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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: beast
« on: July 09, 2011, 09:23:53 am »
Quote from: Raptor on July 09, 2011, 04:20:48 am
~300 lbs? Excuse me? So I could squat ~600 lbs?

 Its possible, especially in a canvas suit, however the better you get with a suit, the more you get out of it.  You still have to be able to support the weight though, but with you squatting 300 + now, you could definitely get 500 or so in a canvas within a small time frame of learning the groove.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: cowed77's time to get up!
« on: July 09, 2011, 02:41:00 am »
 nice work man, keep it up!@!

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Program Review / Re: Champion's Challenge
« on: July 09, 2011, 12:29:18 am »
Quote from: thechee514 on July 08, 2011, 11:48:58 pm
For example, I give you the link to a program you want or something and you give me the link to download the champions challenge.


 no piracy on here.

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Snatches
« on: July 08, 2011, 11:35:54 pm »
 
  Just do the power snatches then, either way, make sure you progress the weight on the exercise, thats going to matter more in the long run than which one you choose.

 
 

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Snatches
« on: July 08, 2011, 09:49:20 pm »
Quote from: D-Rose Jr on July 08, 2011, 09:06:10 pm
Lance what are your thoughts on snatches. You recommend Hang Cleans but the clean position feels awkward for me. After about 30 minutes of trying it with an empty bar, I went and tried some snatches, and I got good form after about 2 tries.

I was thinking about doing a couple sets before each of my workouts. WHat are good weights to go for like 1.0xBW, 1.5xBW, etc>


where did you get that I only recommend hang cleans and not snatches from?  Google "jump snatch" and see what comes up. 

snatches are great, as are cleans, cleans are going to be further to the strength- speed side of the continuum and snatches further down the speed- strength side, so it depends on what your goals are and your reason for using them as to which would be more applicable.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: beast
« on: July 08, 2011, 08:49:42 pm »
Quote from: Raptor on July 08, 2011, 07:31:02 pm
Also did a 480 kg squat

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjg4ymAsPOQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjg4ymAsPOQ</a>

One of the spotters was kind of standing with his feet right under the plates... not really smart if you ask me :P


 ya, thats suited, still very impressive.  Hatfields is suited too, though the suits they had back then added very little, look at how flimsy that suit he has on, that 1000 lbs is much more impressive than the 1000lb squats nowadays with the ~300 + lbs some of the suits are giving.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: beast
« on: July 08, 2011, 04:49:34 pm »
Quote from: steven-miller on July 08, 2011, 03:58:15 pm
Holy shit, that's a totally crazy squat. To do 410 kg this quickly, especially without a bounce, is absolutely sick. And it's a double, too...


haha yea, whats funny is he has the raw world record squat depending on what org. you subscribe to, and not many people know of him.  Here is a 991 raw in training, hes soooo explosive with those weights its insane...


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CYRMpGlB5E" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CYRMpGlB5E</a>

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: beast
« on: July 08, 2011, 08:56:59 am »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sh5EfcOWXc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sh5EfcOWXc</a>



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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Quick question about bounds
« on: July 08, 2011, 01:33:54 am »
Quote from: dunkingfreak on July 08, 2011, 01:28:30 am
Hey Lance I've been doing your bound program you have posted up here and its working great but i'm a little confused on how to do the single leg bounds

For the single leg bounds i it LRLRLRLRLR or is it LLLLLLLLLLLLL then RRRRRRRRRRR? Do we alternate legs after every single bound or do full sets of bounds on one leg and then switch to the other?

Thanks


 Hey bud, its LLLLLLLLL, rrrrrrrrrr, etc. and one set is a full set of bounds on one leg, then the other.  So yea, do all the way down on the left leg, then come back on the right leg, thats one. 

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Conventional Dead Lift vs Trap Bar Dead Lift
« on: July 08, 2011, 01:30:51 am »
Quote from: steven-miller on July 07, 2011, 04:52:36 pm
Quote from: Ineedtodunk on July 07, 2011, 12:27:02 pm
What are the differences and which is better when vertical jump is the goal as a supplement to squatting?

I think conventional is better when squats are performed as well. The trap bar deadlift is a lot more similar to the squat than the conventional one, so it is only the logical conclusion that normal deadlifts are better since they target the body in a more distinct fashion compared to squats.

The main difference I see between the two is that in the trapbar deadlift the weight can be kept closer to the center of mass of the body resulting in a leverage advantage and a more upright torso in the starting position. This would lead to a different focus of muscle groups involved.


