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yes, it could be any of those things, or any number of other things. go see a doctor.

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Happy new year and late congrats for the awesome 34'' PR !  :headbang:  :ibjumping:

As for the training plan,  looks good and solid for sure. Whatever includes much squatting and jumping will work anyway.
IMO you should give power drills a better chance. Being above 2*BW and rather lean ( fuck you for calling 11% 'fat' ) is strong enough.
On the first phase i would turn one day to 'power day' , better be day 2 , consisting of power cleans/snatches and heavy explosive box squats. That would help your ( lacking? 34 RVJ is low for 2*BW ) RFD and also leave some room for better recovery, resulting awesome jumps at day 3. You would still have 2 more days/week of ME squatting so you could keep driving it up.
Same for 2nd phase. You could do the 2x3 MSEM normally ( full ROM , ME ) and change the 1x6 to 1x8 in a power variation ( speed squats , box squats , explosive halfs , whatever ). Also i would give that 2nd phase some more time, like 2 or 3 weeks.
So after those 2 phases you would have been doing that scheme for 6 or 7 weeks and have a clear idea of how it went. If it worked repeat , if not curse me and proceed to smolov :D

TLDR version :  i mainly want to see how you will respond to power cleans/snatches and explosive box squats.

Just my 2 broscience cents.


thanks vag! i appreciate the thoughts. the friend i was jumping with the other day had a similar suggestion, as have a bunch of people at the gym over the months and years. maybe i should go for that -- what could be the harm? day 2 (wednesday) is actually a good day to do power snatching because that's when i overlap with the oly lifters at my gym. my power snatch is still a hilarious joke, so there's nowhere to go but up, i suppose.

so...

WEEKS 1-4 (power)
Monday: jump + squat 3x5 + upper push/pull 2x8
Wednesday: jump + power snatch + box squat ?x?+ upper push/pull 2x8
Friday/Saturday jump + squat MSEM 2x3 + upper push/pull 2x8

WEEK 5 (deload and test)
Monday: jump + squat easy 3x5 + upper push/pull 2x8
Wednesday: jump + power snatch + speed squat x8 upper push/pull 2x8
Friday: test

never done any box squatting. any recommendations for sets/reps/loading?

for the record, i wasn't calling 11% "fat." i just meant it relatively. maybe i should have said, "slightly less lean than normal."  :D i may not have good jumping genes, but i do have good leanness genes.

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first workout of 2012. happy new year, y'all.


ADD THIS NOTE TO EVERY POST SO YOU KEEP REMEMBERING: JUMP EVERY WORKOUT. IF THERE'S NO SPACE, FIND SPACE.

FOAM ROLL/LACROSSE BALL/SMR AFTER WORKOUTS AND ON REST DAYS.

STANDING QUAD/HAM/CALF/ITB/PEC STRETCHING THROUGHOUT THE DAY, EVERY HOUR OR SO.

KEEP SWEETS TO A MINIMUM. MOAR PROTEIN. MOAR VEGGIES.


BW = 172
SORENESS = hamstrings
ACHES/INJURIES = left toe
FATIGUE = low

- warm up

- one-on-one knockout x12
played to 10 against a friend, got my ass beat. doesn't help that he actually, you know, plays basketball

- jumps x 15
mixed some SLRVJ in there because same friend came out and jumped a bit. he's a single-leg jumper and was amazed at how much higher i get off of two. jumped okay considering legs felt pretty lifeless, mostly around 32.

- MR half tuck x 10(ME),20,20

- squat 5 x 275,275,275

- OHP 8 x 95,85

- stretch

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last workout of 2011


ADD THIS NOTE TO EVERY POST SO YOU KEEP REMEMBERING: JUMP EVERY WORKOUT. IF THERE'S NO SPACE, FIND SPACE.

FOAM ROLL/LACROSSE BALL/SMR AFTER WORKOUTS AND ON REST DAYS.

STANDING QUAD/HAM/CALF/ITB/PEC STRETCHING THROUGHOUT THE DAY, EVERY HOUR OR SO.

KEEP SWEETS TO A MINIMUM. MOAR PROTEIN. MOAR VEGGIES.


BW = ???
SORENESS = none
ACHES/INJURIES = left toe
FATIGUE = low

- warm up

- sprint x 10y,10y

- DSVJ x 5

- 2-step VJ submax x 5

- DLRVJ x ~20
started off really shitty but got progressively better, ended up with most over 31.5, hung on rim a bunch of times. surprised and pleased given that i PR'd two days ago.

- squat 3 x 5 x 260
building back up...

