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MOVIES & ENTERTAINMENT & SHeeT! / Re: The Misc TV Series Thread
« on: June 16, 2017, 04:00:46 pm »Duh, i messed up the threads though, this one is for series! and i was wondering why adarq opened 2 different ones for movies!
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MOVIES & ENTERTAINMENT & SHeeT! / Re: Why don't we have a misc movie thread?
« on: June 16, 2017, 03:57:41 pm »
Re-watched "Three Kings" & "Spy Game" yesterday.. both solid movies from nearly 20 years ago.
Three Kings:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120188/
Pretty cool concept -> steal gold that Iraq stole from Kuwait while their is a cease fire, but everything goes very very wrong.. Takes place during the first US->Iraq War. Has lots of twists and turns & it gets pretty intense. Really good movie.
Spy Game:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0266987/
Could have been better but, still solid. Redford was in one of the most credible "hacking" movies of all time: "Sneakers".. Spy game is actually pretty similar, in that it seems more credible than not. I like how Redford's character in the film works people with only small bits of information
Interestingly, both movies are 7.1's on imdb.
Three Kings:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120188/
Pretty cool concept -> steal gold that Iraq stole from Kuwait while their is a cease fire, but everything goes very very wrong.. Takes place during the first US->Iraq War. Has lots of twists and turns & it gets pretty intense. Really good movie.
Spy Game:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0266987/
Could have been better but, still solid. Redford was in one of the most credible "hacking" movies of all time: "Sneakers".. Spy game is actually pretty similar, in that it seems more credible than not. I like how Redford's character in the film works people with only small bits of information
Interestingly, both movies are 7.1's on imdb.
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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: June 16, 2017, 09:44:34 am »
lmfao:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQjvXRcnPvw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQjvXRcnPvw</a>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQYeSXpC244" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQYeSXpC244</a>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJczoxTiQjY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJczoxTiQjY</a>
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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: June 16, 2017, 09:33:15 am »Is this really a discussion?
The only discussion should be about how this shouldn't be a discussion...
lmao. *watches Coges get triggered to play devil's advocate* 
It does look like we've had fun discussing some of it though.
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PBF is going to point his ass TO DEATH.
After watching Nate Diaz basically KO him, I think PBF could easily KO him..
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Conors stand up/striking is VERY basic compared to a world class boxer and all this bs hes spewing about hitting harder than anyone Floyds fought? Bahahaha. No. Im sure he thinks he hits hard af but what adarq said above is key...
Technique>*.
Conor won't go down easy but he's in for a world of surprises the first time Floyd catches him with a clean counter. When youve thrown MILLIONS of punches with great technique... you hit hard. He doesnt hit hard as a BOXER but compared to an MMA fighter? Smh.
yup.
Again, World Class Boxing ability in Professional MMA might not even translate to mediocre in Professional Boxing. That's what most people are missing. You could be the slickest, more deadly boxer-striker in MMA, KO'n everyone with ease, and probably have no chance vs mediocre professional boxers. Anderson Silva is a great example... A magician in MMA with a professional boxing record of 1-1 with 1 KO Loss. Sure, maybe he improved and could have beaten some pro boxers when he was in his prime in MMA, but I seriously doubt it. He exploited MMA's weak boxing, and was able to defend himself on the ground with great BJJ.. So he was lethal in MMA because of sub-par boxing ability. At the elite level, you put him in there with any light heavyweight pro boxer and he'd get demolished. You put any light heavyweight pro boxer in there with him in MMA, and pro boxer gets demolished.
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Ive got some friends who are pretty decent MMA guys and they can hit but its NOTHING compared to a couple boxing buddies. I got stung clean AF from a right cross sparring a boxing friend in college and it slowed me way more than any shot ive taken messing around with my mma friends. And he was 146lbs vs my 170. Long, lanky and quick as shit lol!
Correction: my best friends dad is like a 30yr wing chun expert... I sparred him once. I laughed at my buddy when he said id never see it coming (Ive dabbled with some boxing and mma stuff, every guy should lol, self defense and a great ego check).... I saw the first one, parried, saw a glimpse of the left and never saw the 2nd right hand. At all. Just went down on 1 knee trying to decide what happened and if i should get up.
lmao nice!
