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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: October 07, 2017, 09:25:02 am »
complete rest day! 5k race tomorrow morning.

143 today.. would like to wake up around 143/144 or so tomorrow. I definitely don't want to be heavier, that would indicate alot of extra water retention, which i'd be peeing out like crazy because of the "extra nerves".. so 143/144 tomorrow morning would be nice. Need to make sure not to overhydrate & overeat today. Nothing is worse than going to the bathroom non-stop before a race. I just want to feel comfortable lmao. Worst case scenario would be, waking up at like 147-148, and just peeing my brains out every 10 minutes.

I'm pretty sure i'm going to drink one of my large coffee drinks, in addition to eating a quarter watermelon.. the coffee thing has me on the fence, but, it's helped my morning sessions alot lately, since i haven't been in this early morning groove for too long. So, just going to chug it @ 5 AM, ASAP, and eat that watermelon right after.

5 AM wakeup time tomorrow, because I have to leave the house at 6 AM, light warmup and such by 6:30 AM, race at 7 AM.. one of the earlier races. Most start at 7:30.

I won this race last year, so i'd like to win it again.. "Defending Champ!!" lmfao.

As for race strategy, the question is, will there be someone racing who pulls me out of my comfort zone? ie, someone who can run a fast low 5's first mile, and get me all lactic acid'd up for the last 2 miles. Honestly, if the fastest person there is ~5:45+ per mile, I really feel like i'm in the kind of condition to hang, the entire race. I'm really confident in that. I haven't put that kind of effort in for 5k at all since my come back, but my 400m repeat work capacity and my speed in general is way better right now that it was last year. So my race strategy is always to just keep up with the fastest, i'm not changing that, I don't fall back until i'm dying .. but, hoping it's more of a 5:45+ kind of race so I can relax a bit more and not try to survive a death match with myself. If i'm the leader, going to try and just maintain it at 5:55+ pace, but I won't be looking at my watch.

This is the race from last year, the one where I ran an extra 0.2 mi because they screwed me up on where to turn around. Photos from last year's race:





I need some new hardware, lulz. :D



10/07/2017

bw = 143
-  :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf:
bw before bed = ?
soreness = none
aches/injuries = right ankle a little - medial side
- fuqn calf stretches!@$!
morning quad flexibility = loose
morning hamstring flexibility = loose
feel = great

wakeup = 7:30 AM
- slept in a bit

diet:
09:30 AM: 4 eggs x sunny side up, 2 x SF sour dough bread, banana, avocado, sweetened green tea
03:00 PM: coconut water
03:30 PM: workout: light walk
05:00 PM: 5 x grape fruit, 2 x coconut water, avocado
07:00 PM: coconut water, banana
09:00 PM: fried banana in olive oil/salt, 2 x sf sour dough, water with alot of fresh lemon
- so good.



my new white plate .. for taking photos with. LMFAO. :D I mean I ate everything on it afterwards, I just wanted a white plate to take some better shots. I like it already.



stretch:
- bunch of soleus a few times
- some quad
- 09:45 PM: everything light, before bed



workout: light walk
- midway through the walk i took off my shoe and sock, felt like a rock was under my big toe ..
- as i was getting home, very sharp sting
- i think something went into my toe, like a small thorn/picker
- then it happened again ~20 minutes after i was done walking, barefoot.
- WTF.
-  :pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed:



WOW.. A HAIR FROM MY SHAVED HEAD, IMPALED MY TOE. INSANE.





Monthly Tracker: October 2017

October (10) 2017

TODO:
- 10/3
- 10/4

Bodyweight: [(01,147),(02,146),(03,146),(04,145),(05,146),(06,145),(07,143)]
- FORMAT: (day, weight in lbs)

Total Jumps per leg: []
- FORMAT: (day, # of jumps per leg)
- per leg total: 190

Max SLRVJ Touch: []
- FORMAT: (day, touch height in ft'inches")
- L-SLRVJ:
- R-SLRVJ:

Total miles walked: [(2,5.5)]
- FORMAT: (day, miles walked)
- total: 5.5

Total walk time: [(2,01h:30m:00s]
- FORMAT: (day, total walking time in hh:mm:ss)
- total: 01h:30m:00s

