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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: February 22, 2013, 11:28:35 am »
Training
FS 3x102.5, 5x97.5, 5x94.5
BS 3x85, 2x6x90
OHP 5x30, 5x40, 5x50, 5x52
BP 6x50, 6x60, 2x6x65
WCU 5xBW, 5x85, 5x90

FS notes:
Still recovering lost ground, but slowly getting there. Should end the week with approximately 3x105 & 5x100.

BS notes:
Ok.

OHP notes:
Add 2kg next time.

BP notes:
Benching outside the rack from now. Felt ok. Add 2kg next time.

Chinups notes:
Go for 2x5x92.5kg next time.


Bad weather, no sprinting/jumping. Was tentative about doing upper body work for the first time since injury (3 weeks ago?). But it all went ok. Will be conservative progressing it because bench was the only exercise which seemed to bother my chest, everything else was ok.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: February 21, 2013, 05:51:45 am »
Usual doms in legs. But also doms in lats. delts, and biceps. I have to wonder if squatting FS & BS encompasses a full body workout in itself - including upper body. The pump in my arms suggests so..

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: February 20, 2013, 01:35:29 pm »
Ha. Thanks since then I reconsidered and relented and reduced the volume some. I don't think I could do proper Pins right now. I would have to be eating a sizeable surplus to pull that off. But it would probably work a treat in building mass. Will put it aside for the moment.

I've done smolov jnr with squats before while maintaining bw. I got a 130kg backsquat without a belt this time last year when I did it. But my vertical went no where and I got nothing out of it athletically. That kind of high freq, high volume program doesn't do much for me in the way of lasting athletic gains. It just made me specialised at squatting.. meh. Still it was fun. If that's the right word (it isn't).

Shit you are right though, as hellish as smolov was, this is even more volume than that. But then again smolov is sets across with a medium-heavy to heavy weight and that's a different beast from what i'm proposing. Any-way-- I think I would probably just end up doing it one day a week if i'm still playing basketball which for now is the plan.

Thanks again.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: February 20, 2013, 10:41:17 am »
I wouldn't do it exactly as written.

I'd like to start with heavy FS 2x5.
Followed by medium-heavy BS 2x5.
Finish with backoff sets of light BS 4x6 (start with 4x6x70kg and add 2.5kg each time)

Total volume: 44 reps.

Why volume? Because I can do it with perfect form. Can correct my imbalance where my right leg is weaker causing it to rotate in out of the bottom on heavier sets.

920
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: February 20, 2013, 09:28:27 am »
Training
FS 1x90, 1x95, 3x100, 5x95, 5x92.5, 5x90
BS 5x60, 5x80, 5x85, 5x87.5, 4x6x70

FS notes:
Finally got some 5s again, i'm back on track.

BS notes:
Did BS for the first time since injury. Felt good.

A lot of squat volume today.

 I think i'm ready for upper body work but to be safe i'll leave it til next workout. Dying to do some chinups but i'll be patient. Presses too. Funnily enough I don't miss bench press at all.

maybe it's the fact that you're 165 pounds instead of 220.

lol perhaps!

LBSS, what do you think of Pavel's Pin into Pillars program for backsquat on teh side. Thoughts? To remind you it's a 10x5reps program starting with 50% of 1RM and adding 2.5kg/5lb each time, done 3x weekly.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: February 18, 2013, 01:51:41 am »
This is kinda incredible so i'm going to log it. Woke up feeling really refreshed, no aches, no pains no DOMS. I usually have sore knees at the least. And my right hamstring always hurts pretty much all the time.

Wonder what I did differently yesterday which made recovery so good overnight. Mystery to me. Usually i'd be struggling to get out of bed on monday. Maybe i've just become adapted to basketball now.

For the record I had a small bite to eat before training. 2 icecream cones from mcdonalds on the way home from training. And I didn't drink any water during basketball even though it was a hot 38C or whatever it was yesterday. Came home had a lot of water. Felt really nauseous for some reason, needed more carbs I guessed. Had usual dinner of chicken, roti, a mango, and a protein shake. And big bowl of icecream before bed.

Even my injury feels ok but yet I was worried because driving home it hurt to hold the steering wheel with my right hand (while im eating my icecream lol).

