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Re: acole14's journal - DUNK OR DIE
« Reply #1170 on: June 07, 2016, 12:24:15 pm »
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Can I join too... please?

my list:

- biceps tendonitis in my right shoulder
-> actually diagnosed as a SLAP(labrum) tear by one orthopedist
- shoulder impingement
- "tennis elbow" for almost a year (both elbows)
- patellar tendonitis (?) in both knees (on and off)
- jumpers knee
- Cam impingement and a partial labrum tear in my left hip
- several severe ankle sprains, actually (partially)torn two ligaments once
- back pain which was eventually diagnosed as two bulging discs in my lumbar spine

... come to think about it, I never strained or pulled a muscle and never broke a bone... yaaayy I'm invincible!! :D

Sorry bro you listed jumpers knee and patellar tendonitis.  Those are the same injury.  Trying to inflate your injury history to get into the club is automatic rejection.  You can apply again next round. 

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Re: acole14's journal - DUNK OR DIE
« Reply #1171 on: June 07, 2016, 12:33:00 pm »
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- chronic knee stuff when i was fencing a lot

any idea if it was from practice drills (holds etc) or how many lunge-like movements you do when fencing someone? you'd think that wouldn't hold a candle to jump training, regarding knee stress, but daym



- "tennis elbow" for almost a year (both elbows)

uhg.. having it in one elbow sucks bad (I still have it).. seriously don't want it in both elbows at the same time.

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... come to think about it, I never strained or pulled a muscle and never broke a bone... yaaayy I'm invincible!! :D

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Re: acole14's journal - DUNK OR DIE
« Reply #1172 on: June 07, 2016, 01:11:48 pm »
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Damn LBSS you revealed my scam... it's just that I wanted to be in this club so badly.  :ninja:

edit: wtf... thought LBSS wrote my rejection but it's actually you T0ddday who deserves credit for my exposure

« Last Edit: June 07, 2016, 03:22:59 pm by Leonel »

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Re: acole14's journal - DUNK OR DIE
« Reply #1173 on: June 07, 2016, 01:54:19 pm »
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- chronic knee stuff when i was fencing a lot

any idea if it was from practice drills (holds etc) or how many lunge-like movements you do when fencing someone? you'd think that wouldn't hold a candle to jump training, regarding knee stress, but daym



i think it was a combination of the very knee-heavy stuff -- lunges obviously but there's a lot of up and down as part of drills, plus a lot of very abrupt stopping and starting -- and just being in puberty. peak fencing for me was ages 14-17.
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Re: acole14's journal - DUNK OR DIE
« Reply #1174 on: June 12, 2016, 06:20:44 am »
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Well these things usually come in threes...both knees (left chondromalacia/right tib-fib/peroneal nerve pain) felt mostly back to normal, had just been going to the gym everyday and doing the upper body/core exercises in Gym 1/2 alternating, with the ADEs as warmup. Then a couple of nights ago I woke up and felt like I'd got whiplash or something...scapulae trapezius (don't know why i said scaps) had seized up, tight AF and killing. Could barely turn my head. Next day was an absolute battle, wanted to stay home but had to go in to do animal surgeries that were finishing that day, worst day of the year by far. Really weird, pretty sure it wasn't anything I did in the gym the day before, was really just one set of pullups to failure and not much else. I think it was simply just sleeping wrong  :huh: .

Couple of days later and they've finally calmed down, can finally look up and down without pain...bizarre. Anyway I leave in a bit over two weeks so going to stick to the damn program for a bit I hope. I might strap a rabbit's foot to the weight vest though.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2016, 06:26:27 am by acole14 »

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Re: acole14's journal - DUNK OR DIE
« Reply #1175 on: June 12, 2016, 05:05:30 pm »
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Well these things usually come in threes...both knees (left chondromalacia/right tib-fib/peroneal nerve pain) felt mostly back to normal, had just been going to the gym everyday and doing the upper body/core exercises in Gym 1/2 alternating, with the ADEs as warmup. Then a couple of nights ago I woke up and felt like I'd got whiplash or something...both scapulae had seized up, tight AF and killing. Could barely turn my head. Next day was an absolute battle, wanted to stay home but had to go in to do animal surgeries that were finishing that day, worst day of the year by far. Really weird, pretty sure it wasn't anything I did in the gym the day before, was really just one set of pullups to failure and not much else. I think it was simply just sleeping wrong  :huh: .

