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I've had much longer layoffs and I would say don't worry too much because it comes back really quick.  I squatted 365x3 back in Jan 2009.  When I tested my squat again in Jan 2011 I could only get 225x4.  I was unbelievably sore but I recovered and came back and squatted 255x3 my next session and 275x3 then very next session.  After that the doms subsided and I was able to add at least 10-20lbs a session until I worked up to 315x3.  After that progress slowed down substantially. 

But basically I would guess that you will be right up to ~350 within a month after that layoff.  Once you get there you will have to do a little bit of work to get back to 365.   

BTW, I think cleans and snatch evaporates faster than squatting.  And deadlift never ever gets hard.   

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It's not really necessary to compare the numbers of the NBA and NFL players.  NBA players play 82 game long seasons (well prob not this year) on 12 man teams where injury prevention is much more important than standing vertical jump.  The point is not that NFL or NBA players are great athletes in so far as their vertical jump or sprint speed but that the NFL and NBA take attract a large percentage of talented youth who could otherwise go on to find success in athletics or weightlifting.  This is indisputable.  Reggie Bush was a mid 10 100m runner, Nate Robinson was a talented 110 hurdler, Javhid Best ran mid 20.x in the 200m, all in high school.  I ran against some of these guys.  The showed promise, but I guarantee none of them could outperform their high school PR's  today.  That's because the NFL and the NBA don't make you better at running 100m or 200m or hurdling.  They are great athletes because they displayed impressive times at a young age and with limited training.  It's impossible to say which of them would have gone on to world-class performance because you really never know... In athletics some people peak at 18 some people at 36.   

However, it's not a reach by any stretch to say that a great many athletes who are either in the NFL or NBA (or attempting to make pro-careers out of basketball or american football) could have gone on to great careers in athletics.  The US has an incredible amount of ethnic diversity, areas with great weather, lots of money for sports, and well over 300 million people.   If the US had the type of cultural focus on athletics that Caribbean countries have you wouldn't see a country with 2.8 million people (Jamaica) out-representing the US in the 100m and matching in the 200m. 

all true. still doesn't answer the question of why we suck at olympic lifting, although the lack of cultural emphasis is certainly part of it.

I think the reason's the underwhelming performance  in olympic lifting are actually less about overall culture of sport and instead come down to two things: the US olympic weightlifting program, and the parents of american kids.  Olympic lifting is essentially a fringe sport for the entire world.  As I explained above, most of America's best potential athletes focus on American football or basketball.  Most of Jamaica's best athletes focus on athletics.  However, countries which succeed in olympic lifting do not have that same level of cultural focus on weightlifting.  In Bulgaria, Greece, and Iran (all successful at producing weightlifters) most of the best potential athletes focus on soccer.  You could make the argument that the entire world is under performing in weightlifting in comparison to athletics and team sports.  

The fact is weightlifting will always be a fringe sport because of it's technical difficulty.  Children can race or play football or soccer in the schoolyard... But you won't find kid's doing clean and jerk and drop snatches at recess.  To perform well in weightlifting children have to begin at a young age with excellent coaching and resources.  The best comparison to olympic weightlifting is gymnastics.  In the US the sport system usually involves: schoolyard play as a young child, competitive local competition and minor training as a teenager, and more advanced training as a college athlete.  This model does a good job in sports like american football and basketball where the need to develop skills within a team is important and the simple physical development required prevents most athletes from being able to become elite professionals  until they reach an older age.  The model also does not hinder performance in athletics that much because athletics require less time devoted to developing technical prowess and requires a lot of recovery (ie 100m sprinters cannot and should not train 8 hrs a day like gymnasts).  However, this model completely fails when it comes to developing athletes to perform well in individual highly technical sports such as tennis, gymnastics, etc.  Here, the American emphasis on school and college sports simply wastes years for the athlete when they could be focusing 100% on their individual skills for their sport.    

The best way to produce great athletes in a sport like tennis, gymnastics, or weightlifting is to take very young children who show glimpses of athletic potential (or have parents that found success in sport) and have them to train many hours a day every day in their sport.  The sheer technical difficulty of these sports requires that the children have constant coaching rather than hone their skills against each other.  If they train without coaching it will in fact be detrimental as they will develop poor technical skills which will effect them negatively at an older age.  This is why you can find great soccer players perfecting their game in the streets but you will never find young tennis players with one-handed backhands unless they have coaching.   Obviously, the inorganic development required to succeed in these sports means that, given the choice, most children will not voluntarily decide to attempt to be elite gymnasts or weightlifters.  Thus, in a democracy where the state cannot select children to train at specific sports, given the choice, almost all children will choose to play schoolyard team sports like basketball, soccer or football with their friends.  