Total speed interval distance: [(05,4000m),(05,8400m)]
- FORMAT: (day, total speed interval distance in meters)
- total: 8800m

Max run speed (mph)/pace (min/mi): [(05,11.9,5:03),(05,11.9,5:05)]
- FORMAT: (day, mph max, pace max in minutes per mile)

Total jump rope time: []
- FORMAT: (day, minutes)
- total:

Total jump rope messups: []
- FORMAT: (day, # of mess ups)
- total:

Resting HR: [(2,20,40,35)]
- FORMAT: (day, minutes for this test, average hr, minimum hr)

PR's: []

Races: []

Soreness: [(1,"slightly","calfs slightly - left more so"),(2,"slightly","calfs moderate, quads slightly"),(05,"none"),(06,"none"),(07,"none")]
- FORMAT: (day, overall soreness, specifics)

Aches/Injuries: [(1,"left calf a bit tight"),(2,"none"),(05,"none"),(06,"left calf a little tight"),(07,"right ankle slightly - medial side")]
- FORMAT: (day, specifics)

Morning Quad Flexibility: [(1,"stiff"),(2,"loose"),(05,"loose"),(06,"loose"),(07,"loose")]
- FORMAT: (day, general flexibility)

Morning Hamstring Flexibility:[ [(1,"stiff"),(2,"loose),(05,"loose"),(06,"loose"),(07,"loose")]
- FORMAT: (day, general flexibility)

Wakeup: [(1,6:15AM,7), (2,10:00AM,9),(05,9:00AM,10),(06,6:00AM,7),(07,7:30AM,8.5)]
- FORMAT: (day, wakeup time, hours slept)

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Basketball / Re: Double EastBay on 10ft rim is definitely Doable
« on: October 07, 2017, 08:58:53 am »
Of course basketball is a skill based sport but someone that is 7'0 tall will always have a huge advantage over someone that is 5'6 predominantly on the fact that there are a lot less 70 people on the planet than 5'6 people.

right but you also said:

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The only sports where training>genetics are skill based sports like golf, tennis etc. imo

so someone 5'6 from the philipines should be able to get into the league if he has Mugsy Bogues like skill, no?

again I think throwing genetics into all of this, causes everything to get murky. Sure being taller gives you a better chance of doing something in basketball, it's most often an advantage in a "taller sport". There's also plenty of incredible goofy uncoordinated people who probably wish they were a bit shorter too, that couldn't do anything in basketball, i've seen plenty of them growing up.

fixed:

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The only sports where training>genetics are skill based sports like golf, tennis, basketball, futbol, cricket, hockey, baseball, rugby, ping pong, etc. imo

:ninja:

for all of those sports, training > genetics, but some genetic factors do provide advantages / disadvantages, but it's not a given.

peace

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Basketball / Re: Double EastBay on 10ft rim is definitely Doable
« on: October 07, 2017, 08:26:51 am »
Training > Genetics in skill based sports .. genetics just give people extra advantages, but not enough to overcome training.

Basketball is a skill based sport.

Culture > Genetics in every sport/event, because culture allows a population to more easily find & develop people with incredible genetic advantages.

Genetics>Training

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aKM_OY14AU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aKM_OY14AU</a>

Edit- Depending on the sport just culture is nowhere near enough. Take the Philippines for example. They are obsessed with basketball and it is pretty much their national sport. How many Filo players do you see in the NBA? How many Filo players even play in decent professional leagues? Not many.

Not sure why you linked that video? lmao.. Someone saying, "he's simply not big enough to play in the league", when the kid is 5'11", is not going to convince me of anything.. Correction: he's simply not good enough to play in the league. He could be a child prodigy all he wants, but he wasn't a high school prodigy, nor a college prodigy, and that's when it matters. It looks like he really wants to get into the league though, so maybe he ends up playing in the NBDL at some point and then gets called up.. then what, will they fix the video and say "well he was big enough apparently". lol.