Couple of days later and they've finally calmed down, can finally look up and down without pain...bizarre. Anyway I leave in a bit over two weeks so going to stick to the damn program for a bit I hope. I might strap a rabbit's foot to the weight vest though.

Yeah as I have now gathered a bit of data on vested training I can say...

1) Worst idea ever for sports.  Eg good luck making a layup when the vest comes off!

2) Very effective training tool.

3) More load is good.  Too much load is bad.  What is too much load?  Hard to say. 

However... The best thing about a weight vest is using it not during training and only for very light warmup a seems to be all benefit no risk.  If your coming back from injury this might be a good strategy.  I think there is certainly a benefit to using loaded jumps but just not without risk...  So if it's a risk minimization thing certainly take the vest off for training especially ME jumps.  I made great gains with vested ME jumps but I also felt like I was playing w fire to a degree...

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Re: acole14's journal - DUNK OR DIE
« Reply #1176 on: June 12, 2016, 06:01:57 pm »
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Well these things usually come in threes...both knees (left chondromalacia/right tib-fib/peroneal nerve pain) felt mostly back to normal, had just been going to the gym everyday and doing the upper body/core exercises in Gym 1/2 alternating, with the ADEs as warmup. Then a couple of nights ago I woke up and felt like I'd got whiplash or something...both scapulae had seized up, tight AF and killing. Could barely turn my head. Next day was an absolute battle, wanted to stay home but had to go in to do animal surgeries that were finishing that day, worst day of the year by far. Really weird, pretty sure it wasn't anything I did in the gym the day before, was really just one set of pullups to failure and not much else. I think it was simply just sleeping wrong  :huh: .

Couple of days later and they've finally calmed down, can finally look up and down without pain...bizarre. Anyway I leave in a bit over two weeks so going to stick to the damn program for a bit I hope.

damn sucks.. stuff like that happens to me too.. one of the worst ones I have is, somehow an erector gets "wrecked" if I twist, or hang from a pullup bar and breathe wrong, etc. When it happens, it hurts for a few days and I can feel it every time I breathe. These are some of the most annoying issues, I must say.



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I might strap a rabbit's foot to the weight vest though.

lmao.. somehow that will end up causing injury though; ie, the added 1 oz to one side of the vest, making your body compensate. don't do it.  :ninja:



Yeah as I have now gathered a bit of data on vested training I can say...

1) Worst idea ever for sports.  Eg good luck making a layup when the vest comes off!

...

absolutely amazing though how something like that can temporarily cause these "ripples" in our CNS, which almost seem to require a sleep-reboot in order to reset everything back to the appropriate state.

on a side note, since getting back to utilizing multiple sessions per day, there's one thing i've always loved about it; it's almost a vest-like experience. I always feel so much lighter/stronger in the evening session. If I don't over-tax myself in the morning/afternoon session, the evening sessions "feel" so much better. I don't really know yet whether the stats will back that up. But I should be able to get an idea of whether or not I run better during the second session, now that I have the GPS watch. As for jumping, I can pretty much say without a doubt, that I jump better at night - if I perform some kind of light yet explosive work in the morning/afternoon. For jumping, the time of day definitely helps alot too though, i'm usually stronger in the evening.

That's one thing we don't see alot on here; multiple sessions per day. Obviously work/life/school etc interferes with that.. but, even just ~30min of some light explosive work in the first session might be enough to "wake us up" even more, come evening. During my peak dunking, I was squatting several times per day - very high frequency, very short sessions.

The "multi-day effect" could potentially be a useful tool in itself.

