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Basketball / Re: NBA 2017 - 2018 Season
« on: June 01, 2018, 12:08:37 am »
Quote from: adarqui on May 31, 2018, 11:53:16 pm
Quote from: Coges on May 31, 2018, 11:51:05 pm
The refs fucked this one up. Such a disappointing way to end the game. CLE should be up 1-0

seriously man. i haven't felt this annoyed after a sports event in a long time.

i mean who knows, maybe they lose to a Curry 3 at the end etc.. but, refs gave GSW some enormous gifts. Changed the game significantly IMHO. I'm not just saying that because I wanted CLE to win .. those calls were AWFUL.

 :pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :raging: :raging: :raging: :raging:

Yep. Aside from missing calls you can't just change 1 call at the end of the game. It was outside the restricted area so if you change that why not change every other missed call for the game.

I'm the same as you. Wanted CLE to win but it was a great game to watch up to that point. I just hope CLE can recover from that to make it a competitive series.

All that said JR man, WTF???

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Basketball / Re: NBA 2017 - 2018 Season
« on: May 31, 2018, 11:51:05 pm »
The refs fucked this one up. Such a disappointing way to end the game. CLE should be up 1-0

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: May 29, 2018, 10:10:33 pm »
29/05/18

Warm Up

Push Up x 10, Ring Push Up x 10, 10, 8
Inverted Row x 10, 10, 12, 12
Shrimp Squat x 5, 5, 5, 5

Deadlift- bar x 10, 60 x 5, 80 x 3, 100 x 3
Klokov Press- 15kg x 10, 10, 10, 10

Hanging (2 hands)- 20s on/20s off x 3

YTWL- 10s on/10s off x 3 each position

Done.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: May 28, 2018, 05:51:03 am »
Quote from: scoobychau on May 28, 2018, 12:17:54 am
180527 Both me and my girl Finished Dead last

Actually not that bad, we finished dead last in the 100m event only. she did better in the 60m event.

IF only I can redo the 12:53 time, I would be 4th place, but I ran a 13.98 only.  2nd last was 13.58; top 2 is 12:4x

Oh well, is my first time touching a starting block, I actually googled how to use and how to set up a starting block the night before... I also wonder what if the starting block slip etc... lol

I guess trying new thing for the first time at my age is just.... priceless.


and about priceless...
I think what happen to my girl is priceless...
She make me proud with this last place. 
https://youtu.be/gEg4IeT-Owg
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEg4IeT-Owg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEg4IeT-Owg</a>

That's super brave of her to get up and finish the race. Good on her.

And yeah, to what Acole said, what the hell was lane 3 thinking???

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Basketball / Re: NBA 2017 - 2018 Season
« on: May 27, 2018, 07:05:19 pm »
What if a BOS/HOU finals series?

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: May 26, 2018, 07:28:34 pm »
25/05/18

Full Body Session

Usual Warm up

Squats- bar x 10, 60 x 5, 80 x 3, 100 x 1
Ring Push Ups- bw x 5, 5, 5, 5
Inverted Row on rings- bw x 5, 5, 5, 5

Incline DB press- 16 x 10, 10
Prone DB rear delt- 5 x 10, 10
Shrimp Squat- bw x 5, 5
SL Elevated Glute bridge- bw x 10, 10

Tricep push down- 25lbs x 15
Rope cable curl- 15lbs x 15

Quick stretch and done.

26/05/18

Run- 5k @ 6:33/km in 32:46

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: May 24, 2018, 11:22:03 pm »
Quote from: adarqui on May 24, 2018, 12:57:03 pm
Quote from: Final Phenom on May 24, 2018, 12:11:17 am
Quote from: Coges on May 23, 2018, 08:14:44 pm
Played the social netball game last night which in itself wasn't that exciting. Did some jumps after the game though which were pretty good though. Did some SL running dunks with a netball and was easily getting my wrist to the rim. This puts my SLVJ at about 29-30" which is very surprising given the last of training/jumping in recent times. Also makes me think I can get this back up a few inches without too much additional effort (get more jumps in/get more strength in).