As for Philipinos, I think that's more of a cultural problem. What if more philipinos grew up playing bball in the US? It's their "national sport" now, but it's still new to them. I don't follow Philipino basketball, but do they have some impressive leagues? Are they sending players over to the US/colleges? Or are they just doing everything in house? If they are "all short", then shouldn't they have one of the biggest pools of point guards on the planet? Should be tons of skilled point guards ... I doubt that's the case. I bet many of them grow up playing center, forward, etc at shorter heights. Jamaica can make Hockey their national sport out of nowhere, have everyone playing it, but they won't get anywhere for a long time.

Also, remember when Argentina beat the US in the olympics? Did those Argentinean players have better genetics than than their US opposition?

The league has been steadily bringing in players from Europe and all over the world for several years now. The league is becoming "de-americanified", because there's so many good players all over the world now. That's the result of basketball becoming global, and a bigger pool of people (who bust their ass) to pick from.

Finally, "Mugsy Bogues" and "Earl Boykins" come to mind. It's harder to make it into the league if you're short, which philipinos are shorter on average, but it's absolutely not a restriction. Mugsy is basically a midget and was a dominant force. There's no way someone of similar size, from another country, couldn't emulate his game.

Also one of the best rebounders in the league was Barkley, what was he 6'5? That's like shooting guard height.

I'm just sitting here imagining a Steve Kerr-like philipino player, without much "impressive athleticism" or an impressive "body" based on genetics, but can simply shoot the lights out at a crazy high percentage from anywhere on the court. lol.

btw, there's been a few American/Filipino players in the NBA.

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I know you can list players <6 foot that played in the NBA but the average height in NBA is 6'8 and in most decent leagues throughout the world e.g. NBL, Euro league, CBA etc. they all have a similar average height of around 6'7-6'8. The only sports where training>genetics are skill based sports like golf, tennis etc. imo

Basketball is a skill based sport... some positions require different (arguably less) skills and more height/bulk. If people from some country are all < 6' for some reason, they still have a position in the NBA that has people that height, ie point guards.

If you base it on height, then "there's only been a few players under 5'6 to make it to the NBA & they come from America", that pool is so small that it makes sense it would be harder to join, regardless of country. The pool is bigger for < 6', but still pretty small. The pool for 6'+ is huge, and look what's happening over time, players from all sorts of countries are finding their way into the league and are successful.

The golf/tennis thing is funny though.. pretty much every sport you will list, including basketball, is considered a skill sport. Basketball is definitely less favorable to short people, so if someone is short they have a better chance at making it in other skill sports, but it isn't a fact that they won't be able to make it into the league just because of their height/wing span. Also, you don't see many short people in Tennis or Golf either..

Also just to clarify, I never said just because someone trains hard or does the right training, they will be successful. Incase anyone is thinking that's my stance. I'm saying these people need to also be surrounded by serious competition, ie a culture that supports that event/sport, year after year, and just like species evolution, you get sports evolution. It definitely takes time. Even then, this person might not make it, but their teammate might, or their grandkids might when the competition within their country has evolved more.

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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: The Misc Snack Food Thread
« on: October 06, 2017, 06:38:28 pm »
These are the other "bars" I get from whole foods, pretty good:

https://perfectbar.com/products/peanut-butter/



I usually get the peanut butter one, it's simple and good af.

lots of different flavors though.. this one is really good but just wrecked my stomach a bit koz of the chocolate:

https://perfectbar.com/products/dark-chocolate-chip-peanut-butter-sea-salt/


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800m+ Running and/or Conditioning / Re: Misc Running Videos
« on: October 06, 2017, 05:35:32 pm »
interesting how weak Mo looks with weights. I mean, no matter how light I get, I don't think i'd ever be able to get "weak" again using weights, it's kind of like riding a bike if you've pushed yourself really hard, and figured out how to lift/handle free weights/handle that tension.

Thing is, I was crazy weak when I first started lifting.. I mean, 20 lb db bench press was hard, 85 lb barbell bench press wasn't happening, 95 lb half squat was brutal.. etc.. So I know what it's like to be very thin/light and not be able to handle weights. That's why it's a bit odd, that he's so weak. Unless, you look at it from the perspective of s&c coaches getting him to do some lifts, but rarely pushing him or not requiring him to really push himself, so lifting is done just to help maintain some lean mass AND it's used as a ritual to help give an athlete more confidence.