- SS1: RDL 8 x 135
- SS1: pull down 10 x 90
- SS1: OHP 8 x 85
- SS1: decline sit up 10 x bw,bw+10
- SS1 info: 2 rounds

- stretch

i really don't need the RDL or GHR in there, after all.

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THANKS LOOPIE!  :highfive: :D

2011 was an okay year. progress has been pretty damn slow although it picked up over the last few months of the year. traveling doesn't help because of the detraining but it wasn't so much after all -- maybe two months total. i'm still at least 2.5-3 inches away from being able to dunk off a lob. but i set some PR's and i'm stronger and can jump higher now than ever in my life.

i'm a bit fat at the moment, probably 11-12% where i've usually been around 9-10%. i can still see my abs but only in the right light. obviously, i'm still not actually fat by any means. when i look at the other people on here with more or less my profile -- not super athletic naturally but dedicated and patient -- it seems like my best course of action is just to get stronger. that means building my squat while continuing to jump frequently to maintain and improve movement efficiency. it also probably means sucking it up and gaining a bit of weight on purpose. if i got up to 180 over the course of the next 2-3 months while pushing my squat on a relatively high-volume routine like smolov junior (hey dreyth!), then cut 5-6 pounds of fat and was walking around at 175 at 10% bf, instead of 170-172 at 11-12%, i could see a big jump, no pun intended.

TLDR version: here's what i'm thinking for the next two months

WEEKS 1-3
Monday: jump + squat 3x5 + upper push 2x8
Wednesday: jump + squat 3x5 + upper pull 2x8
Friday/Saturday jump + squat 3x5 + upper push/pull 2x8

WEEK 4
Monday: jump + squat MSEM x6, squat 2x8 + upper push 2x8
Wednesday: jump + squat MSEM 2x3 + upper pull 2x8
Friday/Saturday: jump + upper push/pull

WEEK 5-7
MWFS: jump (low intensity OR low volume) + Smolov Junior + upper push OR pull 2x8

WEEK 8
Monday: rest
Wednesday: jump test + squat test
Friday/Saturday: jump + squat easy 3x5 + upper push/pull

weeks 1-3 would start easy (squat's gonna be 3x5x260 today) and i'd try to add as steadily as possible throughout. same obviously goes for smolov junior. jumping will probably take a hit, but that's okay if in the long run it's higher. after week 8 i would reevaluate, especially w/r/t any weight/fat gain.

thoughts, anybody? lance? vag? kingflush? dreyth?

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ADD THIS NOTE TO EVERY POST SO YOU KEEP REMEMBERING: JUMP EVERY WORKOUT. IF THERE'S NO SPACE, FIND SPACE.

FOAM ROLL/LACROSSE BALL/SMR AFTER WORKOUTS AND ON REST DAYS.

STANDING QUAD/HAM/CALF/ITB/PEC STRETCHING THROUGHOUT THE DAY, EVERY HOUR OR SO.

KEEP SWEETS TO A MINIMUM. MOAR PROTEIN. MOAR VEGGIES.


BW = 171.6
SORENESS = none
ACHES/INJURIES = left toe, worst in a long time
FATIGUE = moderate

- warm up

- sprint x 10y,10y

- DSVJ x 3

- DLRVJ x 15
best jumps in a month, most around 32, hung on rim more than ever, had a couple where i got at least part of my palm over the rim. didn't wrap around on those so i'm not 100% sure how high they were but at the very least they're PR ties, so i'm gonna go ahead and say 34" :personal-record: :ibjumping: :personal-record: :ibjumping: :ibjumping:

- squat x 345,345(PR tie),350 :personal-record:
failed so hard on the first set: i psyched myself up too much, breathed too hard and ended up seeing double after i put the weight down. got video of that fail and of the 350, and of my weight. 5 pounds ain't much but i've been doing maintenance work at best for months now, so i'm still pretty pleased. 350/171.6=2.04xbw.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: December 29, 2011, 10:32:05 am »
detraining + family + drinking + great jumps = successful holiday

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Dunk Contest?
« on: December 29, 2011, 09:28:38 am »
I WILL HAVE THE BEST RIM GRAB OF ALL. FUK THE HATERZ!!!!!!1!  :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

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tyler david eckstein wes welker lewis, the great white undersized hope.

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ADD THIS NOTE TO EVERY POST SO YOU KEEP REMEMBERING: JUMP EVERY WORKOUT. IF THERE'S NO SPACE, FIND SPACE.

FOAM ROLL/LACROSSE BALL/SMR AFTER WORKOUTS AND ON REST DAYS.