Why then is the US able to produce competitive gymnasts but not weightlifters?  Well, in a democracy the State will not force the children into the rigorous training... but that doesn't mean the parents won't.   And in the US there are a great many gyms where parents devote long hours to encouraging (ie forcing) their child to perform the necessary training to become a great gymnasts.  That's why most elite American Athletes in these sports have stories about the role of their parents in their development.  For example the Williams Sisters were pushed by their father, Andre Agassi by his father, Shannon Miller's (arguably greatest american female gymnast) mother took her to Russia at age nine to train in gymnastics, etc.  In contrast you don't hear stories about Michael Jordans parents pushing him to be great at basketball.    

So until you have either 1) The govt placing value on american weightlifting and encouraging/forcing young children to do it or 2) significant number of American parents decide they really want a weightlifting champion for a child, the US will continue to under perform other countries.

Point #1 is not going to happen for obvious reasons.   Point #2 is also unlikely because while parents can justify forcing their children into tennis or gymnastics because of the possibility of a college scholarship (a joke, because most kids who earn tennis scholarships had parents who sunk in 10x the cost of their education on expensive tennis training) or possibly money when the child becomes successful... there are no scholarships for weightlifting and almost no money in it's success.  

However, that doesn't mean their still won't be a few crazy parents who want a kid with a 600lb clean and jerk.  Maybe the child of someone from Brozknows will end up the next great weightlifter...  We will have to wait and see.  

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It's not really necessary to compare the numbers of the NBA and NFL players.  NBA players play 82 game long seasons (well prob not this year) on 12 man teams where injury prevention is much more important than standing vertical jump.  The point is not that NFL or NBA players are great athletes in so far as their vertical jump or sprint speed but that the NFL and NBA take attract a large percentage of talented youth who could otherwise go on to find success in athletics or weightlifting.  This is indisputable.  Reggie Bush was a mid 10 100m runner, Nate Robinson was a talented 110 hurdler, Javhid Best ran mid 20.x in the 200m, all in high school.  I ran against some of these guys.  The showed promise, but I guarantee none of them could outperform their high school PR's  today.  That's because the NFL and the NBA don't make you better at running 100m or 200m or hurdling.  They are great athletes because they displayed impressive times at a young age and with limited training.  It's impossible to say which of them would have gone on to world-class performance because you really never know... In athletics some people peak at 18 some people at 36.   

However, it's not a reach by any stretch to say that a great many athletes who are either in the NFL or NBA (or attempting to make pro-careers out of basketball or american football) could have gone on to great careers in athletics.  The US has an incredible amount of ethnic diversity, areas with great weather, lots of money for sports, and well over 300 million people.   If the US had the type of cultural focus on athletics that Caribbean countries have you wouldn't see a country with 2.8 million people (Jamaica) out-representing the US in the 100m and matching in the 200m. 

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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: Any Help Would Be Great
« on: September 14, 2011, 06:11:56 pm »
The reason why you really need to post a picture is:

1) The guy in the other picture is probably much less than 30% bodyfat.
2) At 6' 75kg, it's hard to imagine you are 30% bodyfat. 

This is important because the best advice for you drastically changes depending on your actual bodyfat.  If you are actually 30% bodyfat then you should begin drastic calorie restriction and/or intermittent fasting.  It's also not very important to worry about high fiber or high protien food.  At 30% bodyfat you will be able to lose 99% fat for quite some time pretty much no matter what you do.

However... If you are closer to 15-20% bodyfat, then drastic calorie restriction or IF may lead to the loss of some lean tissue as well as bodyfat.  In this case you should be a little bit more careful to consume adequate amount protein and do some compound lifting so you will lose primarily fat.   

That's why you should post a picture.  Ideally it should be a picture in tights/compression shorts*.

One thing I really don't get on this site is people posting videos asking about their sprint or squat form where they are wearing huge t-shirts and baggy basketball shorts which obscure everything.  I guess that is some part of basketball culture... but seriously people grow up and dress like actual athletes when you want video advice. 

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: weighted vests
« on: September 14, 2011, 06:03:23 pm »
That almost every weighted vest study to show positive benefit uses a light (~<10% bw) vest worn all the time makes me think the adaptation is primarily neuromuscular.   