Maybe the longer sprints I did on friday helped strengthen my legs up or something. I have no idea, but i'll take it..

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: February 17, 2013, 06:36:42 am »
Had basketball training. I'm getting fed up of ppl telling me to post up. Don't they know i'm 6'3" and I weigh 75kg/165lb? How strong do you expect a guy my size to be in the post. I feel like a fish out of water. I wish I had another 10-15kg of muscle on me, i'd be a beast. Almost miss being a big strong fat guy when I weighed 100kg/220lb. I was much harder to move around then!

But I played well, got some nice assists and im passing better and better with time. I have to work hard on my dribble though. That's my main weakness, I don't have a problem finding the open man or seeing the cut or whatever, it's just being in control of the ball well enough that I'm focused on the offense rather than protecting the ball. It will come with time..

And oh yea, you can say anything you please about someone. but i crossed the line where I cast aspersions on their quad dominance. Note to self, dont go there man, it's more contentious than debating guns and politics.

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I disagree with whoever said Kingfish's squat looks more like a LBBS.

I didn't say that though. According to my heuristic of squats, I said Kings HBBS is more PC dominant compared to LBSS' LBBS which is leg dominant. And I gave my reasoning why I think they look that way.

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LBSS's LBBS looks very much like a LBBS because the following are happening:
1. Knees are behind toes
2. Hips are behind center of mass
3. hips thrust forward at end

You lost me on point 1. Yeah you can tell a few things about knee position relative to toes, but not really. I've experimented with both HBBS, LBBS and FS and knee position at the end of the movement doesn't vary very much. Yes there is a difference but it depends on depth more than anything else. If you control for depth I think knee position is fairly similar. But I don't think is a very useful thing to debate - what you want is an athletic squat. And that's not necessarily ONLY a HBBS. Some LBBS can be said to be athletic (like our LBSS). You can argue that every HBBS is by defn an athletic squat - and I'd be okay with that. Hatfield goes into a fair amount of detail on the matter of the athletic squat.

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Kingfish's squat has his knees go over his toes as already mentioned, and there is no hip thrusting action; instead his knees travel backwards at the end as is typical of a quadnation squat and it looks like a normal HBBS to me.

This is highly individual, i disagree with this analysis on principle.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: February 15, 2013, 10:56:06 am »
You're right. And knowing when to go against Kyle is something I look forward to in life. It means i'm pushing beyond the envelope of what is the realm of the average guy and someone who trains more seriously towards being an athlete.

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Update on injury:

Good training session today after the week off for healing.

Thank you so much Lance for the guidance as usual, you're a legend. I'm so fortunate that you advised me to watch the upper body work. Left to my own devices i definitely would have done some upper work by now and disturbed healing. But front squatting is fine, so i'll be focusing even more on them than I usually do. Want to end feb sub 75kg while squatting 105 or more for 5 reps.

Todday: Longer sprints were awesome. I felt better and better each one I did. So much so, it feels like i'm perfectly healed now! But I will still avoid upper work til next week. And I didn't dare do any jumps or shooting. I figure I'll make sure i'm fully healed first. It shouldn't take too long. But yea i'm all in with T0dday's plan of doing longer sprints to bridge my body comp & athleticism gap. I'm a little skeptical to start with because everything I know about this bodycomp stuff comes from Kyle Macdowell and he's never really talked up track work for aesthetics. He actually forbids sprints because  he says it means you have shitty leg sessions in the gym. But i'll give it a try anyway.

Also quick shotout to coges, thanks for putting me onto Anthony's stuff again. I discovered it last year but it's timely rediscovering it again now when I'm getting myself ready for basketball.

Re basketball team:  I had some bad news earlier, our point guard flaked and he's dropped out. Which would leave my team completely dead in the water. But fuck him - i've got way better court vision and passing ability than him anyway - i'll work hard on my dribble and passing and play PG - it's always been my dream anyway. I just need to prove it to everyone else that I can get the job done and well.

TLDR: I need to improve my conditioning and athleticism via a heavy diet of front squats + 60-120m sprints for the next 42 days while getting myself quickly into basketball shape for the tournament i'm counting down to.  Priority is to heal from injury, regain my lifts to where they were and then become athletic before the deadline.