From that video, I don't expect that he's ever doing anything "advanced" in the weight room to further his running abilities. I guess that's what i'm getting at. I didn't expect he has btw. EDIT: and IMHO that's a good thing.. no super secret fancy stuff, just lots of mileage using better programming. Mo has often talked about lifting really helping him, attributing alot of his success to it. I just don't see that to really be the case, I mean I just doubt it. Probably has more to do with his diet, training programming, training partners, mindset, experience etc.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91TZh72MnZI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91TZh72MnZI</a>



good half squat form





Still, cool footage & he's putting out lots of videos to try and help, so that's awesome. Also you can tell he's lean af.

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Basketball / Re: Double EastBay on 10ft rim is definitely Doable
« on: October 06, 2017, 05:05:40 pm »
anyway i'll stop "defending" it.. but I can't NOT defend it, when it's brought up. It's one of the oldest excuses in the book, to simply say, oh you must be born here or have x skin color. It's also often used as a way to diminish the hard work put in by athletes, by simply saying for example, "he can run fast or jump high because he's black", and on the flip side there's the old "he's smart because he's white" etc. Not saying you are doing that, just saying i've seen/heard it too many times; it also gets passed down & around.

So back to double eastbay, obviously genetics are important, but those genetics are simply the genes that give one more fast twitch fibers, or longer tendons, or a longer wingspan, or more height.. Even with all of that, there are outliers, so as long as someone can get up crazy high, doesn't matter what's actually going on in the minutia, all that matters is that they can get up insanely high & pull off the trick. Usain Bolt was always thought to be too tall for 100m, yet he became the greatest 100m sprinter of all time. 12+ years ago, coaches were laughing at the idea of someone that tall being able to compete in the 100m, so that's why I don't discount someone like T-DUB, even though he's 5'9, who can get up legit 50+ in his prime.

if one sticks to the actual numbers needed, ie all of the stuff you listed except for "West African Descent / race", then there's nothing to defend .. only substance to debate. Much easier thread.

Do you not agree with that btw (the bolded statement)? Just wondering. I imagine you do, but just curious.

peace

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Basketball / Re: Double EastBay on 10ft rim is definitely Doable
« on: October 06, 2017, 04:53:35 pm »
This might be a good example.

Many people attribute an additional "component of success" for Kenyan distance runners & Jamaican sprinters (I use them alot because they are often thought of as genetically special), to running & sprinting barefoot as children and even young adults. Add to that, the fact that there are cultures around running in these countries, and that is alot of barefoot running from a very young age. In addition, you usually hear them talk about running to and from school, barefoot. There is a study which shows that Kenyan runners use better "barefoot mechanics" while in shoes, than other runners.

Now think about what the rest of the world tries to do by emulating that .. As grown adults, we become obsessed with running barefoot and try to incorporate it into our training, even creating "shoes" for it (lmfao).

Many in Kenya & Jamaica do it out of necessity. People in America (and probably China) have more access to appropriate footwear for running. Or, instead of wearing something more appropriate, they do what I did growing up, and ran in big heavy basketball shoes..

Finally, in America & China, if you do have parents who are aware of the potential benefits of learning proper mechanics through barefoot running/sprinting at a young age, they may try and utilize this as a training effect for their child. However, it's not distributed across an entire population like Kenya or Jamaica. So even though you try to give your child an advantage, he or she may simply not respond as good as another child in another village/city.

Alot of athletes from less developed countries who perform so well, are often lumped into "the genetics pool". Well beyond genetics, there's culture AND many of them do it for survival, to try and make a living, become successful, and there's so much competition around them at every age & level of their development etc.

And to add to all of that, for Kenyans, they also run at altitude their entire life. lmao. Want to get way faster, go live in Kenya and run there for years, surrounded by hundreds of people who run 2x/day, like Jake Robertson: instagram.com/jakehtbz/

Imagine if you had to jump 35" to survive. Imagine if everyone around you made a decent living if they jumped 35" from an SVJ, and you saw this from a young age. You really think you'd be jumping < 35"?