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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: June 16, 2017, 12:29:47 am »@adarq man solid points. I pretty much agree with you for the most part. The thing that's getting me is everyone giving Conor no chance. It makes me devil's advocate by proxy.
It's just so hard to play devil's advocate in this case tho.. hah.QuoteI'm just so interested to see how he comes out for the fight. He can't stand with the open MMA stance he has. But he's an awkward, unique mover so for me it's interesting. I will definitely be watching.Quote@fastdoeslie hahahahahahahaha Yeah you go and have a boxing match with McGregor. I would buy that PPV.
I'd actually pay for that as well.. lmao.
It's fun to watch people step into the ring for the first time, in a real sparring match.. No matter how tough they look/seem, it never goes well if they are going in there with someone who has some experience. hah.
First time I did kickboxing I was 18 and they put me in the ring with a 15 year old who'd been training since he was a child. I was bigger, stronger, probably faster too but got my bell rung twice in the first few minutes. That really wakes you up.
hah ya. nice lmao.
i imagine everyone remembers that first "bell rung" experience.. it's hard to forget. It's literally out of one of those war movies where an explosion goes off, and you hear that high pitch ringing, and time slows down, and you're just getting wrecked & can't respond properly.. lmao.
time slowing down + feeling like you're moving in slow motion + high pitch ringing + someone trying to kill you = bad combo.
Haha. Yes exactly. Thb almost the most alive I've ever felt. That surge of adrenaline that came with the first one followed by the swimming in molasses feeling that came with the second was truly bizarre.
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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: June 16, 2017, 12:14:23 am »@adarq man solid points. I pretty much agree with you for the most part. The thing that's getting me is everyone giving Conor no chance. It makes me devil's advocate by proxy.
It's just so hard to play devil's advocate in this case tho.. hah.QuoteI'm just so interested to see how he comes out for the fight. He can't stand with the open MMA stance he has. But he's an awkward, unique mover so for me it's interesting. I will definitely be watching.Quote@fastdoeslie hahahahahahahaha Yeah you go and have a boxing match with McGregor. I would buy that PPV.
I'd actually pay for that as well.. lmao.
It's fun to watch people step into the ring for the first time, in a real sparring match.. No matter how tough they look/seem, it never goes well if they are going in there with someone who has some experience. hah.
First time I did kickboxing I was 18 and they put me in the ring with a 15 year old who'd been training since he was a child. I was bigger, stronger, probably faster too but got my bell rung twice in the first few minutes. That really wakes you up.
hah ya. nice lmao.
i imagine everyone remembers that first "bell rung" experience.. it's hard to forget. It's literally out of one of those war movies where an explosion goes off, and you hear that high pitch ringing, and time slows down, and you're just getting wrecked & can't respond properly.. lmao.
time slowing down + feeling like you're moving in slow motion + high pitch ringing + someone trying to kill you = bad combo.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: June 15, 2017, 11:42:56 pm »
Did a few workouts recently but they sucked. Mostly just pullups/dips.
06/15/2017
Ran ~4 miles with the dogs.. I ran very slow (trotted), while they mostly walked fast.. was fun. Did a few fast runs in there.
I'd like to do more of that.
06/15/2017
Ran ~4 miles with the dogs.. I ran very slow (trotted), while they mostly walked fast.. was fun. Did a few fast runs in there.
I'd like to do more of that.
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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: June 15, 2017, 11:41:11 pm »^ isee. what about the lower body explosiveness an oly lifter/olysprinter can carry over to his punch? and his ability to move his legs and squat to dodge punch should be effortless and feel like he's floating cause his legs r so strong.... that's gotta be some kind of advantage compared to a boxer that has flamingo legs, or am i just clueless?
ur being clueless
it's mostly about technique, timing, and speed.
It's like trying to get an olympic lifter, bodybuilder, or powerlifter to try and hit a fast tennis serve. Some lanky stringbean dude with good technique is going to destroy them by hitting it 140 mph, whilst the strength people will struggle to hit it 70 mph. It's very similar with punching.