Ditto, on the danger of increasing tendinitis risk with the increased load.  A good reason to make sure you get really lean before trying anything like this.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: beast
« on: September 12, 2011, 08:36:47 pm »
Read his dispute over prosthetics in wikipedia. It's all well cited, at least from the bits I've read. CAS actually repealed IAAF's ban on him because they didn't present enough evidence to show he had an unfair advantage, especially when weighed against his disadvantages like his slower starts. (In the video you can see he's still behind everyone at around the 150m mark.

doesn't matter. he's NOT RUNNING. what he's doing is a different thing. the fact that his disadvantage in the start might make up for his huge advantage in the upright portion of the race doesn't deny the fact that the blades give him a huge advantage while moving forward at high speed.

plus it's only a matter of time before they come up with blades that eliminate the problems with the start. what, are they gonna calibrate the technology so it meets some random standard for correlation with human speed?

Whether or not you want to consider what he is doing as "running" or not is immaterial to the debate.  The salient point is that blades dramatically change the dynamics of the race.  Pistorius seems to be really passionate about track and field and it's very much a feel good story which gets track and field some more exposure (which it desperately needs).  The CAS decision was purely political. 
This will go on until Oscar (or another para athlete) runs a world leading time or wins a diamond league event.  Only then will the able-bodied athletes federations whose medals and money he is taking point out the litany of differences between running on compressive blades...

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: September 12, 2011, 07:48:30 pm »
darq, im trying to really focus on my single leg jumping now for basketball. lots of situations where I could dunk but I just lay it in because my single leg jumps is far behind my double leg. got my first slam off 1 leg today (posted video in PR thread) but i want to continue to get better at it. since youre focusing more on it lately, do you have any suggestions as to what I should be doing? if i am going to work out two times a week, what do you suggest I do on each day for my single leg in terms of lifts, plyos?

well take it slow, congrats on that pr.. i always go too hard and now i got tendonitis from slrvj'n, in my left knee.. lool

things that help slrvj are single leg pogos, walking lunges/bss, single leg calf raises, and bounding.. as well as squatting etc..

if you got in some bound progression or single leg pogo, squat, lunge or bss, single leg calf raises, etc.. that'd be good.

pc man

How long do you shut it down when you get knee tendinitis?  Do you do anything specifically for prehab to avoid it.  I used to get what I thought was knee tendinitis from track work but since I started dunk practice my knee pain is incomparably bad.  It goes away when I don't play basketball but comes right back when I jump on hardwood. 

shutting it down for dunking -> 1-2 weeks unfortunately.. my left knee is destroyed from the slrvj's, seems like VL tendon, feels so weird..

sucks about your knees man.. ive delt with lots of knee issues over the years so ive learned to work around them, ,but it's damn annoying.. im changing up my training hardcore anyway so, eventually everything will work itself out.

peace man

Daaamn.  1-2 Weeks?  I gave it 4 days but then I was only able to do about 3 jump attempts before that and some newfound achilles tendonitis started giving me problems.   Do you do anything in particular for these injuries besides rest and ice?  I decided I am still just too heavy (~5'10 200) for jumping and will be dieting to 170-180 in the next couple months.  I hope that will help, but in the meantime is there any specific advice to get me ready to jump on a basketball court?  Funny thing is I can bound pretty easily on a mondo track but something about the hardwood really makes things rough. 

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: September 09, 2011, 06:04:54 pm »
darq, im trying to really focus on my single leg jumping now for basketball. lots of situations where I could dunk but I just lay it in because my single leg jumps is far behind my double leg. got my first slam off 1 leg today (posted video in PR thread) but i want to continue to get better at it. since youre focusing more on it lately, do you have any suggestions as to what I should be doing? if i am going to work out two times a week, what do you suggest I do on each day for my single leg in terms of lifts, plyos?

well take it slow, congrats on that pr.. i always go too hard and now i got tendonitis from slrvj'n, in my left knee.. lool

things that help slrvj are single leg pogos, walking lunges/bss, single leg calf raises, and bounding.. as well as squatting etc..

if you got in some bound progression or single leg pogo, squat, lunge or bss, single leg calf raises, etc.. that'd be good.

pc man

How long do you shut it down when you get knee tendinitis?  Do you do anything specifically for prehab to avoid it.  I used to get what I thought was knee tendinitis from track work but since I started dunk practice my knee pain is incomparably bad.  It goes away when I don't play basketball but comes right back when I jump on hardwood. 