You can do dunks with a 30" SL jump?? a netball is like a soccer ball, right? i remember we have the same standing reach and i'm maybe an inch short of dunking with 2-hand grip off 1 leg. interesting how both your and adarq's sl jumps didn't drop off without specific training for it. 38" seems kind of a stretch to me, how would you go about doing that?

for me, probably has to do with all of the SL jumps i've done in my life (via basketball/layups, I was very dedicated from age ~12 to ~22), and how light I am. what's funny though is, my L-SLRVJ is higher now (28 or so probably) without specifically training for it, than when I was say - a high schooler (26 or so), playing basketball every day etc. So I learned & fine tuned those motor patterns back then, but just became stronger later on (during dunk training, and retaining some level of strength afterwards). I think once you teach yourself how to get "very strong" (really pushing your limits), that stuff doesn't just disappear. The mindset/neurological aspect of it remains.

I probably could get to ~30" after a few weeks, maybe ~32" after a few months. 35-37" would take a long time though. Not sure what my L-SLRVJ was at the end of my dunk phase, but it was probably around 37" max, 34-35" avg, which had me landing some solid single leg dunks. Loved the speed aspect of L-SLRVJ, that's why I got addicted to it towards the end. Enjoyed that more than DLRVJ where I felt limited speed-wise.

I think I'm the same. 30+ years of SL jumping for basketball might just have something to do with it.

Haha yes the speed aspect is something I never came to grips with. I still remember Raptor and his insane speed during the approach. If I could get to that without collapsing I'm sure I could add a bit there too.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: May 24, 2018, 11:19:50 pm »
Quote from: maxent on May 24, 2018, 11:15:22 pm
Also they dont seem to agree with me (LBSS et al) but i think it's because they used light weights which need more chronic use to show results. But when i saw the potentiating benefit i was using like a 20kg vest at 75kg. That shit worked like magic for potentiating. I don't really get much if any potentiating benefit from 10kg though :/ Still im not going to get another vest, i went OTT with 20kg last time and it was bad news.

I remember the discussion with T0ddday about it. Like I said I might use it as a last resort but most likely not.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: May 24, 2018, 11:17:41 pm »
Quote from: Final Phenom on May 24, 2018, 03:43:38 pm
dunk with 25"?? whaa. i have to get my wrist a few inches over the rim to get a clean dunk, with a 8'2" standing reach that's like a 31"-32" vert to dunk. but then i cant palm the ball and all my bball dunks are 2 handers.

I've posted this here before but in most of the dunks I'm barely getting to wrist height above the rim. Especially the two hander. The ball I'm using here is heavy AF but is super grippy which made it a lot easier.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUX8hrcLUTE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUX8hrcLUTE</a>

*Edit- I'm still wearing the same shoes btw  :ninja:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: May 24, 2018, 11:02:36 pm »
Quote from: maxent on May 24, 2018, 01:42:14 am
Quote from: Coges on May 24, 2018, 01:32:00 am
Quote from: maxent on May 24, 2018, 01:23:26 am
Peaking might get you there. Weight vest seems to work well for that in addition to all the other tricks

I have a weights vest actually. Up to 15kgs. Wouldn't be able to wear it under my suit during the day though haha.

I dont know if i ever got much out of wearing it all day myself but that's how LBSS and toddday used it. I found if i wear it as potentiating during warmups THEN take it off, now suddenly i can jump higher, yes, but what if foudn was my legs/feet move quicker and i could actually do a dunk at game speed (pickup level defence tho).

Yeah good point. I don't see myself ever just wearing it around but I might do it just prior to jumps to see what effect it has.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: May 24, 2018, 01:32:00 am »
Quote from: maxent on May 24, 2018, 01:23:26 am
Peaking might get you there. Weight vest seems to work well for that in addition to all the other tricks

I have a weights vest actually. Up to 15kgs. Wouldn't be able to wear it under my suit during the day though haha.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: May 24, 2018, 01:31:41 am »
Quote from: maxent on May 24, 2018, 01:09:31 am
Quote from: Coges on May 24, 2018, 01:05:50 am
Quote from: maxent on May 24, 2018, 12:10:05 am
Quote from: Coges on May 24, 2018, 12:05:38 am
I still have thoughts in the back of my mind about getting the jump up and making a return to playing ball just to get some in game dunks. Old dreams die hard.

In game dunks. I dont know what i'd do if i ever got one lol lol. Probably run off the floor and celebrate. The older i get, the slower i get so everything needs to be perfect to setup the conditions for an in-game dunk. It's highly unlikely but if i played on a team where there were 5 good shooters on the floor who can all pass well and the defence wasn't clogging the paint in a 2-3 zone i can see me getting a dunk if i cut and get a good assist. Not sure tho.

