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800m+ Running and/or Conditioning / Re: Misc Running Photos
« on: October 03, 2017, 10:43:12 am »
beautiful shot.
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hey, weird question.. but I think you guys would know. Where are all of the "old Kenyan runners" (let's say 60+ years old). For example, I see tons of photos of older runners in the US, mostly recreational obviously.. but how about Kenyans? I mostly see photos of young guys putting in work, which I understand.. but do people 60+ years old still run often & enter races for fun etc? Or do they have problems running as thy get older, due to all of the mileage they put in when younger? Just wondering if you can provide any insights as to how Kenyan runners, which have the most beautiful form & mindset for running IMHO, function as they get old. Thanks alot!
kenya_experience_iten @andrewdarqui Hey Andrew, great question. In summary the answer is that running is are career choice so when it is done with as a viable career option it is done with all together. Very few former runners continue to run just for fun when their competitive days are finished. In rural Kenya there are very very few who run just for enjoyment or health. It is running ares serious training or not at all. In the cities, the emerging middle classes do run as recreation/fun and you see more of what you have typically described from elsewhere. I expect this will grow as Kenya continues to grow economically but it will be a long time until this idea spreads to the rural areas

^ Yeah I know you're right. I wanted you to know some of my reasoning so i can get even better guidance. I don't doubt your expertise.
Wait so just 9-10 hours avg sleep is a bit too much iyo?








^I would love to squat everyday. In fact I do squat everyday, sometimes just a few reps to some light reps, and other days the heavier.
I think I could squat heavier if I gulped big breath of air in my diaphram on the discension, but I don't do it because I view that as cheating. I actually exhale most the time before discension....
what.. exhale while descending? using air to increase IAP, cheating?
this convo would probably be best in your journal but, that's nuts. kill such thoughts with fire, and do what the best/elites do. absolutely none of them do what you just described. i'm 100% certain kingfish WOULD NOT prescribe exhaling while descending in a squat.
insane.
I guess I am just saving it for a good time to actually gulp big breath of air before discension. I realized that when I do do that it is so much easier than exhaling.Week of Oct. 2
Notes Another week. No strength gains, and no fat losses. Just more time wasted. For some reason there is some ankle joint issue I have developed (the joint right behind the achilles tendon). It may have to do with having severe flat foot and fallen arch. When I twist it a certain way, there is some pain, but it almost never happens during sprinting and even bball.
I got one of my online friends to use strava, to record his running .. he's trying to get down to 140 lb, he's a professional boxer.
His weight one month ago, his current weight & his last 4 weeks of mileage:
- 159 lb.
- 160 lb.
- 12.3, 35.2, 21.4, 16.5
My weight one month ago, my current weight & my last 4 weeks of mileage:
- 155 lb.
- 146 lb.
- 51.3, 50.6, 58.6, 64.5
The point is.. data doesn't lie. Working out to work out is fine, it shouldn't be looked down upon, so all of those people who just want to hit the gym and get in some work to "stay healthy & fit", that's cool. But, when one has goals like yours, you can't just workout to work out.. If week by week goes by and it's the same "no strength gains, no fat loss" etc, then you should try and perhaps re-evaluate. Focus on literally just one thing (fat loss perhaps) and get it done.
There's absolutely no way to not lose fat if you're putting in the work and eating good. Anyone who struggles with this is simply not putting in the work, or if they are putting in the work, gorging on massive amounts of food ... but it's more often the first case.
Also, sucks about the ankle injury.. try not to mess with it too much though, like over stretching it/messing with your ankle. I actually injured my calcaneal ligament way back, by messing around with my ankle mobility.
peace
Yeah I try to have a purpose on each workout, sometimes just squat for blood flow, flexibility, and/or burn kcal. Sometimes obv for strength gain etc. Maybe I need to just suck it up and go for the 4x8 heavy day that I've been putting off for such a long time.
The thing is that for me if i start to eat cleaner and less, i sacrifice sleep. i really don't sleep well if i don't eat a lot of calories. as you can see i get good sleep like 9-10 hrs each day on avg. sometimes i might sleep just 2-3 hr but i make up for it with 15 hour sleep days.


Thinking about cardio. What shud i be doing for fat loss / body comp etc. I have to admit jumprope isnt the answer, i just mess up too much and it's annoying when you can't string together a few longer unbroken sequences of jumps. Don't really fancy treadmill or bike, i can't add any more leg fatigue to my already fatigued legs.. idk. Rowing sucks too.
Thinking about cardio. What shud i be doing for fat loss / body comp etc. I have to admit jumprope isnt the answer, i just mess up too much and it's annoying when you can't string together a few longer unbroken sequences of jumps. Don't really fancy treadmill or bike, i can't add any more leg fatigue to my already fatigued legs.. idk. Rowing sucks too.
If you're a power athlete, the answer to this question is almost always tempo sprints (IMO, of course).
Here's a decent expression of how tempo sprints work: https://www.charliefrancis.com/blogs/news/test
Week of Oct. 2
Notes Another week. No strength gains, and no fat losses. Just more time wasted. For some reason there is some ankle joint issue I have developed (the joint right behind the achilles tendon). It may have to do with having severe flat foot and fallen arch. When I twist it a certain way, there is some pain, but it almost never happens during sprinting and even bball.