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Decided to just start logging each session from now on to keep track of progress. My aims for Dec are:

- Full mobility of left knee, able to hyperextend/tense VMO without discomfort. Do rehab exercises everyday (foam rolling of entire leg and knee, gentle straightening and flexing of left knee to point of discomfort, stretching). Heat packs 3x/day and Epsom bath 1x/day.

- Core: Able to do 2x(2min front plank + 1min30s side planks) --> kellyb's core strength tests (this should be easy, will increase if I reach it too fast)

- Maintain good UB strength (Push: 90kg bench x 6, 50kg military press x 6 \\ Pull: 5x6 pull-ups, 30kg preacher curl x 6)

- Work LB muscles (doing what I can) - using cable machine/leg curl atm

Gym:

Foam roll warmup

TKEs: 3x20/leg@5kgs

Core: 3x(1 min front plank, 45 sec side planks) \\ Roman chair crunches: 3x25 (legs down)

LB: 4-point hip/glute raises using cable machine (2 sets per leg@20-30kgs) --> I really like doing this as I don't have to bend my leg

UB (pull): Lat pulldown: 4x8@55kgs \\ Concentration curls: 3x6-8/arm@15kgs

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That's pretty damn impressive. I always get wary though when the media starts hyping prodigies up when they haven't even hit puberty.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 09, 2012, 01:16:24 am »
With 41cm neck and 179cm height I got:

0%   72.49
1%   73.33
2%   74.17   Essential Fat
3%   75.06
4%   75.95
5%   76.86
6%   77.83   Athletes
7%   78.79
8%   79.78
9%   80.82
10%   81.86

80cm waist so ~8-9%, mostly in line with other online calcs I've used.

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Been so slack updating since I've just been doing boring upper body/core workouts for last week or so. My leg felt strong and pain-free enough to play a casual game of netball with some moderate jumping/landing/cutting, with no ill effects then next day. The only real issue I have now is that it's become stiff when I try and flex my quad/VMO hard to fully straighten the leg. I can run and jump but I couldn't jump maximally off my left leg yet.

I went back to the doctor for a check-up and after re-examining me and going through my symptoms he said that I possibly could have had a partial tear of my lateral meniscus rather than a stress fracture. He initally dismissed anything like that in my first visit because he said that the tests he did didn't indicate any large tear (as there was no pain or any significant shifting of the knee joint). The only way to definitively diagnose one or the other would be to have an MRI. However, since it seems to have healed pretty well on my month off, regardless of what it actually was, I don't think I'll bother paying a large amount of money (could be between $200-400, which I just don't have atm). Apparently lateral tears can heal pretty effectively because there's blood flow to that side of the meniscus. If it's on the medial then the prognosis isn't as good.

If it was still hurting and there was popping or clicking I'd definitely have it done. But at this stage he said it's probably not worth it, just take the rest of Dec off, lots of compression and heat treatment and some exercises to get rid of the stiffness from not extending it fully for a few weeks. Then see how it responds as I build back into more active exercise again.

This has to be the most annoying/weird injury I've had in a long time but TBH I don't think training would have been going too great anyway. Over the last month it's been very hectic trying to get work and sort out my options for next year, so a bit of time off was probably warranted anyway. I've just been using the time to get my UB/core stronger and to give me something easy to do. I've been reading a lot of training stuff and I've got some good ideas when I get back to vert training, but definitely worth being conservative with this so it heals 100%.

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Gerald Green head over rim analysis
« on: December 05, 2012, 12:10:57 am »
you mean...i should consciously practice...good form?



in all seriousness, that is good advice and i'll take it when i get the chance. thanks to both.

Lol, I guess I was asking for that. I know it's easier said than done of course.

On-topic: Awesome video, never really thought about the forefoot thing before.

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Gerald Green head over rim analysis
« on: December 04, 2012, 10:05:05 pm »
Yeah I agree with MattA below. Just because you can't do a ridiculously good plant now, doesn't mean you can't with a few months of practising a couple of times a week with an idea of what a 'good' plant should look/feel like. Given you're not in the best position to do that now, playing sport where jumping is required would help you I think, Ultimate sounds good. So long as you are aware of the shortcomings in your approach, it should slowly become more optimal with practice.