TEAM - Together Everyone Achieves More

That's a slogan lots of sports teams use .. that's exactly what happens when something is cultural.

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Basketball / Re: Double EastBay on 10ft rim is definitely Doable
« on: October 06, 2017, 04:04:59 pm »
yeah culture is important, but i wouldn't say it is #1. I'd go with #1 training #2 genetics #3 culture for more athletic based sports than skill based.

For skill and team based sports like soccer, bball, baseball, yeah culture matters a bit more.

I mean the Chinese have a sample of 1.3+ billion people and they want to win in every category, and train kids full time that have the interests, but they can never even qualify for something like the 100m.

However they do great in swimming, gymnastics, weightlifting at the lower classes, and many other sports, but 100m dash, long jump, etc they simply cannot produce a winner. It's not that they don't have hardwork, the tools, the culture, it comes down to genetics here.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K80ZSLygsYo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K80ZSLygsYo</a>

9.99 speed .. hard to produce a winner when 100m sprinting & track in general isn't as popular in China, as it is in Jamaica for example.

China has a big pool to pick from, but it's not in their culture. Jamaican kids are sprinting shortly after they can crawl, and they see their parents sprinting as they are growing up, competitive sprinters are rock stars in Jamaica.

China has had several impressive athletes in short sprints, and the hurdle variations.

Chinese long jumper gets 3rd in long jump @ the 2015 world championships:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0ok_XFmLOU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0ok_XFmLOU</a>

https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/pr-of-china/jianan-wang-270455

China's system also "screens and molds athletes from a young age" .. so someone wanting to be a long jumper, might be "forced" to be a triple jumper, or some other event. That's a big difference between the US & China. Some of those olympic lifters or gymnasts might have actually wanted to be sprinters, and who knows how that would have turned out.

Not sure if, when you say they can't compete or produce a winner or qualify, if you know or not that they have athletes who are competitive in those events.

You mentioned "it comes down to genetics", well yes it does.. but in every population, these genetics exist. Whether or not they are developed from childhood, around others with similar genetics to push them, with national pride, seeing others do what you want to do, with a very strong belief system, is another story. It takes time to build a culture around that.

If Usain Bolt was raised in China for whatever reason, there's a high probability that we would never know about him, especially not in sprinting.

Also remember, diet is also very cultural .. so someone like Usain would be eating alot differently if he grew up in China, Kenya, or America for example. These things also shape athleticism, in combination with all of the other stuff mentioned, as they grow up.

It's just way more complex than "oh genetics".

Imagine Kenyan's with "great genetics" born in the US, focusing on running as they grow up .. would they be as successful, with all of the access to fast food, cheap garbage food, lack of people around them who are as fast or faster, lack of people around them who really know how to run, and all of the external forces making them feel "inadequate" for being so skinny and light? I seriously doubt it.

Also you put "training" as #1, but training is shaped heavily by culture. For example, Kenyan runners dominate long distance but don't lift weights. Americans think weights solve everything, even distance running. Kenyans are proud of being light & thin. Americans skinny shame & fat shame everyone, got to bulk up bro. Those cultural specific ideologies shape training, eating, body image, belief, goals, etc.

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yeah that James White guy might've been able to pull it off if he just focused on dunking, but he was a pro player. I don't know about Tdub because it's really hard for smaller guys to pull it off because 1) smaller hands 2) shorter legs...... u really need to be able to palm the ball well to move it fast in the air and also have the adequate space under your legs to do it quick.

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nice!

https://assets-chicagomarathon-com.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Athlete-Roster-100217.pdf

Kimetto makes his return!

For US folks, I think it will be on NBC @ 7 AM ET.

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The server hosting this VPS crashed, so that's why the forum was down. I think we've been migrated to a new server. Everything is back up.

pc!

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Ah, awesome! Thanks for the feedback  :highfive:

I felt really good at the end of the intervals! Jogging home wasn't much fun, but I could have kept going forever, had to force myself to walk for cooldown. Was actually a pretty easy workout.

I like the long run formula you did today, haha, was going to comment to say as much in your thread.

hah cool!

