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hmm, well i can dunk one handed and two handed on 9'6, but my hands are more on the small side. i wish i was touching 15 inches above it though, which is 10'9 lol. i'm probably closer around 10'6 though but still getting the job done.

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think i'm 6' with a 7'8 reach. i don't think hand size matters too much even for one handers, you definitely don't need to be able to palm the ball. and even then, you always can just go for two hand dunks. try playing around with low rims and dunking on as high of a rim as you can, and you'll get a feel though. if you ever manage to get 15 inches over the rim though, i'm pretty sure you'll be able to do more than just throw it down lol. probably windmills, 360s, etc

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is anyone else training to want to be able to eventually dunk in games? obviously vert training in general goes hand in hand(maybe except training JUST for standing vert), but i'm specifically gonna work on being good at going off LR and off my left foot. seems like going off 1 foot is definitely necessary for easy dunks in full court. am still a far way from making a 1 hander off the dribble off 1 foot though.

yep i'll need a 44 in vert to dunk in a game....

oh, thats quite a bit lol. off 2 feet off the dribble, i'm not quite sure how much i'll need, but i think high 30's will be enough to just do put backs. off the dribble off 1 foot though, i think jumping high 30's will be enough to comfortably dunk 1 handed.

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is anyone else training to want to be able to eventually dunk in games? obviously vert training in general goes hand in hand(maybe except training JUST for standing vert), but i'm specifically gonna work on being good at going off LR and off my left foot. seems like going off 1 foot is definitely necessary for easy dunks in full court. am still a far way from making a 1 hander off the dribble off 1 foot though.

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i see. yea both are good for me i guess. high tops just solve heel slip so i feel safer with them i guess. but yea, always good to find low top without heel slip.

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oh yea, seems like most of you prefer low tops for jumping in, probably cause of the extra range of motion. i'm completely fine with high tops though, and think they might be preferred cause i get heel slip with some low top shoes.

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do you guys get a better fit on shoes with low tops or high tops?

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gonna continue strengthening posterior chain i guess. gonna still be mainly a LR planter, but still wanna be able to get off of 1 foot.

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overthinking my jump really kills inches more than anything

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LR jump still very hip dominant. i can jump off LR with high top shoes without a problem.

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still can touch 10'2 off 1 step, LR plant. gonna continue with both trap bar and straight bar deadlifts in the future. am not looking to bulk anymore at all though, eating is just too much of a chore. just maintaining my weight is already somewhat of a chore already, so may potentially lose weight.

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just trying to find out now if 1 foot jumps have less stress on the knee.

 I would say SL jump is dealing with much higher forces (faster approach, only 1 leg to absorb force) which have to be transferred in a shorter time period (shorter GCT), but the quad is in a strong position to produce a lot of force and protect the knee ligaments from absorbing that force.

If your quads are weak or if you're quad dominant and you rely on excessive knee bend (collapse at the knee) to produce power during the SL plant, that's going to put a lot of stress on the ACL.

In my case I was quad-dominant and tried to SL jump by bending at the knee. I've had a lot of SL jump sessions and only when it was high-volume, high frequency and high intensity I had some knee pain after sessions. Always went away in a short time period though.

Man I really wish this forum was still alive and we had people like raptor, adarq, t0ddday, merrick and lance so we could actually have different perspectives on theory rather than me trying to piece this stuff together.

I see. well i've never had any problems with ACL, just the quad tendon. hopefully can eventually transition to being a full 1 foot jumper again.

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i see. i just felt like making the left leg stronger was just gonna help with the 1 foot jump.

and i see. yea most, of the time i didn't, and still don't.


bottom line though, is that practicing the 1 foot jump is the best thing to do to increase it. just trying to find out now if 1 foot jumps have less stress on the knee.

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can still dunk 1 handed off the dribble off 1 foot. definitely think that planting LR gives carryover to 1 foot off left.

Gonna take the alternative stance here and say that LR DLRVJ carries over to R-SLRVJ more. Main reason being the long GCT of the left foot in the LR DL plant makes it have more of a strength role while the quick concentric rebound with the right leg (where it's probably generating most of the concentric force of the jump) is more power oriented and more closely resembles what happens in a SL jump.

Might be different for different people, but I don't think there's should be a whole lot of eccentric force absorption in a SL jump, that force should be transferred to the jump, not absorbed by the leg. If I'm wrong and that eccentric absorption is important in the SL jump, maybe doing DL jumps has a similar effect to drop jumps where the leg learns to absorb high forces fast, but it's more specific than drop jumps because the forces being absorbed are horizontal rather than vertical.

Feel like before when I was a RL only planter it didn't help much with my 1 foot off left though. in fact it actually made it more quad dominant

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can still dunk 1 handed off the dribble off 1 foot. definitely think that planting LR gives carryover to 1 foot off left.

makes sense, and also anecdotally my experience. LR plant is really a left-foot plant, i.e. your left left absorbs more of the force than your right. i'm naturally LR and a right-foot SL jumper, but my left-foot SL plant caught way up to my right-foot plant over the years.

oh nice. yea for me my right leg is still stronger, but my left leg is catching up. interestingly, even though my right leg has been stronger for all these years ive always been able to jump higher off my left. guessing its more of a coordination thing though

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