Most boxer's aren't built like bulls - ie Mike Tyson.. He was a tank. He's probably similar to this prototype you're thinking about, but beyond the strength & mass, he had incredible speed & amazing timing. Most boxer's aren't built like that. Just like most tennis players aren't built like Nadal - who is the Tyson of tennis.
It's funny though I mean, you're talking about oly lifter/oly sprinter's trying to transfer that ability to a punch - which is perfected via millions of punches with proper technique.. and those oly lifters/sprinters have "perfected" technique themselves. So in the same way some strong af dude can't just transition that to impressive oly lifts, it's even harder to take that ability and apply it to something "unweighted" like a tennis serve, punch, baseball pitch, basketball shot, etc.
technique > *
And regarding basketball, look at Steph Curry.. Most range we've seen in a shooter for quite some time in the NBA.. And he's considered weak.
technique > *
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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: June 15, 2017, 11:29:45 pm »
Just for any1 who hasn't seen Mayweather Jr. get hit:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ofeqQ_ljCk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ofeqQ_ljCk</a>
Biggest shots he's taken are from Maidana and Mosley.
Anyway, these are top pros (some elites) in those clips, hitting him with some clean shots - which doesn't happen often.. Those shots could have been his undoing, but he's got a pretty serious chin for someone who never gets hit. Most people who hate getting hit, they don't have granite chins.. Mayweather has a granite chin.
I guess the only risk for Mayweather is breaking his hands on Conor's head. Mayweather has had brittle hands his entire career.. In that clip, you see him go down once as he breaks his hand. It's also one reason he strings fights out more as he got older - didn't want to break his hands early on. He's fought several fights with his hands broken though, so it's not like it's going to make him quit.. He can still wreck people with broken hands.. lmao.
Biggest shots he's taken are from Maidana and Mosley.
Anyway, these are top pros (some elites) in those clips, hitting him with some clean shots - which doesn't happen often.. Those shots could have been his undoing, but he's got a pretty serious chin for someone who never gets hit. Most people who hate getting hit, they don't have granite chins.. Mayweather has a granite chin.
I guess the only risk for Mayweather is breaking his hands on Conor's head. Mayweather has had brittle hands his entire career.. In that clip, you see him go down once as he breaks his hand. It's also one reason he strings fights out more as he got older - didn't want to break his hands early on. He's fought several fights with his hands broken though, so it's not like it's going to make him quit.. He can still wreck people with broken hands.. lmao.
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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: June 15, 2017, 11:03:59 pm »@adarq man solid points. I pretty much agree with you for the most part. The thing that's getting me is everyone giving Conor no chance. It makes me devil's advocate by proxy.
I'm just so interested to see how he comes out for the fight. He can't stand with the open MMA stance he has. But he's an awkward, unique mover so for me it's interesting. I will definitely be watching.
@fastdoeslie hahahahahahahaha Yeah you go and have a boxing match with McGregor. I would buy that PPV.
lol i guess fighting analysis is not my expertise, i should stick with bball..... i know this mma guy at my gym and he never does heavy squats, he could barely do 135 full squat..... that is why i thought if some of the stronger oly lifters switched to boxing training, might do pretty well.....
Lifting has nothing to do with fighting though. An MMA fighter with weak lifts could pull you into a clinch and land a knee or elbow on your chin and you're gone.
Oly lifters trying to transition to boxing doesn't sound like a good idea either, unless you're talking at like, 5-6 years old, not adults.
Think of boxing like this: it's like being able to dribble a basketball like Kyrie. Now go try and teach an oly lifter how to dribble a basketball like Kyrie, without defense. Then, when you finally get them to that level, now put some collegiate or pro defense on them. I imagine you're probably thinking, "impossible".. Same with fight sports - for the most part. It's very rare that you get people who didn't start as kids, or young teens. Extremely rare to see people transition/take it on as adults/20's+.
Deontay Wilder is one example.. Took up boxing at ~18-20 or so? Became heavy weight champ.. Has some insane power. Decent boxer.. But he's going to have to fight some serious names soon, and he'll probably get owned.
ie, Anthony Joshua will probably destroy him.
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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: June 15, 2017, 10:57:25 pm »@adarq man solid points. I pretty much agree with you for the most part. The thing that's getting me is everyone giving Conor no chance. It makes me devil's advocate by proxy.