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I guess you have to ask yourself: how much of a factor is squatting strength in your jump? I guess DL is more reliant on quadriceps strength, but hams, glutes and calves are all important in producing some force as well as your stabilising muscles for the transfer of speed --> plant. Maybe you need to do more assistance exercises for those parts. Do you do (R/SL)DLs, weighted calf raises or BSS? Maybe you could throw them in.

Also, will squatting heavily and gaining weight really push you towards your goal faster IF your goal is to dunk on a 10' rim and 7'6'' reach? With all due respect to KF and steven-miller (not that he's around any more), I think your strength levels are good, and given that (as I said a few weeks ago), there is such a discrepancy between your boss squat numbers and your SVJ, there is still a lot of potential to be tapped into, and that extends to your running as well (as I said a few weeks ago, if you could improve your explosiveness to the point where your squat/SVJ makes sense, then your running jumps would have to benefit as well).

Don't blur the line between strength numbers and jump height too much, unless you're just intending to SVJ dunk. Then it's very important. I don't think it's too far-fetched to say that the running jump is more dependent on speed utilisation and stability in the plant phase than raw strength. In an ideal world (I know you prob can't do this atm) you could maybe utilise more track work, and more pure jumps sessions just focusing on training your body in the motion of the DLRVJ. I know you did do a lot of DLRVJ practice in the past, but it was always within a mixed workout. Maybe that prevents you from truly giving a max effort jump. I think that's key to making progress, actually getting to your max jump once every 2-3 weeks in a periodisation setup.

Given all that, if you really can't access the proper facilities to do track work and jumps at 10' ring, then squatting + eating hard could be the way to go. I'd consider  Raptor's setup though, or just a set-up where the focus is to increase your explosiveness so that your SVJ is around 35'' without too much of a BW change. Something like:

Day 1: Quad/calves - whatever you want to do to strengthen these - squats, calf raises etc. Maybe work up to heavy 1x6 (not too much volume but good for strength work).

One really good day of rest

Day 2: P-chain work - BSSs (for glutes), RDLs, maybe lunges.

Another really good day of rest

Day 3: Explosive work: Light pogos/tucks/depth jumps, then loaded rhythmic jump squats, KB swings (these are badass). Shouldn't fatigue you too much. Get a shitload of rest this night, and eat well.

Day 4: Good warmup, then 10-15 SVJs, record each one, stop when you're dropping off.

Rest, then start again. Keep doing this until your SVJ plateaus, then maybe look to start a block of RVJ/speed work (if possible). I have NO idea if this is an optimal set-up, I'm sure others would change the order or whatever. But something along those lines where your explosiveness/SVJ is the main objective in the short-term rather than packing on more mass/strength.

Sorry for the long post, just got rolling a bit  :P.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: November 28, 2012, 08:09:58 am »
Your back looked a little rounded to me in that video, but I don't know shit about deadlifting. You got the weight up anyway.

Looking at those tests, I don't think your strength levels are a problem at the moment Scoob. I think you have enough relative strength at least to get a good 38'' and dunk off an alley-oop IMO. If you really want to focus on your weaknesses, then I'd address this: your general co-ordination and movement efficiency in running jumps. Your DL jumping looks like mine used to look before I started practising it: a fairly slow, stutter-step run-up then basically a drop-step VJ. You get up fairly well because of your strength, but you are leaving inches on the ground because of the inefficient transfer of speed into the plant. My DLRVJ technique is still not great but I got a lot higher when I improved my run-up --> plant phase.

I seriously reckon you'd gain 2-3'' in about a month or two if you did a routine of one squat/calf session to keep your strength up, one movement efficiency session and one jumps session per week. You could just do garden-variety agility drills/low-intensity plyos on the movement day. Then max effort jumps session focusing on technique. Keep it really simple. You'll probably slowly burn fat as well doing this if you eat right.

