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Aaaaand boom goes the dynamite:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19553247
Nevertheless, here we demonstrate that the sexes do not greatly differ in the scaling between the 2nd and 4th digit. Sexual differences in 2D : 4D are mainly caused by the shift along the common allometric line with non-zero intercept, which means 2D : 4D necessarily decreases with increasing finger length, and the fact that men have longer fingers than women. We conclude that previously published results on the 2D : 4D ratio are biased by its covariation with finger length. We strongly recommend regression-based approaches for comparisons of hand shape among different groups.

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As any third-grader knows, IF UR A DUDE AND UR INDEX FINGER IS LONGER THEN UR GAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

My guess is that the digit ratio theory is gonna be disproven, or at least fall out of favor, pretty soon. It just smells too much like craniometry to me. I snooped around a little bit just now and found that people have done studies correlating finger length with everything from competitive performance of female fencers to rates of schizophrenia. But they're just correlations, which are subject to all kind of biases and errors even in the most honest and diligent scientists. The best guess anyone has made as to why the correlations might be there is prenatal androgen exposure, leading to greater testosterone levels and sensitivity in later life, as Kellyb pointed out.

But doubt is already being cast on use of digit ratio as a marker of prenatal androgen levels, which is the supposed basis for its validity as a determinant of masculinization and therefore all kinds of physiological effects. And if there's not even a correlation there, the rest of the supposed effect kind of falls apart:

                                                           


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20862705

Dev Psychobiol. 2011 Jan;53(1):69-78.
No association between two candidate markers of prenatal sex hormones: digit ratios (2D:4D and other) and finger-ridge counts.

Dressler SG, Voracek M.

Department of Basic Psychological Research, School of Psychology, University of Vienna, Liebiggasse 5, Vienna, Austria.
Abstract

The second-to-fourth digit ratio (2D:4D), putatively indexing prenatal androgen levels retrospectively, has become increasingly popular as an easily applied measure in research into the prenatal sex-hormonal bases of behavior, health, and disease. However, its validity has not yet been conclusively demonstrated and in fact is currently debated, because validation tests of 2D:4D with other, prenatally established, presumed markers for prenatal sex-hormone action have yielded mixed evidence or still are unavailable. Hence, the associations of 2D:4D with finger-ridge counts, one such further under-researched marker, were examined in this study. In a sample of 75 male and 75 female normal healthy adults, the six possible finger-length ratios of the human hand (from 2D:3D to 4D:5D, including the classic 2D:4D ratio) were ascertained with two commonly used measurement methods (imaged-based vs. fingers measured directly), along with two traditional dermatoglyphic traits (total and absolute finger-ridge counts). Sex differences in finger-length ratios (lower in men) generally were of moderate size (about .5 SD units), whereas those in finger-ridge counts (higher in men) were small to negligible (about .2 SD units). Within-sex analysis did not indicate theory compliant (i.e., negative) correlations between these two sets of traits that were consistent, noteworthy, or reliable. Finger-length ratios and finger-ridge counts are ontogenetically overlapping in their prenatal formation and anatomically adjacent. Hence, possible temporal and localized sex-hormonal effects in prenatal life are unlikely to account for their nonassociation. The current findings cast some doubt on the validity of these retrospective pointers to prenatal androgen levels.


                                                           


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19819951

Endocrinology. 2009 Nov;150(11):5119-24. Epub 2009 Oct 9.
Fingers as a marker of prenatal androgen exposure.

Berenbaum SA, Bryk KK, Nowak N, Quigley CA, Moffat S.

Department of Psychology, The Pennsylvania State University, 519 Moore, University Park, Pennsylvania 16802, USA. sab31@psu.edu

Comment in:

    * Endocrinology. 2009 Nov;150(11):4819-22.

Abstract

Interest in biological substrates of sex-related variations in psychological and physiological characteristics has led to a search for biomarkers of prenatal hormone exposure that can be measured postnatally. There has been particular interest in digit ratio, the relative lengths of the second and fourth fingers (2D:4D), but its validity as a measure of prenatal androgen has not been established. We report the strongest evaluation of the value of 2D:4D as a biomarker for early androgen exposure. Individuals with 46,XY karyotype but no effective prenatal androgen exposure due to complete androgen insensitivity syndrome had digit ratios that were feminized: they were higher than those of typical men and similar to those of typical women. Nevertheless, the effect was modest in size, and there was considerable within-group variability and between-group overlap, indicating that digit ratio is not a good marker of individual differences in prenatal androgen exposure.