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Re: acole14's journal - DUNK OR DIE
« Reply #1177 on: June 14, 2016, 02:18:10 am »
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Well these things usually come in threes...both knees (left chondromalacia/right tib-fib/peroneal nerve pain) felt mostly back to normal, had just been going to the gym everyday and doing the upper body/core exercises in Gym 1/2 alternating, with the ADEs as warmup. Then a couple of nights ago I woke up and felt like I'd got whiplash or something...both scapulae had seized up, tight AF and killing. Could barely turn my head. Next day was an absolute battle, wanted to stay home but had to go in to do animal surgeries that were finishing that day, worst day of the year by far. Really weird, pretty sure it wasn't anything I did in the gym the day before, was really just one set of pullups to failure and not much else. I think it was simply just sleeping wrong  :huh: .

Couple of days later and they've finally calmed down, can finally look up and down without pain...bizarre. Anyway I leave in a bit over two weeks so going to stick to the damn program for a bit I hope. I might strap a rabbit's foot to the weight vest though.

Yeah as I have now gathered a bit of data on vested training I can say...

1) Worst idea ever for sports.  Eg good luck making a layup when the vest comes off!

2) Very effective training tool.

3) More load is good.  Too much load is bad.  What is too much load?  Hard to say. 

However... The best thing about a weight vest is using it not during training and only for very light warmup a seems to be all benefit no risk.  If your coming back from injury this might be a good strategy.  I think there is certainly a benefit to using loaded jumps but just not without risk...  So if it's a risk minimization thing certainly take the vest off for training especially ME jumps.  I made great gains with vested ME jumps but I also felt like I was playing w fire to a degree...

Thanks for the notes. My previous experience using a weight vest was my old coach bringing it out around a month or so into the season, doing active warmup in it then 3x5 DL bounds, 3x5/leg SL bounds and alternating bounds from 50m x 3. Occasionally hurdle hops as well, nothing max effort but at least 90%. So similar lines of thought I guess. It was always a CNS intensive session though, really dreaded it...but that may be due to the scheduling, we did: Tues - blocks/re-accelerations; Wed- weight vest jumps+lifting; Thurs - speed endurance, with comps Sat and more gym Sunday. That was hard!


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I might strap a rabbit's foot to the weight vest though.

lmao.. somehow that will end up causing injury though; ie, the added 1 oz to one side of the vest, making your body compensate. don't do it.  :ninja:

Ha, I thought someone might say that!  ;D

That's one thing we don't see alot on here; multiple sessions per day. Obviously work/life/school etc interferes with that.. but, even just ~30min of some light explosive work in the first session might be enough to "wake us up" even more, come evening. During my peak dunking, I was squatting several times per day - very high frequency, very short sessions.

The "multi-day effect" could potentially be a useful tool in itself.

pc!

If I could plausibly fit in more two-a-days I'd do it. We did this training camp from 26th Dec to 31st Dec the last couple of years to simulate being a pro. Initially it seems impossible that you could do 2x/day for five days, but most people do get through it fine, and the performance benefits across the group were always decent/good at least. But yeah, life is just too busy atm, not abnormally busy at all (I prob end up working around 35-40h/week, nothing insane), but the timing of some of my lab stuff makes it a bitch sometimes.

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My traps had calmed down a little, still stiff but I figured it was at that state where exercise actually would help a bit. Went down and did Track 1 pretty much 100%, except no weight vest and no med ball throws (as I was at a different track). Got it done pretty well, the 300m hurt after so much time away from the track! But happy to get a session mostly done without issues. Left knee is feeling good, right knee a little bit stiff but overall OK.  :highfive:
« Last Edit: June 14, 2016, 02:20:22 am by acole14 »

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Re: acole14's journal - DUNK OR DIE
« Reply #1178 on: June 18, 2016, 09:10:15 am »
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This week:

Mon - track 1

Tues - ADE+weighted jumps

Wed - Gym 1

Thurs - ADE+weighted jumps

Fri - had planned to go to the court in the free slot but there was just no way.