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Re cues -- the only thing I ever use for myself, other than relax as you say, is to just pay attention to my glutes. Feel like I go a fair bit faster at the same effort when I'm actively using them.

is it sustainable though? or do you want to sustain it - manually active for longer distances? that's the only thing that has me questioning it. i've messed with stuff like that and, I end up discarding it, because it's not something *I* have found to be sustainable for many miles, or at peak performance / competition setting. So, instead of cueing that, i'd probably go the activation route pre-running, or utilize different drills where I focus on that - ie stiff leg shuffling/stiff leg bounds. But then, i'd just let my body do what it does when running.

btw do you know if you go faster or not? in my experience, I actually go slower. I've experimented with it, and when I force extension, my stride frequency ends up dropping slightly and I don't get as much of a stride length increase to compensate/over compensate for it, so my pace ends up actually getting slower, especially as the run goes on.

i'd just verify it with your watch etc, maybe experimenting with some longer intervals of using it vs not using it (~400m), but maybe in separate sessions, not sure.

one of the things you don't want to end up doing is getting a bit more "artificial float" which slows you down, more time in the air without it being beneficial .. ie picture someone next to you who doesn't float, who gets their foot down as you're coming down. So that's just the caution with "forcing something" vs natural mechanics.

i find that "manually activating" pretty much anything messes *me* up.. even manually pumping arms harder, literally. I've gone through manually activating glutes, arms, calves, dorsiflexion, upper back, arch in back, hamstrings, leg swing, recovery leg, knee drive etc.. and i've thrown it all away.. lmfao!

but ya regardless, if it's working that's good.. just make sure it's really working AND it's sustainable for longer distances etc.

peace!

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Basketball / Re: Double EastBay on 10ft rim is definitely Doable
« on: October 06, 2017, 11:24:36 am »
I don't think these pro dunkers can get up over 48" above the ground ON A DUNK ATTEMPT (perhaps on a pure jump), that is why I say base strength matters. I think with good base strength compared to bw, this could push some of these dunkers over 48" on a dunk attempt.

that's one of the biggest factors though, you nailed it.. getting up over 45+ ON A DRIBBLE DUNK ATTEMPT. T-Dub could do it, golden child could do it, James White could do it.. Double eastbay wasn't huge in their era. Double eastbay off lob is way harder than off of a dribble, so someone with all of the skills/flexibility/vert is going to additionally need to get up disgusting off dribble. Separating the two skills, max vert & double eastbay, seems really hard from a motor control point of view.. so someone's going to need to figure out how to dribble up, jump max (45-50), and still transition into the trick attempt to try and land it.

dexton4 is actually someone who does that alot.. he has the right mindset but he's probably too short/too small of a wingspan. He's someone that more dunkers need to learn from; he's able to separate the dunk attempt from the max vert. More dunkers need to figure out how to do that, it's a "new skill" as far as i'm concerned, and it'll definitely advance the dunk game even further once more athletes learn to really separate the two components & then merge them back together in the air to complete the attempt.

athletes like t-dub, reemix, and golden child are also guys who can do that.. dexton just does it on possibly another level, because he actually doesn't care about dunking it most of the time, it seems. He's just a nutcase who loves flying.. that's a good mentality.



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Yeah Jonathan Clark does fit most of these categories and is sort of close to pulling it off, but not really.

I think he still does lack a bit of base strength and might be a bit too upper body heavy. I don't know about his wingspan, flexibility, or ability to palm/control the bball.

I'm not saying a white person can't pull this off, or asian for that matter lol, so long as they can really leap in the high 40s ON A DUNK attempt and have the wingspan/flexibility/coordination etc, but statistically speaking, there is a higher ratio of people of West AFrican descent that fit these categories than other races.

It's not a coincidence that the top sprinters in the world year after year are all those that are of direct West African descent.

it's also not a coincidence that now some of the best jumpers/dunkers in the world are white.. when you shatter stereotypes, more will follow. When I see "white men can't jump" in YT comments now it's so cringe worthy.. I used to think it was true when I was younger. Obviously now I know it's complete bullshit.

