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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: November 20, 2010, 11:56:31 am »
neutral focus
SH:SP:SR:SH:SP:SR:SH:SP:SR:SH:SP:SR:
power focus
SH:SP:SP:SR:SR:SH:SP:SP:SR:SR:
speed/reactivity focus
SP:SR:SR:SR:STIM:TEST

Not counting the first SP workout as done cause this was a half workout at best. Messed up my back somehow on the first set of tuck jumps, soldiered through the REA and jump squats but when I tried to load more weight on the bar it was just not happening. Fuck. How did I tweak my back doing tuck jumps? I guess this is what I get for trying to work out in the morning, or something.

warm up
jump rope x a bit
core stretches

work
tuck jumps x20 -- balls
t-spine mobility exercises
REA squat 2x3x85
jump squat 3x3x85
squat warm ups
goodbye

cool down
stretch

On the bright side, I'm 24 today.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: beast
« on: November 20, 2010, 09:19:35 am »
Actually it looks like 95 to me. But who's counting? He didn't do full depth squats in the middle there so he's obviously wasting his time.  ;)

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: low bar squat vs high bar squat
« on: November 20, 2010, 09:18:21 am »
AlexV nailed it: It depends, it depends, it depends, it depends.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: low bar squat vs high bar squat
« on: November 19, 2010, 06:51:47 pm »
Quote from: steven-miller on November 19, 2010, 06:20:41 pm


Quote from: LBSS on November 19, 2010, 03:45:58 pm
Yeah cause god knows you can't become stronger without ATG squatting. Elite athletes do strength exercises, they ARE STRONG, but many of them don't do full squats. In fact, I wonder how many Olympic athletes do real, honest-to-god full squats in their training, lifters aside. Or how many players within a given pro sport.

Do you think Rajon Rondo full squats when he trains? How about Vince Young? How about Chris Johnson? How about Cristiano Ronaldo? Dwight Howard? Jason Kidd? Andre Agassi, back in the day? How about Lindsay Vonn? I don't know, but I highly doubt it. Why should they invest time, energy and mental focus in steven-miller-approved full squatting? They spend all their time and energy doing important things, like getting better at their sport.

Elite athletes are often very strong/fast/amazing because of other reasons than training - at least to a substantial degree. That is also the reason why mentioned people might not even be familiar with a weight room. That however does not mean that the same source of action (becoming stronger being secondary to 6 days a week skill training for ones sport) is indicated for you and me to optimize results.

What? Sure, you need good genetics to be an elite athlete, but beyond that, how other than a decade plus of busting their asses in training do you think elite athletes get strong/fast/amazing? I squat because, like you say, I'm a hobbyist. I like to squat full and feel better about myself when I do than when I catch myself "cheating" on reps. And make no mistake, squatting is a fantastic exercise for developing leg strength. Duh. I would probably keep squatting full if I were to throw myself more completely into mastering a particular sport, for those reasons. But I don't for a second think that squatting is some kind of magical exercise that becomes infinitely more valuable when done through a larger range of movement.

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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: macdonald's burgers don't age (even after 127 days)
« on: November 19, 2010, 04:43:07 pm »
No. This is stupid. Steven-miller is right. The burgers didn't spoil because they dehydrated too quickly to give mold time to grow. This is because they're small, not because of anything McDonald's puts in them.

http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives/2010/11/the-burger-lab-revisiting-the-myth-of-the-12-year-old-burger-testing-results.html

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: low bar squat vs high bar squat
« on: November 19, 2010, 03:45:58 pm »
Quote from: steven-miller on November 19, 2010, 01:20:32 pm
Quote from: LBSS on November 19, 2010, 09:41:14 am
Yeah, I guess John Smith is a complete retard coaching-wise. I mean, he can't even teach a full squat! What a worthless coach.

Or maybe the guy who coached Maurice Greene, Ato Boldon, Carmelita Jeter and a bunch of sub-10 guys and a couple of 400m Olympic champs has realized throughout his decades of coaching that YOU DON'T HAVE TO SQUAT TO BE A GREAT ATHLETE. If it's going to distract from the main focus of training, why bother?

No, you don't need to squat, you can be a great athlete if you have good enough parents, too. So why don't we all choose ours instead of becoming stronger, seems like the best idea.

Yeah cause god knows you can't become stronger without ATG squatting. Elite athletes do strength exercises, they ARE STRONG, but many of them don't do full squats. In fact, I wonder how many Olympic athletes do real, honest-to-god full squats in their training, lifters aside. Or how many players within a given pro sport.

Do you think Rajon Rondo full squats when he trains? How about Vince Young? How about Chris Johnson? How about Cristiano Ronaldo? Dwight Howard? Jason Kidd? Andre Agassi, back in the day? How about Lindsay Vonn? I don't know, but I highly doubt it. Why should they invest time, energy and mental focus in steven-miller-approved full squatting? They spend all their time and energy doing important things, like getting better at their sport.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: low bar squat vs high bar squat
« on: November 19, 2010, 11:17:52 am »
I agree with you JCsBck, but Bret Contreras is a complete idiot. Don't trust anything he says.