I know right? For me a lot of it is being fit enough to be able to dunk in minute 38 as that's when nearly all my opportunities have come. Also, having a dunk mentality where you don't care if you miss. Or an oop. I've had plenty of times where I had the back cut and guys refused to throw it up. That might be the easiest.

I agree though. I'd probably shut down the game myself and run out of the stadium.

so true about minute 38. lol it's those garbage time minutes where the defence stopping giving af and you have the ball inside but ive hit the rim on those dunks attempts, like 3/3. I put a lot of thought into the right setup for my dunking, in-game, think id have to come off the bench so im fresh and everyone else is not, id have to be at the right place, right time ofc. id have to be not doing rim protection on the other end cos that's exhausting. oop would be sick. sigh.

Yep. That might be the name of my new program. Minute 38 haha.
It's purely a fitness thing for me. I was always just too fatigued. I've hit the rim a few times too.
I just think I need a bigger vert to be able to take advantage of the situation when it arises. The perfect storm so to speak.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: May 24, 2018, 01:18:44 am »
Quote from: Final Phenom on May 24, 2018, 12:11:17 am
Quote from: Coges on May 23, 2018, 08:14:44 pm
Played the social netball game last night which in itself wasn't that exciting. Did some jumps after the game though which were pretty good though. Did some SL running dunks with a netball and was easily getting my wrist to the rim. This puts my SLVJ at about 29-30" which is very surprising given the last of training/jumping in recent times. Also makes me think I can get this back up a few inches without too much additional effort (get more jumps in/get more strength in).

You can do dunks with a 30" SL jump?? a netball is like a soccer ball, right? i remember we have the same standing reach and i'm maybe an inch short of dunking with 2-hand grip off 1 leg. interesting how both your and adarq's sl jumps didn't drop off without specific training for it. 38" seems kind of a stretch to me, how would you go about doing that?

Yeah I can probably squeeze a dunk in with a 25" jump. Last night I had a heap of room though and the dunks were easy. Netball is same size as soccer ball I think. I would think you get an extra 2-3" easy when going up with one arm as opposed to two. If I dunk with two hands at that VJ it would be a finger tip dunk at best. Can you do it one handed?
It is strange how the drop is much more significant for double leg jumps. Idk why.

My plan = regain strength in squat and deadlift, single leg and double leg jumps (starting out with box and depth), shit ton of core work, lose 3-4kgs

I had a high forearm touch when dunking about 3 years ago. Yes I'm 3 years older but what I was doing back then wasn't that special. There was no peaking program or anything of that sort. I also think my jumping technique is a 5/10 so I can probably get a 2 inches from addressing that on it's own. 

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: May 24, 2018, 01:05:50 am »
Quote from: maxent on May 24, 2018, 12:10:05 am
Quote from: Coges on May 24, 2018, 12:05:38 am
I still have thoughts in the back of my mind about getting the jump up and making a return to playing ball just to get some in game dunks. Old dreams die hard.

In game dunks. I dont know what i'd do if i ever got one lol lol. Probably run off the floor and celebrate. The older i get, the slower i get so everything needs to be perfect to setup the conditions for an in-game dunk. It's highly unlikely but if i played on a team where there were 5 good shooters on the floor who can all pass well and the defence wasn't clogging the paint in a 2-3 zone i can see me getting a dunk if i cut and get a good assist. Not sure tho.

I know right? For me a lot of it is being fit enough to be able to dunk in minute 38 as that's when nearly all my opportunities have come. Also, having a dunk mentality where you don't care if you miss. Or an oop. I've had plenty of times where I had the back cut and guys refused to throw it up. That might be the easiest.

I agree though. I'd probably shut down the game myself and run out of the stadium.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: May 24, 2018, 12:55:29 am »
Quote from: maxent on May 24, 2018, 12:14:19 am
Quote from: Coges on May 24, 2018, 12:08:00 am
I'm on the push ups bandwagon too. They expose flaws if you have them and can be loaded or made more difficult so easily.

I like it. I need to find someone friendly to put a plate on my back at the gym on chest day. Any other way to make it harder?

You can put the plate on your own back. Just get into a kneeling position and chuck it on there. Requires a bit of practice but isn't too hard.
Heaps of ways to make them harder though. Mainly through hand position (lower towards waist is harder) and then doing them on rings. Then you can start doing archer push ups (one arm out to the side) and even things like pseudo planche push ups. Skip to about 3 mins in this video for the progressions:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvgp8R0fbWg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvgp8R0fbWg</a>

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