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yeah i forgot bout using 1 but it was just like not even half an inch, it was just for 1 set to see how the ankle would do, no full squat workout or anything. but it mainly felt like i was using my right leg anyway haha it was weird

Still, you're just so much more unstable if your foot isn't totally grounded. Asymmetry weird too, any thoughts as to why that might be?

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By lift your heel up, do you mean literally do the squat on your toes/balls of your feet? Cause that would be crazy with any kind of weight on your back. Try using five-pound plates or a thin board to elevate your heels.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: beast
« on: January 10, 2011, 09:50:08 am »
^^^ 70kg db floor presses are crazy. Add that to the list of strength feats I will never accomplish.

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Basketball / Re: Optimal Strength
« on: January 10, 2011, 09:30:35 am »
As strong as possible without your strength training interrupting your basketball training.

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Person B, because of the increased leverage a higher center of gravity provides. That is - if they have the same structure, Person B will jump higher. But since you're saying they have the same VJ, that means they don't have the same structure so Person A will probably respond better to the fat loss.

But this is HIGHLY theoretical and you shouldn't ever worry about that since there are SOOO many other things to consider.

AH, Ok.  So person B is in better current shape (for a leaper) and person A would respond better to fat loss/training because he would get rid of the lower body fat, as person B has less lower body fat to lose and more upper body fat to lose.

I have another great hypothetical. Best friends, one named George and the other named Andre. Who's likely to dunk first if they start training at the same time?

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I feel totally awesome right now, btw. It was a good workout.

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BW = idk but I'm about to buy a scale
SORENESS = none
ACHES/INJURIES = right toe was bugging a little but nothing major
FATIGUE = none, which is odd because I didn't sleep well
DIET = ok, sipped protein shake starting halfway through workout, which I don't normally do. Liked that.

s1: volume-strength
- RATING (7/10)

- warmup

- ME jumps (~5-7 x 2)
basketball games going on, so subbed in
- depth jump 3x3
- depth drop 3x3

- MR double leg bounds: 5 x 5
shot hoops during rest periods, couldn't miss

- SQUAT: 3 x 8
185,185,185

- trap bar DL 3x5
275,275,275 == first time doing these in forever, super light

- OHP: 3x5
120,120,120 == hard

- DB row: 3x8
70,70,70

- UNILATERAL: 3 x 8e (BSS)
140,140,140 (2x70# db) == hard

- OPTIONAL: CORE (Y/N?)
full sit up 3x15+25# plate

- curlzzz
2x10x15

- tricep extension
2x10x30

- STRETCH

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Basketball / Re: Jordan Haters - They exist? WHAT THE F.
« on: January 08, 2011, 12:43:11 am »
ok build your team around a 40 yr old MJ who has at the most 3 more years left...  you're obviously a tool lbss... get a life... lol

MJ was top-heavy at that point, so obviously was in a better position to improve than bottom-heavy Rip Hamilton. Obviously you are a fucking retard.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: 5.18 40 running future NFL star
« on: January 07, 2011, 01:44:40 pm »

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For a person that has excess body fat, is it more advantageous to be top heavy or bottom heavy when starting out?

Example: Person A and person b are both fatass with 30% body fat.

A is top heavy, b is bottom heavy.  Who will make better progress based on given info.

What the fuck are you talking about? Progress on what? What info do you think you've provided there? Wait, wait, sorry, I've got it. Bottom heavy. No, wait, top heavy. Definitely top heavy, because once they start lifting weights, the top-heavy persons legs will have been stronger to begin with because they're farther from the ground, so their legs had to fight gravity more. Definitely that.

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Basketball / Re: Jordan Haters - They exist? WHAT THE F.
« on: January 07, 2011, 12:19:09 pm »
Rip wasn't on the Wizards in 02-03. In the one year he and Jordan played together, 01-02, Rip shot 41% from the field and 28% from three and had almost a 1:1 assist/TO ratio. So yeah, definitely the kind of player you want to be building a team around.

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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: Protein powder
« on: January 07, 2011, 09:42:24 am »
meat is the best protein powder. If you eat it before bed you'll have sweet dreams

i actually agree with this.

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What is it you do for a living?

I work in international development. The programs I manage deal primarily with disaster risk reduction and humanitarian assistance, so, for example, responding comprehensively to the flooding in Pakistan. Although if you ask adarq, I'm a spy for the CIA.

I want/need:
  • a scale
  • a tiger tail
  • a different place to do jumps

Tiger tail like from vinnie the pooh?


Tiger tail like this:



Also, lol @ "vinnie" the pooh. You Europeans...

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