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Squatting
« on: September 07, 2011, 08:57:28 pm »
 
Sorry.  Typo on the example.  Assume the athlete is initially a 150 pound athlete squatting 300 pounds and becomes a 200 pound athlete squatting 450 pounds.  

Anyway, the mechanism that makes him slower is the increase in bodyweight.  At max V the squat loses its specificity to the relative strength the athlete needs to exhibit and no longer is a good predictor of performance.  

For comparison we could instead look at vertical jump and three hypothetical athletes.  All three athletes begin at 150lbs with 200 lb bench press, 300 lb squat and 400 lb deadlift.  All three increase their bodyweight to 200 lbs to gain strength in one of the lifts.  Athlete A now bench presses 500 lbs but his squat and deadlift are unchanged.  Athlete B now squats 600 lbs but his bench and deadlift are unchanged.  Athlete C now deadlifts 750 lbs but his squat and bench are unchanged.  Which athlete is mostly likely to have increased his vertical jump?  Most would answer B is most likely and A is least likely and C is somewhere in the middle.  That's because the strength exhibited in the squat (not necessarily the lift itself - A VERY IMPORTANT DISTINCTION) is very specific to vertical jump, while the deadlift is less specific and the bench is the least specific.   Athlete A did gain relative strength (as shown by bench) but most would not expect this to transfer to his vertical jump.  

If you followed the previous example you can think of the relationship of achieving and holding max V and squatting as similar to the relationship between vertical jump and bench press or deadlift.  This is why gaining weight is such a poor idea for sprinters.

The good thing is for clean athletes who don't go on stupid "bulking" diets you usually won't gain much more than 5lbs or so in a year.  So for most non-elite athletes an increase in strength in any compound lift usually has a positive or at worst neutral effect on performance.  When this is really a problem is when an athlete decides the need to "bulk" to gain strength and muscle and eats in excess and gains a large amount of fat, a small amount of muscle, and a moderate amount of strength.  

Thanks again for your thoughts. I understand the reasoning now and want to comment on some of it and what it implicates to me as a layman in terms of track.

From what I understand you are basically saying that top end speed is the biggest determinant of success for a sprinter and at the same time responds the worst to training in general and responds probably not at all to increases in relative squat strength, except maybe for complete beginners, because it is that unspecific. You also give advice that a sprinter should never gain bodyweight because it slows down his maximum velocity. Assuming what was said initially was true for all cases I see no controversy regarding that argument. However it bears one of two implications that I will outline now:

A) If increases in bodyweight, no matter the composition of it, influences a sprinters V max and therefore his overall time that negatively, regardless of the squat specific strength gained in the process, than it logically follows that a decrease in bodyweight would have a positive influence on V max and his overall performance, regardless of squat specific strength lost during that process. UNLESS:

B) You for some reason assume that the bodyweight an athlete has is by some mechanism optimal and an increase OR decrease in bodyweight would both have negative influence.

Which one do you think is the case? If you believe A) is, then why are SOME elite sprinters not even lighter? Is Usain Bolt the lightest he can be at a competition weight of 190 lbs or could he be lighter and therefore [sic] faster? And if B) reflects your opinion, how can this be?


Great reply.  I will answer the A/B question but first I want to make some points to clarify some of those assumptions.  

1) I should have said top end speed is the biggest determinant of success at a high level of track and field.  If sprinters are not well trained they will lack speed endurance so much that this is not necessarily true.  In fact in all sports except track and field (ie American football) what separates a "fast" from a "slow" athlete is acceleration.  You could say that "sport specific speed" is acceleration.  However, to see how this is true in track and field we can look at the all time marks.  Even though the 60m is contested very rarely in comparison to the 100m there are a greater many more athletes who have run within reasonably close to the 60m world record.  For example the high school 60m record is only 0.18 seconds from the 60m mark while the 100m high school record is 0.5 seconds from the mark.  This discrepancy is why an athlete like Justin Gatlin can be meters faster than everyone in the NFL but still not become a great football player (his acceleration is only marginally better).  

