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Brilliant explanation adarqui about the boxing gloves with the 4 oz. v 10 oz. scenario.
This is the reason why I love this forum so much!
The UFC is a marketing machine and they do an excellent job at hyping their fighters. Remember a couple of years ago when they were talking up Ronda Rousey and saying she'd beat up male fighters and kick Mayweather's ass haha. I've said this on facebook when people have been saying Conor has a chance but in reality it'll be 12 rounds of Mayweather running circles around Conor and making him look stupid. I'd even go as far as to say that there's more chance Conor will get DQ'd than actually winning this fight or knocking out Mayweather.
49-0 against boxers who have spent decades training and perfecting their art and being the best of the best. This is just his swan song for going to 50-0 and having a final payout. Understandably in the boxing fraternity people are understandably angry that Conor has even been given this opportunity as everyone else has had to earn their way to the top and earn their way to fight Mayweather. Conor has just come in and it's a circus. Talk is cheap.
When it's time for business, Floyd will go back to being surgical.
I'm hoping mugurza (don't know spelling) wins the wimbledon. Also I think federer will win the wimbledon as I am not sure how the others will do up against federer.
I imagine what most people mean is "Conor won't have the same level of power". Boxing gloves are much heavier. I think they are using 10 oz gloves in the bout? 4 oz vs 10 oz is a huge difference. I've sparred with 12, 14, and 16 oz gloves. I'd never spar with 4 oz gloves. Hard sparring with 4 oz gloves instantly becomes a "real fight", every shot can cause serious damage (especially to orbitals etc). 10 oz gloves aren't that far off from sparring glove weight, and 10 oz is used in amateurs.
Actually, maybe it's like 10 oz vs 4 oz running shoes?
Most everyone on this forum knows how good it feels to put on some very light weight shoes and do some sprints, runs, etc.. Then you put on heavier shoes and you instantly feel more sluggish. Yet, these elite Kenyan marathoners are running in 8-12 oz shoes.. How the hell do they feel so good in such heavy shoes? Experience, IMHO. These guys, who look so skinny/weak to most people, are running consistent sub-5 min/mi for 26.2 miles in 8-12 oz shoes, 8 being "minimalist" to them. So not only do they have the lung capacity, mitochondria in their capillaries; they also have this incredible mastery of a heavy implement on their foot. Studies show you can output more force in heavier shoes up to a certain point, but tell that to anyone coming from flats/waffles.
To me, that's similar to the idea of going from 4 oz to 8-10 oz gloves in a professional bout. When you "feel fast" with 4 oz, have power with 4 oz, have timing with 4 oz, then you put on a pair of 8's or 10's & get in there with someone who has mastered 8's/10's (and even 16'z in sparring), the power/speed/confidence you had with 4 oz gloves is going to most likely suffer. Add that to the accumulated fatigue of throwing/defending/missing with heavier gloves, and you have a new set of problems.
If this were a "fight" (not boxing) with 4 oz gloves, i'd give Conor the edge, especially considering Floyd would probably break his hands within the first round. Floyd would not do well in the bare knuckle game, he's not physically built for it & his style is perfected/optimized for boxing.
pC!
But what size gloves do you think MMA guys spar with usually? Not 4oz that's for sure. That's just a recipe for disaster. Most guys will use 14 or 16's as far as I'm aware.
On a side note, I do love Joe Rogan's take on things that MMA should be bare knuckle. Makes sense to me.<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7CYIhMW9KA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7CYIhMW9KA</a>
obviously I think Conor has a 0% chance and will get owned, but i don't care what happens in this fight. i just hope one of them gets ko'd within the first few rounds. If Floyd lost by KO, i'd be ecstatic - that's what you get for this circus & not fighting GGG. If Conor loses by KO, it'll be expected & i'll be happy.
a double knockout would be optimal.
The more this goes on the more chance I actually think Conor has. The man can talk like no other and I don't care who you are it gets under your skin eventually.
noOOOOOoOoOOOooOoooOOooOOooooOOOoo. :f
https://twitter.com/adarqui/status/837205158438240256Quote"Mouth don't throw punches. Punches throw punches."