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Training
FS 1x90, 1x95, 1x100, 1x105, 5Fx97.5, 3x95, 5Fx92.5, 1x90
sprints 3x150m (best time 24:14),  5x60m (~8s)

FS notes:
Well was very conservative being in the midst of injury and all. But the signs are good, front squatting seems to be ok wrt the injury. But obviously i've gotten weaker in the 7 days since it happened. I couldn't for the life of me rep out 5 reps, failing the 5th on two occasions. My plan was to get a heavy topset of 5 and then do volume with a lower weight.

Still, it will come back to me. Especially now that i'm training FS exclusively.

Sprinting notes:
Used toddays advice. Started with some longer sprints - felt good, 24s ish was my best time. Then tried 60m sprints. These were interesting: I was going so fast around 30m that I couldn't control my body very well. I think it shows up a weakness in my lower back? And perhaps lack of leg stiffness? Well whatever the case, I guess i'll be improving those things by doing these sprints regularly. So that's exciting.

And today was the first day since I injured myself that i'm eating like an athlete. I wasn't going to diet while injured obviously since that would make healing difficult.

Now I'm going to do some calf raises and maybe, do some short low temp sprints, so long as they don't bother my injury i'll ramp up, otherwise i'll come home.

927
"I tried chocolate icecream last night and it was good but I also really like strawberry. Which one should I switch to?"


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: February 14, 2013, 03:59:14 am »
Don't let this happen!  The hardest thing is when your inactive you actually should eat CLEANER than when you are training heavily.  If you can master this you will be healthy for the rest of your life.   There will be times we can't train whether life or injury, and as you get older dealing with these times correctly is probably more important than your actual training.

Damn, yea better avoid that.

I feel good today. I might do some very light sets with front squats, i did 6x20 just now and it felt ok. No discomfort. I think front squats might be my best friend now. Because I remember last time I got this injury, I couldnt backsquat (it stretches out the pecs). Lets see, will add a bit of weight and see how it goes.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: February 13, 2013, 10:20:50 am »
I hear you lance, i'll stay away from the chinups & presses. Idgaf about that stuff, the thing which is killing me is knowing my legs will get weak and deconditioned while im injured. I dont know when it's safe to jump back in into training. It will be a week since I last squatted this coming friday (its wed night now). I'm going to try get in a light workout on friday, if it's pain free, i'll add a bit of weight. Then rest the weekend. Hopefully by monday i'll be good to train normally.

So my plan is to rest thurs, light front squats friday. Then rest the weekend. Have bball training this weekend but ill not be participating this week.

I guess after training hard for the last 12 months or so, this is the first week off i've had. and my knees are happy everything feels good and rested. It might even do me good. I hope I dont get too fat though from being inactive. Just this bitch off an injury is hard to train around, everything bothers it, anything physical and it hurts to breathe etc. I can train around it, it just means it wont then heal.

Anyway, lets see how it goes. Today it felt real good. Yesterday was bad, pain thruout the day. If only I had rested the weekend i bet i'd be all healed up by now. Resuming the diet tomorrow also.

Todday i'm sold, i'll do longer sprints. Thanks for the advice appreciate it.

930
I don't even consider your squat to be a traditional belted, bent over, PC dominant LBBS back squat. It has more in common with the archetypal HBBS than it does with the LBBS.  I'll tell you why, the way you come out of the hole - you're pressing hard against the ground with your legs. This means your squats are very leg driven out of the hole. I can see that just by looking at your video because of the way you unfold out of the hole. In comparison the anti-athletic LBBS type of squat looks more like a good morning out of the bottom which isn't what you're doing at all.

It's interesting that Kings squat there though HBBS is more PC dominant out of the hole to my eye, it's less leg dominant than your LBBS.

I remember reading a quote from jack reap  (an accomplished powerlifter and thinking ironhead) on some forum where he made the great distinction of bearing against the floor - he was talking about deadlifts I think but also made a reference to squats as well and it stuck with me. Actively pushing into the floor makes the squat (or deadlift) leg driven. The alternative is to catch the bounce out of the hole straight into a good morning pattern like the PL would do although the PL would only attain minimal depth but I digress.

I don't have a horse in the race, i think both squats are fine. I like front squats best though.

 

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