2) I should also have been clear about what a beginner is.  By beginner I don't mean someone who does not run fast.  Usain Bolt ran 20.5 seconds as a 6'5 170lb 15 year old.  Unfortunately, that's faster than I have even run, and certainly not a time I would call beginner.  He has since gained about close to 20 pounds and gotten much faster.  So, in this definition he is a beginner.  If you watch his 20.5 second 200m ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7W4kbobqIw ) you see a very weak but very fast athlete.  The gains in strength he made to his upper-body, his back and abs and legs more than offset the additional weight.  This wasn't necessarily increased squat strength but an overall increase in measurable strength.  

Finally, as to whether it's A or B... I believe it's more A.  Provided an athlete has "enough" relative strength to accelerate and hold their max V losing weight will be beneficial.  In fact it's not well known but Usain Bolt actually lost about 10 pounds from 2010 to 2011.  This is why I believe that had it not been for some injuries and an unfortunate false start Bolt was actually in his finest form yet.  His split on the 4x100 was fastest of all time.  If he can stay healthy I believe that the weight he has lost will be very helpful.
Of course the question you are asking is what is "enough" strength.  It's something you can see on the track rather than in the weight room.  For example Bolt does not have enough strength as a 15 year old, but today he does.  Usually, a decent coach can make this assessment pretty quick when watching a track athlete.  Of course, there are general guidelines that are decent suggestions for the weight room.  For example if you can't do 10 pullups or you can't deadlift and squat far more than your bodyweight... You surely do not have enough strength and work in the weight room will help a lot.  However, I hesitate to put a number on it.  

Now, as to why I believe it could be B.  Walter Dix.  When I see an athlete like that I just can't imagine how he couldn't run much much faster if he lost 10-20 pounds.  He carries a lot of muscle and much more fat than most sprinters.  The only explanation I have heard is that we all have variable levels of bodyfat at which our leptin (a very important hormone) secretion is optimal.  Leptin circulates in proportion to bodyfat and is one reason why nobody should aim to have extremely low bodyfat.  When leptin is low you will not recover from training or perform well at all.  So, it's possible that if an athlete like Dix has to carry an additional 10 lbs of bodyfat for adequate leptin secretion then he may as well carry an extra 15 lbs of muscle too to give him the required strength to weight ratios.  Basically your level of leptin secretion will determine the size and strength that you need to be, somethin akin to the idea of finding your "ideal bodyweight".  

*I hope that wraps it up.  You might not believe my explanation for B, but if you do then that is why the advice is:

1) If you are light and strong, never gain weight to get stronger, because you will get slower.  
2) If you are light and weak, get stronger.  Ideally, attempt to do this without adding weight, but if weight is added it will be worth it.  Don't do something stupid and deliberately get fat because you are on a "bulking diet".  
3) If you are heavy and strong:

A) If you are naturally light (ie had you never lifted weights and bulked up you would be skinny) then losing weight will make you faster.  
B) If you are naturally large (ie you have always had much more muscle and fat than average ) then you may not be able to lose weight because you require moderate bodyfat for hormonal regulation.  Make sure never to gain weight to get stronger, but don't cut more weight than you are comfortable with.  

4) If you are heavy and weak: Probably won't make a good sprinter.  








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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Squatting
« on: September 04, 2011, 12:26:13 am »
what about for sprinting>

Depends on whether you mean speed or actual sprinting.  In general increasing your squat will help you more in two-footed standing jumping than it will in running.  Squatting will usually have some carryover to the acceleration phase of sprinting.  For speed relevant to sport (soccer, football, etc) this is about all that matters.  However, for actual sprinting the acceleration phase is a minor part of the race.  Most high level sprint races separate when athletes get the chance to display max velocity.  The problem with this is that if your increases in the squat are combined with increases in bodyweight your maximum velocity may suffer EVEN if your relative strength (as measured by squat to bw) increases.  If you plan on competing as a sprinter... watch out for this.

For a track sprinter, what would you prescribe to improve maximum velocity and how do you explain lower speed despite improved relative strength?

Maximum velocity is by far the hardest quality to train.  It's equal part tendon stiffness and leg strength.  For well trained athletes max V can be improved with overspeed work (pulling, slight downhill runs, etc), lot's of max V work (flying 20s, etc), single leg bounding work, or changes to mechanics. 

It's lower speed despite improved relative strength as measured by the squat.  You see this because the squat becomes a poor measure of strength at maximum velocity.   Even high school sprinters have their fastest 10-meter splits well under a second.  At this speed an athlete must exhibit extremely brief powerful single leg ground contact and the squat does not accurately predict their ability to produce power in this movement.  So basically, if you weigh 150 pounds and squat 300 pounds and run an 11 flat 100m (assume fastest 10m split of 0.9) and you increase your back squat to 400 pounds and your bodyweight to 200 pounds  it's very likely that your 10m split will now be slower.   