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Olympic Weightlifting / Re: 69kg lifters
« on: November 19, 2010, 10:10:24 am »
The 170kg snatch was my favorite. Good lord those dudes are strong.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: low bar squat vs high bar squat
« on: November 19, 2010, 09:41:14 am »
Quote from: steven-miller on November 18, 2010, 04:49:44 pm
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Weightlifting full squats demand a degree of mobility far beyond that which is required during the execution of most sport acts and certainly far beyond the working range of many athletes who might otherwise enjoy a full sporting career never having been cut short because they do not possess the requisite flexibility to squat like a weightlifter with limit loads.

The majority of non-weightlifters, in fact, would be foolish to risk the possible structural trauma that is presented as part of a cumulative result of squatting maximal loads through the entire amplitude concurrently with varied gradations of sport practice.

Anyone who states the contrary cannot possibly understand the training problems inherent to working with athletes year round whose practice of SPP yields a high structural demand to the legs and knees specifically.

This quote tells me, that Mr. Smith is unable to teach an athlete a full squat. It does not even have to tell me, he basically even said so himself since he believes that most athletes that seek his advice are not flexible enough to do more than a half squat. Can someone please tell me why we should even read beyond that? Or am I misinterpreting things? If so I apologize, since I find that post to be adding very little of substance to the discussion.

Other than this, since I openly admit not to have the experience of coaching anyone let alone athletes whose practice of SPP yields high structural demand to legs and knees, I will ask YOU, bb2020, since you posted this quote, to elaborate on the topic of the risk of structural trauma that presents itself from full squatting + sports, but not with half squatting + sports.

And if the argument runs that the difference is in lifting submaximal loads instead of maximal loads: Who here is planning to do that exclusively? I am sincerely interested since I will follow that training log very mindfully.

Yeah, I guess John Smith is a complete retard coaching-wise. I mean, he can't even teach a full squat! What a worthless coach.

Or maybe the guy who coached Maurice Greene, Ato Boldon, Carmelita Jeter and a bunch of sub-10 guys and a couple of 400m Olympic champs has realized throughout his decades of coaching that YOU DON'T HAVE TO SQUAT TO BE A GREAT ATHLETE. If it's going to distract from the main focus of training, why bother?

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: November 19, 2010, 09:31:17 am »
I think somebody was taking pictures, but past a certain point I was too full and too drunk to notice. So much food. Our kitchen is a complete disaster right now. Great success. ;D

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: November 18, 2010, 05:48:05 pm »
neutral focus
SH:SP:SR:SH:SP:SR:SH:SP:SR:SH:SP:SR:
power focus
SH:SP:SP:SR:SR:SH:SP:SP:SR:SR:
speed/reactivity focus
SP:SR:SR:SR:STIM:TEST

Thought I was gonna get the court today but some random JV basketball team was practicing.  :pissed:

warm up
foam roll
stretches
jump rope x a bit

work
depth drops 2x5x18"
tucks 3x20
pogos 2x5

Having a big pre-Thanksgiving dinner with a bunch of my friends tonight, so had to hustle out after that to get ready and shit. Makin' some green beans with mint and jalapenos...mmmm.........

EDIT: Just realized this is the end of phase 2. Still don't really think I'm gonna see a big gain at the end of this, but not much longer before I find out.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: November 18, 2010, 02:58:05 pm »
Quote from: Raptor on November 18, 2010, 02:31:28 pm
Are all these protein shakes healthy? I mean, they're man made, a powder "thingy"... processed basically... you can't grow or shoot protein shakes

Yeah but you think protein powder comes from...where, exactly? Cows. Or soybeans or egg whites, if you're into that kind of thing. You can shoot cows, eggs come out of chickens, which you can shoot, and you can grow soybeans, so what's the problem? Protein powder is not man-made anymore than yogurt or butter or corn meal are man-made. And, that being said, who cares if it is? Paleo is complete BS.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« on: November 18, 2010, 02:32:11 pm »
Quote from: vag on November 18, 2010, 02:23:25 pm

18 November 2010

Very sore glutes , calves and hip flexors , WTF?

Decided to add the final missing link to my training, reduce bodyfat.

- 45 mins treadmill walk , HR between 115 and 120 , distance covered = 4,3km.
-  My usual lower body stretch routine.

Please see my signature for further information.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: EPIC football FAIL video
« on: November 18, 2010, 01:40:11 pm »
Como te queres matar, idiota.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: November 18, 2010, 11:41:10 am »
Also have noticed that my hamstrings are not as flexible as they used to be. The core stretches from STW feel great and I've been doing calves, pecs and delts consistently, but I have to remember to do hamstrings and upper back.

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