And beyond that, top speed sprinting is a "culture" in Jamaica, just like long distance running is a culture in Kenya ... Both are
 "more African", but they both excel at different events. How many Kenyan sprinters do you see? How many Jamaican long distance runners do you see? Culture is more of an influence than anything else. America is incredible because of it's diversity, imagine if everyone in America cared about one sport, event, etc? Imagine if everyone in Iceland cared about marathon running like the Kenyans? Surely you'd see more Icelandic marathon runners, but instead they are into strength events & skiing, skating events, sprint racing on ice skates etc.

Culture is the #1 factor. If you have a culture around an event/sport, you'll have way more competition, and a bigger pool of people to select the best from.

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btw, "relax" is basically the only cue I use anymore.. rarely i'll use "get off the ground faster" and occasionally i'll use this new one I learned from some Kenyan coaching instagram "rear wheel drive" (if I find myself forcing my knees up, prior to that i'd just say "stop forcing your knees up!!") .. but "relax" has been the best cue for me, no matter what i'm doing, if it's slow light runs, fast intervals, fast runs, "relax relax relax.." is always the thing that loosens me up in the midst of it.

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nice!!  :ibjumping:

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06-10-17

Morning BW: 73.4kg

Workout

Jog to park - 1mi in 9:57

Sprint 3 x 15-20m

Jumps - 5 max effort SVJs and 5 max effort RVJs
SVJs felt weak, not surprising given I pushed a heavy squat set yesterday. RVJs felt fucking excellent, though, getting to wrist on backboard. This stumpy unreactive goof should be touching the rim (~31") by the end of the cut+with more jump practice.

Fartleks? Tempo? Idk what you want to call the cardio part of this workout, but here's what I did:

Jog 400m / Run 100m
Jog 300m / Run 100m
Jog 200m / Run 100m
Jog 100m / Run 100m
Jog 100m / Run 100m
Jog 200m / Run 100m
Jog 300m / Run 100m
Jog 400m / Run 100m

Jogs were ~9:30 mile pace, 100s were in 19-21s (so ~5:20-30 mile pace). Slower for the first few reps, faster for the last few.

Jog .75mi home in 8:21, walk the rest.

Notes

I really enjoyed that interval workout. Jogging for the rests is way more fun than walking. I kind of wanted to do a longer run for the workout today, but decided to get to the park and jump first. Came up with the interval thing on the fly and had a lot of fun with it. Adarqui, what do you think of it?

even before you asked what i think, i was going to comment, "good sh*t!!". solid session. I really like it, you hit some good paces on the 100's then backed off and just got in some light running, that's a good formula for where you are at right now.. you could definitely go harder right now, but there's more risk of just getting crazy sore/overdoing it.. so I like that workout alot.

how were you by the end of the interval workout?

as for long runs, you can do something similar to what I did today, maybe once a week for now just to see how you like it.. relaxed pace until drop off. So, you AREG it. For you that looks like you'd be hitting those 9:30-9:45's very light, just relaxing, and keeping the same pace until your body says "no mas" -> you get slower at the same effort level. It's interesting to see how you become slower without any noticeable change in form, effort, etc. This is probably a "safer" technique for getting in some distance work, since you're not "overcoming the fatigue" to maintain your pace, instead you're just maintaining effort and letting the pace become whatever, stopping once a mile/km split becomes outlier slow. IMHO it's really enjoyable too.

also, speed play/fartlek's etc are very solid because to me, it's approaching running more as a skill than some scientific endeavor. To run good, one has to be efficient across a wide variety of paces/distances/rest intervals/etc.. so speed play workouts and such are really effective. As you get better, they just naturally get a bit longer/more intense. These elites do like 20-25km of fartlek's etc hah. Kenyan training is huge on fartlek's, they do them alot, 30s on/30s off, 2 minutes on/30s off etc, in huge groups with people trying to take the lead.. but they dial it back on the rest periods afaik. Same with what I read of Mo Farah's training @ Oregon project, alot of times you see they do like 25 x 200m with 100m jog rest, but that 100m is like the slowest jog you've ever seen. So many different techniques, the key in the end becomes being good at lots of different protocols & really focusing on staying loose & relaxed, even for the speed segments. That's the most impressive thing to me with these elite middle/long distance runners, how relaxed they are while hitting insane paces.

2cents

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