Note that this is less true for poorly trained athletes.  If an athlete is running 13.0 seconds in the 100m then their max V may likely simply because they fatigue before they can accelerate to max V.   If this is the case then overdistance work for endurance and increase in relative strength as measured by squat will increase their acceleration, maximum velocity and speed endurance.   

Notice that this is less true for an untrained athlete. 

Thanks for taking the time to answer this. Still, I don't understand your explanation. If an athlete increases his squat / bw ratio through an increase in bw and much larger increase in the squat, which mechanism makes that he is now slower?

i just don't get the ratio he used as in wasn't an increase in relative strength but rather absolute strength

Sorry.  Typo on the example.  Assume the athlete is initially a 150 pound athlete squatting 300 pounds and becomes a 200 pound athlete squatting 450 pounds. 

Anyway, the mechanism that makes him slower is the increase in bodyweight.  At max V the squat loses its specificity to the relative strength the athlete needs to exhibit and no longer is a good predictor of performance. 

For comparison we could instead look at vertical jump and three hypothetical athletes.  All three athletes begin at 150lbs with 200 lb bench press, 300 lb squat and 400 lb deadlift.  All three increase their bodyweight to 200 lbs to gain strength in one of the lifts.  Athlete A now bench presses 500 lbs but his squat and deadlift are unchanged.  Athlete B now squats 600 lbs but his bench and deadlift are unchanged.  Athlete C now deadlifts 750 lbs but his squat and bench are unchanged.  Which athlete is mostly likely to have increased his vertical jump?  Most would answer B is most likely and A is least likely and C is somewhere in the middle.  That's because the strength exhibited in the squat (not necessarily the lift itself - A VERY IMPORTANT DISTINCTION) is very specific to vertical jump, while the deadlift is less specific and the bench is the least specific.   Athlete A did gain relative strength (as shown by bench) but most would not expect this to transfer to his vertical jump. 

If you followed the previous example you can think of the relationship of achieving and holding max V and squatting as similar to the relationship between vertical jump and bench press or deadlift.  This is why gaining weight is such a poor idea for sprinters.

The good thing is for clean athletes who don't go on stupid "bulking" diets you usually won't gain much more than 5lbs or so in a year.  So for most non-elite athletes an increase in strength in any compound lift usually has a positive or at worst neutral effect on performance.  When this is really a problem is when an athlete decides the need to "bulk" to gain strength and muscle and eats in excess and gains a large amount of fat, a small amount of muscle, and a moderate amount of strength. 

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Squatting
« on: September 04, 2011, 12:07:38 am »
idk the times but at track last year, my starts were not so great, but i would end up catching up with everyone else. So i think for now i should only worry about getting my acceleration up. I max 275x1 full depth at 145 but i have a little bit of fat which i am takind care of.

Why cant i gain bw. I want to also get a good upper body physique for the ladies  ;D ;D

I am going to work my way to squatting 295x5 from 200x5 i do now. That way i will have strong legs.
I clean instead of deadlift and i just cleaned 135x3 today and snatched 95x1 also.
WHat do you think about calf raises
NO ghr/reverse hyper...what about a back extension machine



If you want to be successful as a sprinter you need to know your times.  Starts are largely technical.  It's possible that you have poor starts because of technical flaws and you catch up to everyone else because you have superior acceleration.  If you care about track you will care about your Max V because it ends up determining 95% of races.   If you want to be a successful sprinter you should never aim to gain bodyweight.   

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Squatting
« on: September 02, 2011, 04:44:32 pm »
what about for sprinting>

Depends on whether you mean speed or actual sprinting.  In general increasing your squat will help you more in two-footed standing jumping than it will in running.  Squatting will usually have some carryover to the acceleration phase of sprinting.  For speed relevant to sport (soccer, football, etc) this is about all that matters.  However, for actual sprinting the acceleration phase is a minor part of the race.  Most high level sprint races separate when athletes get the chance to display max velocity.  The problem with this is that if your increases in the squat are combined with increases in bodyweight your maximum velocity may suffer EVEN if your relative strength (as measured by squat to bw) increases.  If you plan on competing as a sprinter... watch out for this.

