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what about for sprinting>
Depends on whether you mean speed or actual sprinting. In general increasing your squat will help you more in two-footed standing jumping than it will in running. Squatting will usually have some carryover to the acceleration phase of sprinting. For speed relevant to sport (soccer, football, etc) this is about all that matters. However, for actual sprinting the acceleration phase is a minor part of the race. Most high level sprint races separate when athletes get the chance to display max velocity. The problem with this is that if your increases in the squat are combined with increases in bodyweight your maximum velocity may suffer EVEN if your relative strength (as measured by squat to bw) increases. If you plan on competing as a sprinter... watch out for this.
For a track sprinter, what would you prescribe to improve maximum velocity and how do you explain lower speed despite improved relative strength?
Maximum velocity is by far the hardest quality to train. It's equal part tendon stiffness and leg strength. For well trained athletes max V can be improved with overspeed work (pulling, slight downhill runs, etc), lot's of max V work (flying 20s, etc), single leg bounding work, or changes to mechanics.
It's lower speed despite improved relative strength as measured by the squat. You see this because the squat becomes a poor measure of strength at maximum velocity. Even high school sprinters have their fastest 10-meter splits well under a second. At this speed an athlete must exhibit extremely brief powerful single leg ground contact and the squat does not accurately predict their ability to produce power in this movement. So basically, if you weigh 150 pounds and squat 300 pounds and run an 11 flat 100m (assume fastest 10m split of 0.9) and you increase your back squat to 400 pounds and your bodyweight to 200 pounds it's very likely that your 10m split will now be slower.
Note that this is less true for poorly trained athletes. If an athlete is running 13.0 seconds in the 100m then their max V may likely simply because they fatigue before they can accelerate to max V. If this is the case then overdistance work for endurance and increase in relative strength as measured by squat will increase their acceleration, maximum velocity and speed endurance.
Notice that this is less true for an untrained athlete.
Thanks for taking the time to answer this. Still, I don't understand your explanation. If an athlete increases his squat / bw ratio through an increase in bw and much larger increase in the squat, which mechanism makes that he is now slower?
U crazy, sir
thanks
8/30/2011
diet = tons of coffee, dunks.............., steak sandwich, running with dog, rested-max=275x8 + NGP=8, tons of ghr's + 3 sets of supine nearly stiff leg hamstring isos until failure
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way too heavy
I outweigh you by 35 pounds while also being 1 inch smaller.
nice but that's an old vid.. ?? ive seen that exact vid before hah.
pc
Adarq:
The third image in the first set of stills you posted Tdub's feet are about 80 degrees + of basket, spine is at a similar angle.
In the next image, he rotates clockwise. Can you not see that? Cuz I mean, he clearly twists to the left, when I'd expect an RL planter to twist + to the right.
$ICK3NIN.V3ND3TTA -
You are incorrect about one thing in you last post: the angle at which TDUB is planted in relation to the rim should not matter. In his other dunks he may even be 180degrees + of the rim. SUch as in the second set of stills Adarq posted, his toes are basically 180 + of the tim (not - because approached 180 from rotating +) and in that dunk he did not rotate much since he did a completely dif dunk.
Adarq's feet face the rim, but he comes from a slanted approach like most LR dunkers, so he is rotating a little bit, the rotation you'e talking abotu though is happening after the jump, and it's compltely opposite of how others think to jump: RL planters would rotate opposite of Tdub for instance.
Also I'd imagine this coiling exercise would feel a lot like a simple 2 punch in boxing, where your back fist rotates across your entire body, and beginners would definitely feel this in your core.
THe motion is quite similar, squat back, rotate left, feet are in an RL plant right foot back, punch with right.
why is everyone just talking out of their ass, i don't get it.
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Those fucked up threads are beginning to get really annoying!
Backpedal strokes , NBA players that don't train because they can already dunk , top secret T-DUB secret and so on...
Raptor, we all agree there are better and worse plants ( although you are being dogmatic about rotation etc , each body is different and has a different optimal plant ).
EDIT : picking random Vince Carter videos , comparing uneven things (old VC - young VC / open court one hander - pivot dropstep 2 hander) and making arguments and rules out of it = broscience.
But this is a wrong thread to talk about this , this is a thread that talks about "T-DUBS biggest secret. Elastic winding & coiling."
"T-DUBS biggest secret. Elastic winding & coiling."
"T-DUBS biggest secret. Elastic winding & coiling."
"T-DUBS biggest secret. Elastic winding & coiling."
"T-DUBS biggest secret. Elastic winding & coiling."
"T-DUBS biggest secret. Elastic winding & coiling."
"T-DUBS biggest secret. Elastic winding & coiling."
"T-DUBS biggest secret. Elastic winding & coiling."
"T-DUBS biggest secret. Elastic winding & coiling."
I don't usually listen to any hardcore music. I know Rise Against isn't really "hardcore" per se, the post was more about the message of the song than music.
I don't see how Rise Against is really a sell-out. The whole point of their music from the start has been to spread political messages and that's what they've kept doing. If they have to expand their audience into the mainstream to spread their thoughts to more people, more power to them. I'll consider them sell-outs when they make money without making music about anything meaningful like most of the bands teenagers listen to.
What do you have against Rise Against?
