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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Measurements
« on: November 22, 2010, 05:06:37 pm »
http://www.yewhealth.com/estimated-1rm-for-the-big-3/

I should be benching 220 and oly squatting 300. Im a bit below that.  ;D

I assume you mean kilos. Cause there's no way in hell my estimated max bench is 381 and yours is 220.

Yeah of course kilos. 484 bench and 660 oly squat that is.

Phew, you had me worried there for a second. I guess we're fraternal twins.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: One more inch
« on: November 22, 2010, 04:48:22 pm »
Yeah I think Charlie Francis (RIP) would have an aneurysm if he saw 8x80 recommended as a way to build explosiveness and/or speed (EDIT: Except for someone already highly trained and already well into their training year). Seems pretty retarded to me.

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 In squatting for jumping improvement, IN MY OPINION, the amortization phase, the point in the movement where the bar goes from downward motion to upward, is the single most important part of the lift.  I have seen and strongly believe that the athletes who can turn the lift around the fastest will always have the best carryover to jumping.  It is more about how quickly you can get to top speed at that particular point in the lift, than the overall speed attained during the movement.  

Interesting point and I think adarq has said this before in reference to REA squatting and jump squatting. I'm pretty sure I suck at this part of the movement. Any cues/tips on improving it?

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Blake Griffin
« on: November 22, 2010, 01:41:05 pm »
He's a monster. Too bad he plays for the Clips...

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: November 22, 2010, 01:40:25 pm »
It'll hurt like a bitch if it's what stops your upward movement.

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yea I did the same doing tuck jumps the other day. Hurt like hell but just adjusted how high I brought my knees.

That's interesting. I'll try less flexion the next time I do them, see how it goes.

lol im 24 also, happy birthday

Thanks!

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  Thanks guys! Cant explain in words how happy I am to be a part of this great place!@!@

And we, in turn, are happy to have someone who wakes up in the morning and can answer our questions before 3 PM EST.  :D

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So was Louie receptive to your ideas?  I am sure there are few in the United States that are stronger than those WSB guys on the three major lifts, but as far as VJ goes, I mean they are too massive to even move all that weight to be among the best leapers.

  My "ideas" were just valid points that he didnt disagree with, the thing that alot of people misunderstand about Louie is he doesnt care about vertical jump nearly as much as alot of us do, if you gave him a choice of increasing someones svj by 10 inches or increasing their box squat 50lbs, hed take the box squat no question. 

  Alot of those guys have too much bodyfat to optimize jumping, but the main difference is they dont really train for jumping at all, all of the explosive and dynamic exercises are done to improve rfd in the LIFTS, not a vertical jump.  Powerlifting is NOT jump training, just like jump training is not powerlifting.

PAGING STEVEN-MILLER, PAGING STEVEN-MILLER

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Happy bday twin.  :highfive: Im 24 today as well then.  ;D Damn I feel old. Maybe thats why you wrecked your back. Because of your extreme age.  :ninja:

LBSS happy birthday !!!

Flander are you trying to depress me?  :P


Mid-20's baby! I'm getting on in years, for sure. Vag, you should pretty much hang 'em up at this point.  ;D

@adarq: I think you're right, combo of hip flexion/extreme posterior tilt did it. It was already feeling better throughout yesterday and I did some stretches and stuff. About 95% today, I'd say. Good enough to get back under the bar.  :strong:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: November 22, 2010, 08:47:24 am »
11/21/2010

BW = 150.8 <-- funny, carb depleted, feeling weak but looking lean, 2 days ago after carb'n up i was 155
soreness = hamstrings slightly, calfs slightly
aches/injuries = back still
fatigue = feel mad shitty

diet = protein shake, 4 pieces of pizza + salad + chocolates + 2 pieces of cake, training, protein shake + 4 bananas, protein shake + 4 bananas




workout:
- mr tuck: 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5
- dips: 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10

tuck jumps felt insanely explosive, took me a while to get into the workout, very long warmup, like 30 minutes of progressive warming up.. but once i got into the tucks at max effort, i had some insane pop.. tomorrow is actually looking promising, didn't think so before workout.

dips were very weak..

hopefully i can sleep around 4:30am and wakeup at 12:30am, that'd be great.




i challenged kingfish to a vert challenge, i told him i'd hit head on rim before he hits 40 SVJ.. letz see wut goes down.

he's at 38 SVJ max, i'm at ~39 RVJ max.. tomorrow im going to jump good though because he pissed me off badly, but we're cool, he's my boi.. i'll probably put his squat video on my ipod because i get so angry watching his squat videos, because it takes ~30-45s for the first rep to happen after he walks the bar out.. that should result in some PR's if i watch that shit before jumping

peace

lol'd hard at the bolded part.

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Warm up was standard. I really think it might be because it was the morning and my spine was still loose from sleep. But what about the tucking movement stressed it out, I don't know.

Anyway, thanks for the happy birthdays guys!

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neutral focus
SH:SP:SR:SH:SP:SR:SH:SP:SR:SH:SP:SR:
power focus
SH:SP:SP:SR:SR:SH:SP:SP:SR:SR:

speed/reactivity focus
SP:SR:SR:SR:STIM:TEST

Not counting the first SP workout as done cause this was a half workout at best. Messed up my back somehow on the first set of tuck jumps, soldiered through the REA and jump squats but when I tried to load more weight on the bar it was just not happening. Fuck. How did I tweak my back doing tuck jumps? I guess this is what I get for trying to work out in the morning, or something.

warm up
jump rope x a bit
core stretches

work
tuck jumps x20 -- balls
t-spine mobility exercises
REA squat 2x3x85
jump squat 3x3x85
squat warm ups
goodbye

cool down

stretch

On the bright side, I'm 24 today.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: beast
« on: November 20, 2010, 09:19:35 am »
Actually it looks like 95 to me. But who's counting? He didn't do full depth squats in the middle there so he's obviously wasting his time.  ;)

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AlexV nailed it: It depends, it depends, it depends, it depends.

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Yeah cause god knows you can't become stronger without ATG squatting. Elite athletes do strength exercises, they ARE STRONG, but many of them don't do full squats. In fact, I wonder how many Olympic athletes do real, honest-to-god full squats in their training, lifters aside. Or how many players within a given pro sport.

Do you think Rajon Rondo full squats when he trains? How about Vince Young? How about Chris Johnson? How about Cristiano Ronaldo? Dwight Howard? Jason Kidd? Andre Agassi, back in the day? How about Lindsay Vonn? I don't know, but I highly doubt it. Why should they invest time, energy and mental focus in steven-miller-approved full squatting? They spend all their time and energy doing important things, like getting better at their sport.

Elite athletes are often very strong/fast/amazing because of other reasons than training - at least to a substantial degree. That is also the reason why mentioned people might not even be familiar with a weight room. That however does not mean that the same source of action (becoming stronger being secondary to 6 days a week skill training for ones sport) is indicated for you and me to optimize results.

What? Sure, you need good genetics to be an elite athlete, but beyond that, how other than a decade plus of busting their asses in training do you think elite athletes get strong/fast/amazing? I squat because, like you say, I'm a hobbyist. I like to squat full and feel better about myself when I do than when I catch myself "cheating" on reps. And make no mistake, squatting is a fantastic exercise for developing leg strength. Duh. I would probably keep squatting full if I were to throw myself more completely into mastering a particular sport, for those reasons. But I don't for a second think that squatting is some kind of magical exercise that becomes infinitely more valuable when done through a larger range of movement.

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