STANDING QUAD/HAM/CALF/ITB/PEC STRETCHING THROUGHOUT THE DAY, EVERY HOUR OR SO.

KEEP SWEETS TO A MINIMUM. MOAR PROTEIN. MOAR VEGGIES.


BW = ???
SORENESS = none
ACHES/INJURIES = right toe, left forearm after jumps
FATIGUE = low

- warm up

- sprints x 10y,10y

- DSVJ x 4

- DLRVJ x ~15
shit, a couple 32 but mostly 31 and i'm pissed because i felt really good. just couldn't get it together to get good jumps.  >:(

- squat MSEM 6 x 285

- unrack x 365,385

- pull downs 10 x 90,90,90

- DB floor press 10 x 110,110,110

- GHR sit ups 3 x 10

- stretch

so now it's a few days of relaxing and then test next thursday. i'll probably get some kind of activity in and i will stretch but mostly i'm gonna be hanging out with family.

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Program Review / Re: Smolov Tips?
« on: December 23, 2011, 09:59:25 am »
I'm used to doing more than 3x5 everyday. I did 4x5 2 days ago during Smolov and that was only half the workout. If I fail Smolov miserably, go ahead and talk shit. Just at least give me a chance, fuck.

that's not how it works when you ask for advice. i'm not talking shit. but that's the problem, you asked for advice, it was offered to you, and you rejected it out of hand as if you hadn't listened to any of the arguments, because you assumed the responses were personal attacks.

like i said, best of luck with smolov, i hope it works out for you. but given where you are in your training life, i think it's fucking retarded for you to be doing anything but a simple linear program.

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Program Review / Re: Smolov Tips?
« on: December 22, 2011, 09:59:50 am »
By detrimental, I mean it's either going to injure me or not make me improve. If it's going to make me improve, what's the issue? There's no way it could be detrimental if I'm looking for some quick strength. And I honestly don't see 3x5 that challenging at all.


fuck it, you've made your mind up, do whatever the fuck you want. the advice you've been given in this thread is sound and you've completely ignored every bit of it, with the same idiotic argument over and over: "durrr, 3x5 is easy you guys, i'm up for a challenge durrrrrr."

you squat 265 pounds. 3x5 will be plenty hard and plenty challenging if you fucking work hard at it.

godspeed.

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Program Review / Re: Smolov Tips?
« on: December 21, 2011, 07:31:15 pm »
Well, the way I see it is that Smolov was designed to give big gains in a small time frame. Yeah, so was starting strength and whatnot, but I'm up for a real challenge. It's more of a mental test for me as it is a physical test. When I'm done? Maybe I'll do it again? Maybe I'll do something more jump-related.

If by me completing Smolov will be detramental to my training. Speak now. Otherwise, I don't see why you're not encouraging me.

that's exactly what lance and i just said. if you want it spelled out: it will be detrimental to your training.

up for a real challenge? do three sets of five squats three days a week, adding weight as often as you can while maintaining strong form.

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Cutting down to where?
« on: December 21, 2011, 05:36:19 pm »
Just inputed 150 as my 1RM here: http://www.joeskopec.com/smolov.html

For that, I'm supposed to do Friday 7x5x120 and then THE NEXT DAY 10x3x128 ?!?!?!?!?!?!?! :uhhhfacepalm: :uhhhfacepalm: :uhhhfacepalm: :ninja:

And then the next week 7x5x130 AND THEN THE NEXT DAY 10x3x138 ?!?!?!?!?!

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? After 7x5x130 they expect me to do be able to do 10x3x138 the next fucking day? WTF is wrong with these people?

Even with the 1RM set to 140 that's still a lot of "impossible" work there. And then they say "Take a 3 week break from squat work, test your NEW RM, enter it in the box below and continue with the program". 3 week break from squat work? WTF :ninja:

why are you even talking about smolov in a cutting thread?

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THe real argument is - should you try to jump with the weight as if you're jumping in a squat. The toe-to-heel terminology is a bit confusing.

I don't have research whoever asked me for that. I'm merely stating and sharing my opinion. As I mentioned, it would be fun to see research on this, all I have is empirical evidence so far. Furthermore, I did not mean to state it all as fact. But hey if someone really would like to provide research to readily refute this, go ahead I'm all eyes and ears. Has not come forth as of yet

Steven - learn so spell ditto correctly. I'm sorry I offended you you take things like a little bitch does.

strong, strong use of the word "empirical."

perhaps learn to spell "do" correctly when correcting others' spelling.

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