-- Keith "One Time" Thurman
Thing is.. no matter how witty Conor is, or how good his talk game is, Floyd will always think he's winning that battle as well. Floyd is in his own world where he's the king, in his mind. There's literally nothing Conor can say, that'll get under his skin, even if he attacks his middle school reading level, Floyd responds back with: "read this, 76,000,000". Maybe attacking him on his domestic violence charges and what that says about him as a father, could get under Floyd's skin. I'll give him that angle.. But I doubt he'd use it. Other than that, Floyd deep down thinks he's winning everything - talk, money, records, prestige, numbers, women, the life, everything.
Conor got under Aldo's skin & caused Aldo to rush in and trade.. but Aldo isn't anywhere near Floyd's level when it comes to being able to play that game. Conor tried to get under Nate's skin.. How'd that work out? lmao.
Anyway, just remembering how much shit Conor talked to Nate Diaz, both fights.
was searching for Nate Diaz talking shit to Conor in the ring.. found this:
LMFAO AT THE END OF THIS VIDEO.. Conor dominates the whole video, until that clip at the end.. absolutely destroyed.<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRSOD7pEesE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRSOD7pEesE</a>
oh man.. i died. "playing touch butt with that dork in the park. the guy with the pony tail. My team will beat your whole teams ass. My JV team will beat your whole team's ass."
conor = wrecked.
He knows that shit is true as fuck.. Nate's camp is full of soldiers. Absolute psychos who live this shit.
earlier in the vid: Conor: the only difference I made was I dug the grave a little wider and longer for Nate's skinny fat body.
brutal.
"He makes good times with the right hand and animal balloons with the left hand"
Man but Nate's not normal. He just wants enough money to smoke weed and do his triathlons in peace. And you're right. His camp are straight up savages.
CM has the game to back up his mouth though. He loses at 170, comes back and wins at 170 even though 155 was on offer with Nate. I still see it being more even than people thing.
It's hilarious to listed to the "boxing" crowd say "oh when he puts on these gloves he won't have any power" or "boxers know how to take punishment". They're getting a little precious with it IMO.
obviously I think Conor has a 0% chance and will get owned, but i don't care what happens in this fight. i just hope one of them gets ko'd within the first few rounds. If Floyd lost by KO, i'd be ecstatic - that's what you get for this circus & not fighting GGG. If Conor loses by KO, it'll be expected & i'll be happy.
a double knockout would be optimal.
The more this goes on the more chance I actually think Conor has. The man can talk like no other and I don't care who you are it gets under your skin eventually.
"Mouth don't throw punches. Punches throw punches."
-- Keith "One Time" Thurman
LOL WTF IS WRONG WITH ME LOL.
Regards to Mayweather vs mcgregor that fight is being hyped to its maxium by both sides, mayweather wants to go out with a bang. They predict it to be bigger than mayweather vs pacquiao. How is such a one sided fight between a pro fighter and a pro boxer getting this much attention. You have the irish fans, the mcgregor fans (which is in the millions), supporting their fighter, you got mayweather fans and then you have the little of the others who are interested.
I watched the conferences and it is bringing out the vintage mayweather and it is really big somehow. I just don't get it. You got trash talking from both sides, antics (almost spelt it antiques lol) and singers. 10000+ people attended the conference and majority were conor supporters. I think it may actually get close but will not be bigger than mayweather pacquiao cos they both brough their fans and the die hard boxing fans, the die hard fans know how one sided this is.
and again I can't believe I posted that tennis stuff in the boxing section lol.
this was from yesterday, forgot to click Post:
07/11/2017
reading: walked + fast runs
felt pretty good.. feeling alot stronger lately. I think it's mostly due to the fact that i'm doing standing desk 100% & not eating too much.
feeling better physically + mentally.
sitting = the devil.
I gave in for too long and got lazy, sitting or lying down while coding & such. Getting back on my game, standing up + computing -> burn some calories, get the blood pumping more, strengthen up more, move around, and go nutz.
every time i train after having spent a lot of time sitting i end up injured, it's so predictable.
do you have a specific standing desk or are you just improvising?
yesterday was officially 9.49 miles walked but I'm sure i hit 9.5