^^ exactly.  If you are already squatting, a traditional "style" deadlift will target the hamstrings and glutes more than the squat does so it is a good supplement.  However you can perform a trap bar deadlift similar to a rdl or traditional dead, but the actual deadlift is not a squat, its a pull.  If you were using either or and only doing one, without squatting, the trap bar would be a good option with a fairly erect torso position.  Coming all the way to the floor and stopping will take away a lot of the reversal benefits that you get from squatting, but you can remedy this by stopping just short of the floor and reversing.

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LanceSTS's Performance Blog / Re: Random Strength and Conditioning Posts/Articles/Info That I Like
« on: July 05, 2011, 10:40:28 pm »
Quote from: steven-miller on July 05, 2011, 04:45:00 pm
I was able to stand being there for 15 minutes, I have seen, to an extend, what you are talking about. It certainly has something to do with the size of a forum as well. It takes a lot longer to educate a big number of people and when new guys show up every day you will see the same shit being repeated all over again. I don't feel a need to be there, but I can understand your anger about that. The SS forum is big, too, so you see it there as well.

Haha, 15 minutes of torture, now you see the reason for my ranting.


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I think the olympic lifts are perceived as something of great technical difficulty, so many shy away from them because of that as well. They might not be easy to execute perfectly, but its really not very difficult to learn them to the degree that you can use them as an effective training tool for quite a while. But it seems that most are not really willing to put in enough time to read stuff, educate themselves and most importantly try things out in the weight room and improve on execution. If that was the case AlexV would not have the problem of having to teach the lifts to the players from the get go, but make slight modifications only.

Now we get to the root of the problem.  Ive talked about this exact scenario before, but people expect their cleans and snatches to look like pyros dimas, and they obviously dont, so they say, "I just cant get the clean (or snatch), my (insert wrists, arms, feet, ankles, vagina) hurts/is too long/ is not flexible enough to do them".  The funny thing is their squat often looks like something similar to swamp thing, but they have no problem doing them since "its good enough".   

You dont have to be PERFECT at the lifts to get benefits from them, and its not hard at all to learn to jump a weight up to the shoulders or overhead.  I would say that if you cant learn to do this, you are definitely not going to be a good athlete either.  But I think whats discouraging to them is the same people banding together against the lifts will be the first to critique the form, and let them know how much time they are wasting trying to learn them, and how impossible it is/how many years it takes etc. to master them, when they are again talking about something they have no clue about.

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LanceSTS's Performance Blog / Re: Random Strength and Conditioning Posts/Articles/Info That I Like
« on: July 05, 2011, 03:31:06 pm »
 Go to bodybuilding.com, in the sports training section, and you will see what I am talking about.  Thats a massive forum, but that general attitude is spreading like a slimy plague, and my issue with it is that it can cause some of the young impressionable athletes who couldve benefitted massively from the lifts, not do them.  They dont see the 135lb squatting retard behind the posts parroting what hes read from his "guru", they see "rep points" and take the advice.


tnation is pretty bad about it, though christian thibadeau and pendlay have helped educate some of the parrots.

startingstrength.com is pretty clueless about what exactly the lifts do for the most part, but at least they are doing them, though most of the time I see that said "put the powercleans at the end, theyre fun but they only demonstrate your strength".

there are tons of other places I see that more and more.



  I wasnt posting that as a shot at rippetoe or anything to do with olympic weightlifters, I just hate seeing that repeated over and over by people who couldnt snatch the bar, and have no right to even talk about the lifts in the first place.  Its fine if they are dumb and believe someones word without trying things for themselves, but when it affects others that couldve benefited, it becomes a problem.

  People love to bring up the argument of the olympic lifters having higher verts, faster starts, etc., and then bet your ass the next reply will be some deusch parroting "those guys have elite genetics, bla bla bla".  In that same argument, that same poster will use the example of how high jumpers and sprinters train ironically, which is comical, because obviously the high jumpers and sprinters have absolutely no genetic gifts whatsoever, and gained all their athleticism through their training methods.

 If someone has tried doing something that has proven to be very effective, forms an opinion on it, and finds a better way, Im all for it. AlexV had a good reason imo for using things like kettlebell swings, etc., because of the large group setting he had and the time required to teach the lifts, but he also never made the silly claim that they "only demonstrate strength" .  But thats not whats happening now, its a bunch of people who shouldnt open their mouth talking down things they dont know anything about.