It's just so hard to play devil's advocate in this case tho.. hah.
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I'm just so interested to see how he comes out for the fight. He can't stand with the open MMA stance he has. But he's an awkward, unique mover so for me it's interesting. I will definitely be watching.
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@fastdoeslie hahahahahahahaha Yeah you go and have a boxing match with McGregor. I would buy that PPV.
I'd actually pay for that as well.. lmao.
It's fun to watch people step into the ring for the first time, in a real sparring match.. No matter how tough they look/seem, it never goes well if they are going in there with someone who has some experience. hah.
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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: June 15, 2017, 10:20:38 pm »Unless Floyd has been smoking pot, drinking lean, and shooting up heroin all this time up until the fight.... mcgregor has no chance.....
I bet half of the people on adarq.org could stand a good chance vs mcgregor in a boxing match if we trained for it...... cause we all have sick core/back and leg strength from all the squats anyway....
absolutely not, LMFAO.
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and im sure floyd has been training too.... if pac man couldn't do shit to floyd.... what is mcgregor going to do? kick him in the nuts?
fight would be awesome if it was in the octagon....
that would be a decent "equalizer".. boxing in an octagon is very difficult. I did it a few times, when I used to box. I was used to the ring, and sparred some mma guys in the octagon instead of the ring. Guys I had no problem with in a ring, had me wrecked up against the cage. You forget it's a cage and just get owned because there's nowhere to go. With ropes, you can evade into the ropes, spring back for hard counters, etc.. Not in an octagon.
That's a good idea.. too bad they won't do that.
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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: June 15, 2017, 10:15:48 pm »Mcgregor has never fought more than five rounds in ufc rules, how will he survive in a sport which is more physically demanding.
Have you watched any MMA? You do realise that these guys wrestle each other, get kicked, thrown around, pressed up against the cage, and then punched on top of that. To call that less physically demanding than boxing is a stretch at best.
it's not necessarily less physically demanding, it's just WAY different.. I mean it's like elite 400m guys vs 800m guys. And in terms of speed, it's like a world class tennis player vs a world class ping pong player. I'm not saying boxing or mma are one or the other, in those examples I gave.. I'm just saying that elites in each sport, are going to have a serious problem transitioning into each other's sport, even if they are more similar than not.
If PBF had to grapple on the ground, he'd gas easy. Conor isn't a pure boxer, I mean he gassed against Nate Diaz IIRC. He's going to be in there, for his first ever professional boxing match against one of the greatest boxer's of all time, who is presumably still in amazing shape. Floyd is dedicated beyond belief, probably still dedicated in retirement too.
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Also, never fought more than 5 rounds. 5x5 minute rounds that is.
Definitely, 5x5 is serious..
He's fought 0 rounds in a pro boxing match though, against a guy who has never gassed in his entire career, and is known for sparring non-stop without rest breaks while they throw fresh sparring partners (pro boxers) in there with him.
Everyone seems to forget that Conor got outboxed (in the 2nd round) by slow as hell - but good boxer, Nate Diaz..
I mean he got caught several times, rocked, then choked out. Nate Diaz is slow af... but he's also tough af with decent boxing.
FWIW, Anderson Silva actually has a professional boxing record, he's 1-1 with 1 KO loss.
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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: June 15, 2017, 05:03:23 pm »
eek
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etWbCUQ_68w" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etWbCUQ_68w</a>
(also, why the F did they put that sh*t music in the video)
love this interview with Heerden:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0GHTKvtGMQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0GHTKvtGMQ</a>
LMAO.
Heerden: "Conor is good. He'd beat some pros at 147"
Interview: "Like who? How about <lists like 12 names>"
Every response from Heerden was "no" with a laugh.. lmao.
(also, why the F did they put that sh*t music in the video)
love this interview with Heerden:
LMAO.
Heerden: "Conor is good. He'd beat some pros at 147"
Interview: "Like who? How about <lists like 12 names>"
Every response from Heerden was "no" with a laugh.. lmao.
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Basketball / Re: NBA 2017 - 2018 study group
« on: June 15, 2017, 02:41:58 pm »
Really? Can the East get any worse? I've tried my best to think positive for the east, but can't
head to LA wtf?