don't want to hijack adarq's journal anymore but all I can say is you need a progress indicator that you can measure reliably. If you have a video camera it's easy, just film your runs and count frames later.

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« Reply #4818 on: September 20, 2012, 08:00:06 am »
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Yeah i agree its not a good way, as i am mainly trying to maintain its not going to give a good measurements. I don't like to measure max effort sprints during training but measure during one of the workouts. else i will have to measure outside workout days to measure.

Thanks for the help

@adarq: sorry adarq about using your journal for my queries.
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Warm up drills
   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
-------------------------------------------------------------
Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
------------------------------------------------------------------------

�Strength comes from the legs, Power comes from the torso and Speed comes from the arm.� � Al Vermeil
Arm also aids the legs in driving it down with power - seifullaah73

My Progress Log
A Journey to Running fast and Jumping High
http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/my-journey-to-hypertrophy/

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« Reply #4819 on: September 20, 2012, 03:42:03 pm »
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Flying Sprints 30m is a training where you accelerate until you reach top speed then you try maintain it for 30m.
which is 72m in total.

I timed myself quite a while back for 60m which took me 8.48s

I have no good way of reliably timing myself as i train by myself and holding the stopwatch while running ruins the sprint mechanics.

how do you suggest i keep track of my abilities.

Thanks

Again sorry for the hijack but it really is a shame to not make progress.  First off, holding a small stopwatch does not necessarily ruin sprint mechanics.  Second, your times don't make sense.  You claim 3.99 for 36 meters (about 40 yards).  That's world-class amazing speed (Actually better than world class).  You also report 8.48 seconds for 60m... That's incredibly slow.  Those times don't add up.

Your best bet is to enter a track meet.  If that's not possible you can time yourself for multiple repeats of 100m and 200m which has to be your bread and butter if you actually want to be a sprinter.  You must have some friend or family member or someone who can time you over 60 meters once a month or so.  Just have them hit start on your first movement and stop when your foot touches down past the line.  This method will result in slightly faster than realistic times but will be somewhat consistent.  Since you are looking to take about 1.5 seconds off your 60m time (and presumably a lot more off your 100 and 200 time) if you want to be competitive at a low level... This method will actually be fine.  If you ever want to progress get to the track and time yourself over 60m, 100m and 200m.  Having these baseline numbers will be invaluable to you and those that wish to give you advice on your training.  A 15sec 100m runner needs far different advice than 1 10sec 100m runner... right now you tend to follow the 10s advice... 

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« Reply #4820 on: September 20, 2012, 05:48:43 pm »
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when i want to time myself i hold the stopwatch in one hand, click the button, and immediately start after clicking. i imagine that's a little less generous than "first movement" and allows for some consistency.

sorry about continuing the hijack, but adarq's journal didn't get to 300 pages without a few of 'em.  :P
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« Reply #4821 on: September 20, 2012, 05:53:56 pm »
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sorry adarq for this:

what i mean by the holding stop watch ruins mechanics is that instead of focusing on running i also have to think about starting and stopping the stop watch and since im right handed, i have that on the floor and i have to use my left hand, which is hard.
but that is the only way i know. but i have stopped as the hypertrophy phase is coming.

the 8.48s was timed some time ago and the 3.99 was measured recently, but it was measured by a kid, so that may not be a reliable reading.

Luckily enough i will be joining a local track near the uni im going to.

you're right about following the 10s advice a bad habit of trying to learn everything up to professional level.

I will be getting my 100m timed every week, i will try so i can measure progress every week at the track. i will get back to you my current times and then will see how i progress.

thanks again for the help and sorry again adarq for the hijacking.
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Warm up drills
   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
-------------------------------------------------------------
Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
------------------------------------------------------------------------

�Strength comes from the legs, Power comes from the torso and Speed comes from the arm.� � Al Vermeil
Arm also aids the legs in driving it down with power - seifullaah73

My Progress Log
A Journey to Running fast and Jumping High
http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/my-journey-to-hypertrophy/

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« Reply #4822 on: September 20, 2012, 05:55:17 pm »
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when i want to time myself i hold the stopwatch in one hand, click the button, and immediately start after clicking. i imagine that's a little less generous than "first movement" and allows for some consistency.

sorry about continuing the hijack, but adarq's journal didn't get to 300 pages without a few of 'em.  :P

what start stance do you use for measuring, stand or from 3 point or from the blocks?
which hand do you use to hold the stop watch? that's what i use to do, i guess its the only good if i am testing myself.

sorry adarq
Warm up drills
   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
-------------------------------------------------------------
Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
------------------------------------------------------------------------

�Strength comes from the legs, Power comes from the torso and Speed comes from the arm.� � Al Vermeil
Arm also aids the legs in driving it down with power - seifullaah73

My Progress Log
A Journey to Running fast and Jumping High
http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/my-journey-to-hypertrophy/

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« Reply #4823 on: September 20, 2012, 06:30:11 pm »
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sorry adarq last time, unless they reply then i have to .... erm .. reply back.