For a track sprinter, what would you prescribe to improve maximum velocity and how do you explain lower speed despite improved relative strength?

what would you advise a sprinter to do then. In my opinion since trac doesn't start until late January, i need to get my acceleration faster because i have good top speed but am bad at the acceleration.  I am naturally lighter and faster then strong, so basic strength work would help me.
But what would you put as main exercises for strength training and for reactive training.

Depends.  How do you know you have a good top speed and poor acceleration?  What is your flying 30m speed?  What is your 20m, 40m, 60m and 100m speed?  What is your bodyweight and current squat max?  Are you running indoor in janruary?  Understand that it never hurts to squat more!  Additionally, you never want to gain bodyweight!  It's just that those who train for vertical jump can often make improvements if the gain a little weight if it comes with a large strength increase.  But, no matter what you train for your goals should always be:  increase your squat, decrease (or maintain) your bw.  If your strength is really underdeveloped then be less strict about the bw goal.   

Assuming you are not highly trained I would put the best exercise for strength training as the squat (all variations) and then the deadlift (a very distant second).  For axillary lifts I would do weighted glute bridges or GHR or reverse hyper.  For explosive lifts I would recommend the hang snatch.  For reactive training you can do bounding, hurdle hops to sprints, standing triple jumps, etc.  Additionally its a good idea to supplement your acceleration work with weighted pulling.  Sled work will help your acceleration by allowing you to more easily transfer those gains your make in the weight room to the track.   

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Squatting
« on: September 02, 2011, 04:36:48 pm »
what about for sprinting>

Depends on whether you mean speed or actual sprinting.  In general increasing your squat will help you more in two-footed standing jumping than it will in running.  Squatting will usually have some carryover to the acceleration phase of sprinting.  For speed relevant to sport (soccer, football, etc) this is about all that matters.  However, for actual sprinting the acceleration phase is a minor part of the race.  Most high level sprint races separate when athletes get the chance to display max velocity.  The problem with this is that if your increases in the squat are combined with increases in bodyweight your maximum velocity may suffer EVEN if your relative strength (as measured by squat to bw) increases.  If you plan on competing as a sprinter... watch out for this.

For a track sprinter, what would you prescribe to improve maximum velocity and how do you explain lower speed despite improved relative strength?

Maximum velocity is by far the hardest quality to train.  It's equal part tendon stiffness and leg strength.  For well trained athletes max V can be improved with overspeed work (pulling, slight downhill runs, etc), lot's of max V work (flying 20s, etc), single leg bounding work, or changes to mechanics. 

It's lower speed despite improved relative strength as measured by the squat.  You see this because the squat becomes a poor measure of strength at maximum velocity.   Even high school sprinters have their fastest 10-meter splits well under a second.  At this speed an athlete must exhibit extremely brief powerful single leg ground contact and the squat does not accurately predict their ability to produce power in this movement.  So basically, if you weigh 150 pounds and squat 300 pounds and run an 11 flat 100m (assume fastest 10m split of 0.9) and you increase your back squat to 400 pounds and your bodyweight to 200 pounds  it's very likely that your 10m split will now be slower.   

Note that this is less true for poorly trained athletes.  If an athlete is running 13.0 seconds in the 100m then their max V may likely simply because they fatigue before they can accelerate to max V.   If this is the case then overdistance work for endurance and increase in relative strength as measured by squat will increase their acceleration, maximum velocity and speed endurance.   

Notice that this is less true for an untrained athlete. 

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Squatting
« on: September 02, 2011, 02:02:12 am »
what about for sprinting>

Depends on whether you mean speed or actual sprinting.  In general increasing your squat will help you more in two-footed standing jumping than it will in running.  Squatting will usually have some carryover to the acceleration phase of sprinting.  For speed relevant to sport (soccer, football, etc) this is about all that matters.  However, for actual sprinting the acceleration phase is a minor part of the race.  Most high level sprint races separate when athletes get the chance to display max velocity.  The problem with this is that if your increases in the squat are combined with increases in bodyweight your maximum velocity may suffer EVEN if your relative strength (as measured by squat to bw) increases.  If you plan on competing as a sprinter... watch out for this.

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« on: August 31, 2011, 01:12:38 pm »
Hi

i owe it to you guys LanceSTS, adarqui for the motivation

Looking to achieve my goals really soon.
will be starting gym soon.

Thanks
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Probably will help you a lot to go to a gym... But I personally love the outdoor lifting.  There is something just awesome about squatting in the backyard!  

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