Sat - Weighted jumps and Gym 2

Tomorrow will hopefully do track 2 unless it's too wet. Been raining a lot this week. Left knee is feeling good finally! Hoping it stays that way. My right tib-fib is still a little weak/sore...it's trending upwards though, I remember last time this flared up it gradually settled down as I got more training in. I'm wearing the weight vest again (hadn't been while recovering from left knee), I wear it around the house, to training and occasionally to the lab if it's a quiet day and my big jumper isn't in the wash! I still haven't being wearing it enough to get totally used to it though.

Hopefully next week before I head off on Sunday I can get a whole week done.

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Re: acole14's journal - DUNK OR DIE
« Reply #1179 on: June 18, 2016, 10:41:45 am »
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Sounds like the Melbourne weather is similar to the Adelaide weather. It's been a very cold and fairly wet autum/winter so far. The worst part about winter is that it gets dark soo early. I hate the cold weather. Our definition of cold is probably warm for Europe though :P
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« Reply #1180 on: June 18, 2016, 06:43:03 pm »
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Yeah Melbourne has been pretty rubbish the last few weeks but still getting to 14-16 during the day so not a lot to complain about. Shithouse for anything outdoor though as it has been raining heaps.
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Re: acole14's journal - DUNK OR DIE
« Reply #1181 on: June 19, 2016, 07:20:57 am »
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Sounds like the Melbourne weather is similar to the Adelaide weather. It's been a very cold and fairly wet autum/winter so far. The worst part about winter is that it gets dark soo early. I hate the cold weather. Our definition of cold is probably warm for Europe though :P

Yeah I'm guessing the Euros and northern US guys would happily trade their winters for ours every day of the week.

Yeah Melbourne has been pretty rubbish the last few weeks but still getting to 14-16 during the day so not a lot to complain about. Shithouse for anything outdoor though as it has been raining heaps.

For sure, temperature has been fine but I'd trade a few degrees for less rain! In Melbourne, it seems to rain mostly during the day; when I was training 5PM onwards on weeknights last two years we rarely got rained on. Out of the three major winter elements (rain wind cold), it's hardest to sprint/jump in the wet IMO. I'd happily run through headwinds and cold temperatures on a dry track!

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« Reply #1182 on: June 20, 2016, 08:02:09 am »
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This was a bit naughty but I got roped into playing ball tonight, the team only had four players so felt a bit bad to leave them hanging. It worked out well because it was the early game so I got the court to do the jumps session I missed last week prior to the game (not 100% of course):

ADEs/warmup (no weight vest)

5 SVJs

5 DSVJs

3 1-step SLRVJs/leg

3 BJ-BJ-VJ

5 SLRVJs

5 DLRVJs

The game was fun, we were outclassed and outmanned but played them close until the last five mins. I drove in and got stripped at least 4 times lol. Just so rusty. Hit a few good shots and a three but again not going 100%.

Had a bit of aggro of course because Australia. Near the end of the game some boofhead footy player hip-and-shouldered one of our guys running a fast break. Caught him high and gave him a nice swollen jaw. I was right there so I gave him a bit of a bump and a word, nothing in it but he flared up started having a go at me, claiming that he 'apologised' (even though he clearly went in recklessly) and that 'basketball is a contact sport' and all that. He kept remonstrating as he subbed off but I just left it. Could tell he just wanted to start trouble. Reminded me of why I hate playing this bush league level of basketball! I didn't mention it earlier but in one of the early games some other guy who was getting frustrated with no-calls swung a blind elbow at me when I was bodying him up in the post on defense. Again, no aggression on my part but nearly got my head taken off! Just for some shitty low-level social basketball game. It just wrecks what should be a fun activity. I really hate that alpha male bullshit! That's one good thing about T&F, none of that male aggression associated with team sport, quite refreshing.

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Re: acole14's journal - DUNK OR DIE
« Reply #1183 on: June 20, 2016, 10:09:53 am »
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That sounds so familiar. I'm sorry.
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« Reply #1184 on: June 20, 2016, 05:39:29 pm »
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That sounds so familiar. I'm sorry.

same..

it's one reason i stopped playing basketball all together (especially pick-up games/streetball).. loved the game, but, all it takes is one spazz intent on inflicting damage on someone, to wreck everything.