So T0DDDAy
i contacted the local track and they have training tuesday and thursdays 6:30 pm to 7:00 pm

my routine is the following:

day 1 & 3: upper body
day 2 & 4: lower body
day 7: speed work

any way i can combine the training meets with my hypertrophy workout so i don't over train.

thanks
Warm up drills
   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
-------------------------------------------------------------
Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
------------------------------------------------------------------------

�Strength comes from the legs, Power comes from the torso and Speed comes from the arm.� � Al Vermeil
Arm also aids the legs in driving it down with power - seifullaah73

My Progress Log
A Journey to Running fast and Jumping High
http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/my-journey-to-hypertrophy/

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« Reply #4824 on: September 21, 2012, 12:39:59 pm »
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sorry adarq last time, unless they reply then i have to .... erm .. reply back.

So T0DDDAy
i contacted the local track and they have training tuesday and thursdays 6:30 pm to 7:00 pm

my routine is the following:

day 1 & 3: upper body
day 2 & 4: lower body
day 7: speed work

any way i can combine the training meets with my hypertrophy workout so i don't over train.

thanks

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« Reply #4825 on: September 21, 2012, 01:17:05 pm »
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sorry adarq last time, unless they reply then i have to .... erm .. reply back.

So T0DDDAy
i contacted the local track and they have training tuesday and thursdays 6:30 pm to 7:00 pm

my routine is the following:

day 1 & 3: upper body
day 2 & 4: lower body
day 7: speed work

any way i can combine the training meets with my hypertrophy workout so i don't over train.

thanks

hit lower after sprint training? that's what i would do..

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« Reply #4826 on: September 21, 2012, 01:18:58 pm »
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btw i have no problem with people using my journal for an occasional conversation... ;)





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« Reply #4828 on: September 21, 2012, 02:01:03 pm »
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sorry adarq last time, unless they reply then i have to .... erm .. reply back.

So T0DDDAy
i contacted the local track and they have training tuesday and thursdays 6:30 pm to 7:00 pm

my routine is the following:

day 1 & 4: upper body
day 2 & 5: lower body
day 7: speed work

any way i can combine the training meets with my hypertrophy workout so i don't over train.

thanks

hit lower after sprint training? that's what i would do..

pC

Sick idea mate, but if training is 6:30 to 7:00 or maybe upto 8:30pm i don't know if the gym will still be open.
if they did it in the morning then sick.

i made a mistake day 3 is rest day 2 & 5 is lower.

day 1 & 4 upper
day 2 & 5 lower

if i follow it, i will be doing training before lower on day 2 and also on the same day as upperbody which is day 4 thursday
if i use day 5 lower for sprint training making that tuesday day 7 will be thursday which will be my speed training day, should do i do before or after speed training that is scheduled for day 7.

Thanks
Warm up drills
   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
-------------------------------------------------------------
Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
------------------------------------------------------------------------

�Strength comes from the legs, Power comes from the torso and Speed comes from the arm.� � Al Vermeil
Arm also aids the legs in driving it down with power - seifullaah73

My Progress Log
A Journey to Running fast and Jumping High
http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/my-journey-to-hypertrophy/

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« Reply #4829 on: September 21, 2012, 02:03:17 pm »
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sorry adarq last time, unless they reply then i have to .... erm .. reply back.

So T0DDDAy
i contacted the local track and they have training tuesday and thursdays 6:30 pm to 7:00 pm

my routine is the following:

day 1 & 3: upper body
day 2 & 4: lower body
day 7: speed work

any way i can combine the training meets with my hypertrophy workout so i don't over train.

thanks

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Warm up drills
   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
-------------------------------------------------------------
Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
------------------------------------------------------------------------

�Strength comes from the legs, Power comes from the torso and Speed comes from the arm.� � Al Vermeil
Arm also aids the legs in driving it down with power - seifullaah73

My Progress Log
A Journey to Running fast and Jumping High
http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/my-journey-to-hypertrophy/