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LanceSTS's Performance Blog / Re: Random Strength and Conditioning Posts/Articles/Info That I Like
« on: July 05, 2011, 01:38:35 pm »
Quote from: steven-miller on July 05, 2011, 11:29:32 am
Quote from: LanceSTS on July 05, 2011, 10:16:47 am
Greg Everett:

Its very very annoying to hear this horseshit that olympic lifts and their variations only "express" strength, and I have yet to see it said by anyone who actually has the experience under the bar with these lifts themselves say such a dumb ass thing.  Deadlifts VERY OFTEN will go up SUBSTANTIALLY, WITHOUT DEADLIFTING, from doing power cleans from the floor.  Power cleans WONT go up linearly, from getting stronger in the deadlift.  This is one reason using power cleans from the floor is a great option for team sport athletes, it saves the cns from the burn out of heavy deadlifting, gives a MUCH better carryover to jumps/sprints/power, and yet it still will improve the actual deadlift itself in most cases assuming the athlete can adequately perform the lift.

I think no one would seriously doubt the benefits of the olympic lifts for every strength and power athlete. However, if the olympic lifts are actually sufficient and also efficient in making athletes stronger, why does every weightlifter on the planet feel the need to squat and/or front squat so often then? It certainly is not only because of variety.

 I never said that olympic lifts were the only lifts needed.  I said Im tired of hearing that they "demonstrate" strength, and dont make people stronger.  Olympic lifters do the SQUAT CLEAN and SQUAT SNATCH, so the squat is a very integral factor in whether or not they make the lift.  Im not talking about olympic lifters anyway, Im sick of seeing posts about how "olympic lifts only "demonstrate" strength".


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The argument whether deadlift increases drive powerclean increases or vice versa is completely artificial IMO. It's neither nor. Serious training will lead to adaptations from the organism and those adaptations apply to similar tasks as well. So there are obviously variables in play that mediate the connection and this will probably work in both directions to an extend.

Im telling you that increases in powercleans, FROM THE FLOOR, increase the deadlift IN MOST athletes in my experience, im not asking anybody, because ive seen it happen for 15 years.  Without deadlifting, assuming they can powerclean correctly, their deadlifts go up, WITHOUT DEADLIFTING.  Would the deadlift go up MORE with more deadlifting? possibly and  probable, but deadlifting without cleaning does not work the same way in my experience for the clean.  


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Now, for an olympic lifter there is no need to increase his deadlift unless this increase has carryover to competition lifts. And this is the actual debate and point of disagreement from my perception of it.

Im not talking about Mark Rippetoes insane argument with every olympic weightlifting coach on the planet, Im talking about the kids repeating this shit all over every s and c forum on the internet, with a tone of "why should we even do power cleans or power snatches when all they do is "display" strength.  You want to know what helps olympic weightlifters? ask glenn pendlay, listen to every word he says and disregard anything anyone else says about it.



cleans and snatches and all their variations make people strong, on the field, on the court, and stronger in general just like other lifts but at a more sport specific speed.  Its progressive overload against increasing resistance.  You dont have to do them, just like you dont have to do any lift, but saying they dont make people strong is insane.


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LanceSTS's Performance Blog / Re: Random Strength and Conditioning Posts/Articles/Info That I Like
« on: July 05, 2011, 10:16:47 am »
  
Greg Everett:



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Some argue that beyond the beginner level, the snatch and clean & jerk can't drive increases in strength. This is utter nonsense that can only be genuinely believed by someone who has never actually snatched and clean & jerked heavy weights [/b]


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Its very very annoying to hear this horseshit that olympic lifts and their variations only "express" strength, and I have yet to see it said by anyone who actually has the experience under the bar with these lifts themselves say such a dumb ass thing.  Deadlifts VERY OFTEN will go up SUBSTANTIALLY, WITHOUT DEADLIFTING, from doing power cleans from the floor.  Power cleans WONT go up linearly, from getting stronger in the deadlift.  This is one reason using power cleans from the floor is a great option for team sport athletes, it saves the cns from the burn out of heavy deadlifting, gives a MUCH better carryover to jumps/sprints/power, and yet it still will improve the actual deadlift itself in most cases assuming the athlete can adequately perform the lift.

People hear one thing on a internet forum or in an article, then repeat it like its the law sent from God, when in reality theyre little messenger boys, repeating what they read without any experience in the matter themselves.  


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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
« on: July 05, 2011, 07:56:42 am »
Quote from: zbiz on July 04, 2011, 10:16:40 pm
Can you give me some more info on bracing my core?

In fact just the other day at the gym someone told me that in my jump i need to hold my core steady and jump upwards with my upper body and shoulders straight, aggressively toward the rim...


 When you inhale, before you valsalva,  make sure your belly rises, not your chest. 

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