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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: November 26, 2012, 07:20:31 am »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjECOakCpt8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjECOakCpt8</a>

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Damn it feels weird not posting as often. My leg is kind of the same since last time, it got stiff again a few days ago, no idea why but it's normal again now. Basically just trying to limit my walking each day, no running yet, having hot/cold baths to keep the blood flowing, and compression. I could probably start doing squats/RDLs etc but I thought I would wait until it feels completely normal again. I've just been doing upper body lifts and core every two days in the meantime. My sessions are usually like:

3x10-12 weighted situps@3kgs
Front and side planks, 3x1min/30s respectively
Weighted crunch machine or ab pulldowns
Random iso swiss ball stuff like glute bridges etc
Military press 3x8 (gone from 35kgs to 45kgs in about a week)
Chin-ups: 3-4x6

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: November 24, 2012, 07:30:49 am »
Why? What stops you from doing a higher volume if there are more people in the gym? If you can do all those singles and triples then obviously you could do a higher volume as well.

Only one Squat rack in my company gym... and people do incline bench press on it... we are suppose to share equipment also.

I think Raptor's point is that if you had time to work up to a few sets of singles (presumably with at least 2-3 mins between last few sets if they're 1RM sets), then you could knock out a quick 4x10 with 1-1.5 mins rest in-between. I was doing that a few weeks ago and it didn't take me any longer than when I was working up to a heavy 1x6.

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: finally a trustworthy list of verticals
« on: November 21, 2012, 03:31:42 am »
Hyperdunk stepping up his neg campaign with this one.

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Lifts when recovering from stress fracture
« on: November 20, 2012, 08:43:51 pm »
Hey Adarq/Lance,

I've been resting the last couple of weeks due to a minor stress fracture in the fibula/tibia head on my left (jumping) leg. It basically feels good to go now, so I want to start phasing in lifts and eventually plyometrics/sprints/jumps when it's had a few more weeks to rest.

My question is, in terms of lifting, are there any lifts I should avoid during this time (i.e. excessive weight-bearing like heavy squats)? I was doing squats 3x/week before I stopped a few weeks ago (work up to 1x3, work up to 1x6, and a 4x10). I'm thinking the fracture came about from playing basketball and doing max sprints not fully recovered from squatting. Other lifts I was doing include RDL, TKEs on leg extension, power cleans, calf raises (seated and standing with DBs/BB). I also foam roll and stretch the lower body 1-2x a day.

Thanks for any help, appreciate the time.

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Heal that leg man , be patient and do everything right , don't rush it back! ( Says someone who is unable to do that and pays the price!  :uhhhfacepalm: )
It might be a good idea to open a relevant thread in Lance&adarq Q&A section to have it for future reference/updates...

Thanks man, yeah I tend to be fairly conservative when it comes to injury. Back when I was about 14-15 I got a stress fracture in the ball of my foot and I just never let it heal properly. The thing was that it was so minor that I could train and compete on it but because I didn't let it rest it didn't heal for ages and it really stalled my progress. So I don't make the same mistake nowadays. Like with the patellar tendonitis I had a while back: it was only hurting during ME plants, could have kept training on it but the main thing is I have no rush to dunk. It'll happen eventually. Just gotta be patient. Good idea about a thread in A&L's Q&A, I'm unsure of what exercises I should do after the pain has fully gone.

Today the spot feels pretty much normal. It's only very slightly stiff when I really straighten my leg hard. I've been wearing knee sleeves for the last few days to keep it warm and I think that's helped a bit, plus getting in extra calcium and Vit D (not that they really help that much). I think I could probably start lifting again, just unsure which lifts to avoid while it's still in the final stages of healing.

To be honest I have kind of enjoyed having a few weeks off training. I think it's good to do it every 1-2 years.

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Ever thought of just working on SVJ for a month or so? SVJ calc says with your squat and weight you could be getting 34''  :o . If you're getting stuck in the 31-32'' range for your RVJs at the moment, increasing your SVJ to 34'' might help lift your RVJ floor. It's pretty rare to find someone who has a 34'' SVJ and does a good amount of reactive work to not at least get as high in a running jump.

Just a thought, it would be a good psychological boost at the very least to make some gains even if it's not in your desired measurable. I know I got one when I went from 34-35'' to 36-37'' RVJ; it reminds you that your body is capable of meaningful athletic improvements.

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